I think it was hbomber who described corbyn as the unelectable politician who keeps getting elected.
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The fact that Tory eurosceptics are mostly disgusting morons without the merest shred of intellect does not mean there aren't serious problems with the EU or its own politicians.
You are basically doing what the eurosceptics do and confuse a problem with political elites in general with a specific political elite.
As an MP, sure. As a PM? The British public seems to disagree. I like Labours pivot to the left, I like their last manifesto, I can even look at his fraternising with known terrorists as a genuine attempt to engage with both sides and find a peaceful resolution. What I don't have time for though is leading the most ineffective opposition in recent memory. This Tory government is a literal clown car, fuck Alistair Campbell and Tony Blair but jesus christ they would have destroyed the Tories in 2017 and would be giving May an experience so humiliating at PMQs the front bench wouldn't bother to turn up.
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Let's not forget that Sammy Wilson once called for the ethnic cleansing of catholics in Northern Ireland. So thats the kind of person we are dealing with here. And no, i don't think he's a typical British politician, for the same reason.
Meeting with IRA members and calling Hezbollah and Hamas friends is certainly enough to put him in that light for me personally, even if he's attempted to spinelessly backtrack from them. Ofcourse I understand if other people would like to just brush all that under the rug, along with the recent rise of antisemitism from Corbyns "party within a party" Momentum (direct quote from a Labour MP).
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And yet he completely failed against one of the most botched General Elections in History, and tried to spin knocking the Tories majority out as a "victory" even though, you know, he lost and the Tories are still in charge.
And even know, with all that May seems to be trying to get herself the sack, Labour barely have a lead in the most recent opinions polls, certainly not enough to comfortably win a majority.
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Ah good old Skinner, must be great knowing that you can completely betray your own voting base and still get voted in because you get to sit on the front bench and hurl abuse at the other side.
You don't seem to understand what happened at the last election. Corbyn wiped out the Tory's majority and came within a % point of winning the popular vote despite the total hostility of the right and "left"-wing media and the attempt by his own party to remove him.
This represented a significant out-performance of the two previous centrist candidates that you seem to think who are so electable, whose clock got cleaned by the one of the worst pm's in British political history known mainly for fucking a dead pig.
Oh and Labour now have the largest party machine in Europe now built out of nothing.
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You are aware there was this thing called the peace process right? Which resulted in the US president, the Prime Minister, the Taoiseach, the Queen (yes the fucking Queen), Prince Charles and Prince Philip also meeting IRA members.
I suppose her majesty is also a terrorist supporting shitbag in your deranged universe.
You seem to be incapable of understanding the British parliamentary process.
A vote of confidence is decided by MP's. That is a different thing from the general election.
It is perfectly possible to believe that you can't win the former while believing you can win the latter, and the betting odds and opinion poll data support that.
No, the conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher was conducting secret talks with them while they were still murdering British citizens.
Do you want to get owned more in this thread than you already have been? I really would be quiet. I know exactly what you are going to say because as I predicted a dozen posts up you are simply regurgitating a Telegraph article (badly). I actually lived in the NI during the relevant period so I know exactly what went on and all the pertinent errors in the conservative party line on this. You are not going to win this one, be silent for your benefit.
I'm not regurgitating any articles, these are things I already knew, don't have to go reading the Torygraph to get my facts.
I live in Yorkshire, and I come from a Coal Mining family, say what you fucking want about Thatcher, my opinion of her couldn't get any worse, the fact that she was doing it doesn't excuse Corbyn one fucking bit.
And yeah mate, i'm sure you did, next you'll be telling us you were actually in the Ra meetings and never heard anything about Corbyn so it can't be true.
As for "owning", you've only failed to refute one my claims about Corbyn being a terrorist sympathiser.
But keep on keeping on burner, i've got a boring night ahead and this is just entertaining to me.
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You see, I hear this said a lot, and unlike what the burner is saying, it might have some merit, my only thought about it is, did Corbyn ever actually do anything for the peace process?