South Africa to take land from white farmers without compensation

[Val the Moofia Boss]

We've known that they were trying to pass this since Spring, but they're now going through with it.




And to anyone who says that this is what should've been done...

The moment you start talking about how people should return "stolen lands", you've suddenly de-legitimatized every single nation on Earth, yours included. Oh yeah, you could take the land that was "stolen" by colonizers and invaders and return them to the people who were previously there... who in turn had killed the people who had lived there before and took their lands, and so on. Under that premise, you're going to punish the children of dead ancestors by taking the land that they've grown up on and have poured their lives into developing and give it to the descendants of the dead people further down the chain who arrived at that land first, who were either wiped out, or whose blood is now mixed with the conquerors who came later. "Native Americans" wouldn't receive "their" land back, most Africans alive today wouldn't receive "their land" back. Punishing people for the sins of their fathers and trying to right a wrong with another wrong that benefits the wrong party? Is that the kind of world you want? Yeah, I thought not.

Land belongs to no one but the person living there.

The current nation of Israel was established in the wake of a British territory, which was established after the British took the land from the Ottomans, who took it from the Egyptians, who took it from the Mongols, who took it from the Crusaders, who took it from the Arabs, who took it from the Byzantines, who took it from the Romans, who took it from the Macedonians, who took it from the Persians, who took it from the Babylonians, who took it from the Israelis, who took it from the Caananites, and so on.

Are you going to kick "white, South African" farmers off of their land and give it to uneducated, "black, South Africans" who may or may not have the skills required to farm and maintain the land, simply because colonialist powers two hundred years ago took the land from the tribes that were there? Oh, but wait, those people were living on land that was stolen from the Khoisan people by the Zulus! Will you return the land to them?

Great Britain? The Normans invaded Britain, which belonged to the Saxons, who killed the Celts, who overthrew their Roman overlords, who took the island over from the Celts. Are you going to give the Britain to the relative few (compared to the people currently living in Britain) with the most amount of trace Celtic DNA?

America? The colonists settled along the coast peacefully, as the Indians had no semblance of "ownership of land". Several decades later, Americans wanted to push past the Appalachian Mountains, resulting in some tribes being paid to move and others fought against. Oh, did I mention that the tribes were killing each other for thousands of years?

We have name for this. It's called racism, where you judge people not by their actions, but by their skin color and the history of their race. Is that what you want to support?

[Machismo]

No, they should not be taking that land, unless they can unequivocally show that the current landowner stole it from someone else.

As for the mentioning of Israel, it is rather ironic, considering they are currently practicing their own version of apartheid, and are also seeking to take even more land from the Palestinians.

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that went so well for mugabe, lol its gonna be zimbabwe v2

[Jonnusthegreat]

Is it truly only because of race or is it because of theft that happened ages ago?

[Raptor With a Saber]

Is it truly only because of race or is it because of theft that happened ages ago?

Race they have said it many times before along with wanting to genocide them. S.A uses whites as a scape goat for everything. Alot in S.A dont want it to happen many of them are fellow farmers and elder they know what happens.

[zebreck]

Land actually belongs to whoever can hold it. This has always been true, and remains true today. The fact that you live in a society that has a state monopoly on the use of force and simultaneously has some rules about how that force aught to be applied has zero bearing on the fundamental truth. If the government of SA decides that's how the land aught to be distributed, then so be it. Their land, their country, their decision. You don't like it? Revolution (democratic or violent are equally effective) or emigrate. The end.

[josykay]

Ohhhh Black Pigeon Speaks.Yeah, i see where that is going.

[ONCHEhap]

Can't wait for SA to ask international aid because they're starving

[Deleted]

Land actually belongs to whoever can hold it. This has always been true, and remains true today.

no it doesnt, look at the annexation of kuwait, it got reversed as soon as it happened, and now the fuss with crimea is the same

[Malaky]

Ohhhh Black Pigeon Speaks.Yeah, i see where that is going.

The guy's arguably pretty great indeed.

[Techno-Druid]

Can we get a source that's not a YouTube video from BPS?

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It appears that @Theodarzna was correct in her prediction.

[Waltar]

Its like people can't read do these people not remember what happened when the soviets did this ? and that shit wasn't even that long ago and to claim its stolen land is hilarious the land was completely abandoned until Europeans brought there irrigation systems to make the land farmable

[Ersula]

We've known that they were trying to pass this since Spring, but they're now going through with it.

South Africa is reappropriating land stolen during apartheid. Everything else BPS says in this video is shit he made up, as usual.

[Rennadrel]

One violation of human rights doesn't justify another. This is walking down the slippery slope at full speed and the slope is covered in ice. It's a good thing that these types won't ever get into power in the west where it could have disastrous effects.

[Rukh]

South Africa is reappropriating land stolen during apartheid. Everything else BPS says in this video is shit he made up, as usual.

Its the same white supremacy propaganda that went around last year. They ignore all context about how the farms got owned by all white people, they ignore that the farm owners are being compensated. It's all to get people angry at nonwhites. Its an attempt to spread hate.

[Revi]

Racist, mismanaged country does something racist and shoots itself in the foot. Shocking.

[lonely zergling]

I'd say arm these guys and let them defend their property against the black aggressors. They should just form their own "white south africa" country anyway.

[Serpha]

Its the same white supremacy propaganda that went around last year. They ignore all context about how the farms got owned by all white people, they ignore that the farm owners are being compensated. It's all to get people angry at nonwhites. Its an attempt to spread hate.

Conspiracy theories aren't allowed here.

[PC2]

It's South Africa's loss. Nobody wants to invest in a country where the government confiscates land without fair compensation.