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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Alteiry View Post
    Very cute.


    Peter Kropotkin - The Conquest of Bread (Anarchism)
    Mikhail Bakunin - Statism and Anarchy (Anarchism)
    Pierre-Joseph Proudhon - What is Property? (Anarchism/Mutualism)
    Emile Pouget - Direct Action (Anarchism/Syndicalism)
    Rudolph Rocker - Anarcho-Syndicalism: Theory and Practice (Anarcho-Syndicalism)
    George Orwell - Homage to Catalonia (Democratic Socialism)
    Murray Bookchin - Post-Scarcity Anarchism (Anarchism/Communalism)
    Adam Smith - The Wealth of Nations (Very, very early Market Socialism)
    David Ricardo - On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation (Also very, very early Market Socialism)

    Yes, and these boys too:

    Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels - Das Kapital (Marxian economics, specifically, I don't much care for their halfbaked political ideas)

    Among countless others.
    Yeah, I know, using definitions is "cute". Why use them when you can redefine words to make your arguments?

    "Take the time to sit down and talk with your adversaries. You will learn something, and they will learn something from you. When two enemies are talking, they are not fighting. It's when the talking ceases that the ground becomes fertile for violence. So keep the conversation going."
    ~ Daryl Davis

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Najnaj View Post
    Take away the counter revolutionary rubbish and the same thing can happen anywhere.

    Trumpsters still can not differentiate between a rabid dictatorship and an economic theory I see.

    Explain it for them then. Dont just act high and mighty, actually help.
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  3. #23
    Cuba isn't Communist. They're an authoritarian oligarchy with aspirations to some day magically transform into a utopia of happiness and bliss.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by alzoron View Post
    Cuba isn't Communist. They're an authoritarian oligarchy with aspirations to some day magically transform into a utopia of happiness and bliss.
    Communism requires an authoritarian regime in order to enforce. How else are you going to stop people from trading freely?

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by cronotose View Post
    Communism requires an authoritarian regime in order to enforce. How else are you going to stop people from trading freely?
    Nonsense. Authoritarian regimes are totally the reason we separate ourselves into social classes and oppress each other in the first place. If we were simply left to govern ourselves we'd all be singing songs and holding hands.
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  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Alteiry View Post
    The fatal flaw in the idea of rightwing, capitalist anarchism is the utopian idea that market participants will consistently engage with each other in a moral and honorable way, which has always been patently false throughout history. When there are no regulations to prevent corporations or business entities from screwing each other over, they will actively do so 100% of the time because they stand to make a profit doing so. This is because while capitalists hate poor people and socialists with a vengeance, the only group of people they hate more are other capitalists because unlike the poor people and socialists, the other capitalists are competitors with actual power.
    This was one of the best posts I've ever read, bravo. Might I direct you to a fellow poster, Machismo? His mantra is "free market, limited government, personal freedom" which he touts in virtually every one of his posts in a passive-aggressive way. You say you don't want to get rid of net neutrality, he says "why do you hate free market, it'll fix anything." You say you don't want unlimited immigrations, he says "why do you hate limited government?" Woud you have a chat with him and let him know that his precious "free market" would eat the world alive without the government he hates to control it?
    The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by alzoron View Post
    Cuba isn't Communist. They're an authoritarian oligarchy
    I thought this was the definition of communism? Or at least it is in practice

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarch Vandal View Post
    Using dictionaries to get an understanding of complex political or ideological concepts is a very bad idea. It's like reading a 1 line TLDR of an encyclopedia.

    And well add on top of that that the general publics understanding of non-conformist concepts is already pretty low, distorted and biased.
    No, you use dictionaries to provide a common understanding of what words mean. From there you can now have conversations on complex political or ideological concepts.

    If you don't want to use the same foundation for what the words mean in the first place, then everything else is moot.

    "Take the time to sit down and talk with your adversaries. You will learn something, and they will learn something from you. When two enemies are talking, they are not fighting. It's when the talking ceases that the ground becomes fertile for violence. So keep the conversation going."
    ~ Daryl Davis

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