Wow has become a dollhouse dress up simulator?

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Catch-up mechanisms are mandatory in this day and age. I don't understand the issue.

No they are not.

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You're saying that like it's a bad thing...and then complaining that people aren't oohing and aahing like they used to about your dollhouse dressup clothes that you worked really hard on obtaining.

Not to mention transmog came out in Cataclysm. If that's what you're complaining out you're a tad late to the party.

What? Transmog came out in 7.0 patch during WoD lol.

[Flurryfang]

I definantly feel like Transmog has become way too big of a thing. I personally care little about it, but it seems like many communities have grown up around the concept and Blizzard is heavily incentivizing the value of Transmog, since many of their rewards nowadays are actually transmog items.

Im not sure this is a bad thing, but it most curtainly have changed the game around it and is proberly one of the things that have lead to the current reward structure of WoW.

[fiestatastic]

lol wut. WoW has the worst graphics of any popular game period ... what game out there do you think is less focused on how your character looks? Literally every game I can think of is WAY more focused on character looks than WoW and should be the culprit of your disdain.

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WoW has so few choices for character looks, and it doesn't even matter anyway, it all looks like shit. Super funny that anyone would call WoW out for this specifically.

[qazgosu]

I've been playing wow on and off since 2006. Lately I've been unsubbed for the last 2 months and watching the news posts on wowhead and mmo champion about upcoming 8.1. When I played BC and WOTLK a lot I was a hardcore raider I enjoyed farming the mats, setting up hard heroic dungeon groups and doing raiding with my guild. It all had progression and good feeling going from Kara to SSC TK hyjal BT SW etc. I'm noticing over the last few years that wow for me is starting to feel like just a dollhouse or collection simulator. The current BFA endgame and even legion (minus the class hall story/artifact skins.. that was cool) feels to me like its all pointless. 3-4 months will go by and you'll replace that hard grinded gear with some easy catch up system . There's no more ePeen flexing which was a big part of the game tbh lets be real . Standing on the bridge in IF or showing off in a dungeon was part of the fun of the grind you felt rewarded. No one cares nowadays except how your character transmog looks, or a pretty mount. Don't get me started on the class pruning.

I even tried out a private server for wotlk and BC. While fun for a few hours and definitely feeds the nostalgia beast... it feels fleeting. I know that private server will die off population wise or will have massive bugs so I don't care to invest myself into it and I already experienced that stuff when it was real in the past.

Where did it all go so wrong and why do I feel this way? I'm tempted to resub to wow 8.1 to level up an alt and unlock the blood elf /dwarf heritage armor. I don't even care about the new warfront/vendors or even upcoming raid they added. When I used to care so much about that endgame stuff. Now the only tempting thing to resub for is transmog looks or new mounts? Sweet jesus help me.

Does anyone else feel the same?

Since you are a HC players, you should had observed that blizzard started to help casual players more after BC, Wrath and especially CATA, so you should be
expecting all this stuff.

40man raiding or 25man raiding guilds cannot withstand anymore through time, thats why the flexible raids etc.

Furthermore if you wish to enlarge your ePeen and /flex, achiev points are still here.

Finally, go play something else, try Final Fantasy XIV. Its a great game.

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No they are not.

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What? Transmog came out in 7.0 patch during WoD lol.

Transmogs appeared in 4.3.0, Hours of Twilight.

[Deleted]

To each his own I guess. I much prefer checking out good transmog people come up with than inspecting someone with raid gear and them mistakenly thinking I care about what they "accomplished" to get it or look up to them for it. I literally could not care less and I suspect that goes for most people. The only people who care about the "epeen flexing" are the ones doing it. I do feel like content in general runs its course a bit too quickly nowadays though so I will grant you that much.

True most people in current game do not care becouse there is pretty much nothing in WoW what you can show off. All those people what are saying that people didnt care about others gear back in vannila are just liers or were the ones who never put any effort into the game. People did care lot. Becouse seeing someone in full t3 was super rare and it motivated player to get that stuff.

Why you think compettive games are so popular right now? You think peiple play them just for fun? No every ones want to get high rank to show of their skill level and rewards for that rank. Nobady would care about compettive game without exlusive rewards for high ranked players.

[Super Kami Dende]

Who cares? The less pseudo-elitist narcissists around the better.

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Catch-up mechanisms are mandatory in this day and age. I don't understand the issue.

Catchup Mechanics have been around since Burning Crusade. So I don't know why people are so buttmad about them now.

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Nobady would care about compettive game without exlusive rewards for high ranked players.

WoW still has exclusive rewards for the top tier content finishers. Your point is invalid.

[Lord Pebbleton]

You have that in every game that gives titles. You still have players in wow that flaunt their titles.

I like to flaunt my titles, but I have to admit I have a more personal approach to it now. For example, I like using my Veteran of the Alliance title, because while it's nothing too big, it is to me since I am terrible at PvP but I got it through my hard work. Or my Herald of the Titans because I put an absurd amount of effort in it back in Cata.

To address the OP, you can still flex your epeen in a lot of ways. I don't know about titles anymore, because I had to actually go check what is the source of the "Purifier" title and so wouldn't look in awe at those who have it. But you can most certainly still get compliments for a good transmo.

[Amenofis]

Wearing gear and titles you have doesn't make you look douchey. It's part of the game. Thing is no one cares much anymore and blizzard and grandfather time are to blame for several reasons.

Blurring the lines between servers resulting in no one caring about anything but the top end guilds. Who gives a shit who is getting server firsts on runetotem-us when the top guild on that server is ranked like 2200 or so overall. The lack of any real community creates a system where people start ignoring everyone else.

Now couple that with oversaturation. Everyone is in purples. Everyone has 100's of mounts. Everyone has ridiculous amounts of transmog options and titles. It's hard to care about what's cutting edge when what's cutting edge doesn't stand out.

Pretty much this sums it up for WoW 2018 compared to WoW 2008

I would also add, the game system is also supposedly based on RPG while the RPG elements are watered down quite a bit. Char customization is not only about xmogs. You should be having a wide variety of skills to choose from.

Jumping to another thing, think about having this game with player housing with a server based solid communities. That could have been good but the game took a different turn quite a long time ago.

I dont have much time to elaborate atm but yeah, you get the idea. We do what we do in WoW and get gear and toys as rewards. Only for most of them to sit in the bank.

[fiestatastic]

Who cares? The less pseudo-elitist narcissists around the better.

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Catchup Mechanics have been around since Burning Crusade. So I don't know why people are so buttmad about them now.

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WoW still has exclusive rewards for the top tier content finishers. Your point is invalid.

cosign all of this.

Funny that in 2018 someone still feels like playing a video game is what would validate their real life.

[Eleccybubb]

You have that in every game that gives titles. You still have players in wow that flaunt their titles.

Yeah but it's not as common as it used to be.

[Demithio]

Dont forget mount and pet collecting game. No. really. WoW is a joke, has been for years. Its actually beyond comical if it wasn't so sad what happened to it.

[Super Kami Dende]

Dont forget mount and pet collecting game. No. really. WoW is a joke, has been for years. Its actually beyond comical if it wasn't so sad what happened to it.

People were collecting Mounts and Pets since Vanilla. They just made it easier to do since it used to just fill up your back space instead of having a specific Pet/Mount tab.

It's as if you people complaining about how it was in the "good ol days" never actually played in the old days.

[Eleccybubb]

Dont forget mount and pet collecting game. No. really. WoW is a joke, has been for years. Its actually beyond comical if it wasn't so sad what happened to it.

Because you never collected rare mounts, pets or TCG stuff back then right?

It really hasn't changed much in that regard.

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No they are not.

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What? Transmog came out in 7.0 patch during WoD lol.

Uh. No it didn't.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_4.3.0

New Feature: Transmogrification

This new feature allows players to customize their gear like never before: copying the appearance of one magical item onto another.. You’ll find Transmogrification, Void Storage, and Reforging vendors in Cathedral Square, Stormwind and The Drag, Orgrimmar.

The changes to the appearance tab, account wide transmog and other QoL transmog features came in 7.0.3.

[Demithio]

People were collecting Mounts and Pets since Vanilla. They just made it easier to do since it used to just fill up your back space instead of having a specific Pet/Mount tab.

It's as if you people complaining about how it was in the "good ol days" never actually played in the old days.

Sorry to kill your attempt, but I've been playing since early 2005. Anyway, pets and mounts used to a be a rare and sought after things back in the 'good ol days' (IE there weren't 6000 of them). People used to spend countless hours, days, of even months farming them. Anyone would know that if they were actually there during that time. Now, they just fall from the sky (pokemon pet battles anyone?). Like everything else in the game. It just another example of what not to do with a game design (hint: dont go to extremes). I wont get into any further details with you, as it seems you might be one of those who drank the entire gallon.

[Cayumi]

Plenty of epeen flexing to be done. At the end of legion I was so geared I'd get into mythics for the do 4 M+ for my mythic cache, and pretty much every group I was in would say "holy crap look at this monk" as I did 5x their dps combined. Even in BFA I've seen some comments like that from groups, and I'm not all that geared at the moment...thanks stupid hurricane.

If this is true I would love to play with you!

[Unlimited Power]

I started collecting ever since I got my very first non-combat pet in westfall, the chicken that was only accessible if you knew how to get it

The only difference from then to now is my collection doesn't take up bag space and is account wide, but my goal of collecting just about everything in WoW has never changed.

[Super Kami Dende]

Sorry to kill your attempt, but I've been playing since early 2005. Anyway, pets and mounts used to a be a rare and sought after things back in the 'good ol days' (IE there weren't 6000 of them). People used to spend countless hours, days, of even months farming them. Anyone would know that if they were actually there during that time. Now, they just fall from the sky (pokemon pet battles anyone?). Like everything else in the game. It just another example of what not to do with a game design (hint: dont go to extremes). I wont get into any further details with you, as it seems you might be one of those who drank the entire gallon.

So your entire complaint is they added more of something to collect that people already collected because at one point it was rarer to find them? Seems like an inane complaint. I mean you don't have to go into further detail, because there isn't any further detail except being angry that other people enjoy collecting things.

It would be like a Magic: the Gathering player complaining that there are 20x more cards out now than there were at the beginning.

[Demithio]

So your entire complaint is they added more of something to collect that people already collected because at one point it was rarer to find them? Seems like an inane complaint. I mean you don't have to go into further detail, because there isn't any further detail except being angry that other people enjoy collecting things.

It would be like a Magic: the Gathering player complaining that there are 20x more cards out now than there were at the beginning.

Ok, I'll explain this to you, once. The 'complaint' is that by adding excessive access to them (along with other things in the game), they have very effectively cheapened the value and thus the 'thrill' of that area of the game. Now instead of being sought after and exciting, they are just common and boring. This is in all aspects of the game. Think of it as creating an artificial surplus in the labor market , if that helps.

[Powerogue]

No they are not.

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What? Transmog came out in 7.0 patch during WoD lol.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Transmogrification patch 4.3.

[The Stormbringer]

The previous dress-up simulator was good, because not everyone could have the things.
The current dress-up simulator is bad, because everyone can have the things!

Just... what?