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    Quote Originally Posted by Humility View Post
    Or potentially ruin someones enjoyment of pvp! Especially in WSG, where it's easier to type in /say to other defenders than to spam the entire group.
    If it even works in BGs already. If that even becomes a problem it's really easy to just turn it off in BGs.

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    As a Roleplayer, who is more neglectad then petbattler by blizzard, i welcome this change for once! I don't like that it has a duration, should have been a perpetual buff you have to refresh only when you click it away... Roleplayer tax.... !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    Funny you mention that, Muffinus stated this item was created in Classic but was never used.
    there are sh8tload of unique items that exist since classic for gm testing, players never use them, doesn't make them should be usable for players

    and they release the item in an exp that has flat out war between alliance and horde - again - instead of faction where we were best friends like legion, this item shouldn't even exist, it f8cked the rpg part totally and raped it without lube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    As a Roleplayer, who is more neglectad then petbattler by blizzard, i welcome this change for once! I don't like that it has a duration, should have been a perpetual buff you have to refresh only when you click it away... Roleplayer tax.... !
    what ? shouldn't u hate it even more ?
    lorewise the reason forsaken don't talk common - even if they understand it - is out of pure hatred to alliance, other races are too young to know common
    except orcs if we go lorewise... in fact orc dialects is too diverse that lore books stated that orc clans communicate using common with each others instead of orcish (yes i'm THAT heavy in lore), so i guess this potion should work for orcs and forsaken only, Goblins of Kezzan or Darkspear Trolls won't make sense if they understand common, a language they never met before their adventures in wow (i know that wc3 made everyone understand each other with hollywood magic of everyone understand english, but that mostly to save us time of how orcs had to sign language with trolls at start or something)
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    Nobody wants this war to drag on. RPers least of all. Except maybe that one guild per RP server that took the name <The 7th Legion>.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    there are sh8tload of unique items that exist since classic for gm testing, players never use them, doesn't make them should be usable for players

    and they release the item in an exp that has flat out war between alliance and horde - again - instead of faction where we were best friends like legion, this item shouldn't even exist, it f8cked the rpg part totally and raped it without lube
    Okay...? I never stated my opinion on the matter, just thought it was a cool fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    there are sh8tload of unique items that exist since classic for gm testing, players never use them, doesn't make them should be usable for players

    and they release the item in an exp that has flat out war between alliance and horde - again - instead of faction where we were best friends like legion, this item shouldn't even exist, it f8cked the rpg part totally and raped it without lube

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    what ? shouldn't u hate it even more ?
    lorewise the reason forsaken don't talk common - even if they understand it - is out of pure hatred to alliance, other races are too young to know common
    except orcs if we go lorewise... in fact orc dialects is too diverse that lore books stated that orc clans communicate using common with each others instead of orcish (yes i'm THAT heavy in lore), so i guess this potion should work for orcs and forsaken only, Goblins of Kezzan or Darkspear Trolls won't make sense if they understand common, a language they never met before their adventures in wow (i know that wc3 made everyone understand each other with hollywood magic of everyone understand english, but that mostly to save us time of how orcs had to sign language with trolls at start or something)
    Just..WTF? So Pandarens are able to learn it and they know each other since a few years, but other races who fight with each other since DECADES are not? Espionage must be extremely low level...Druids probably using sign language..shit, everybody using some form of sign language, afterall in Legion we had SHARED class buildings where every races of the given class were able to attend and..holy crap..speak with vendors..Vendors must be some hyperintelligent language specialists....Fk logic and common sense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cateran View Post
    Just..WTF? So Pandarens are able to learn it and they know each other since a few years, but other races who fight with each other since DECADES are not? Espionage must be extremely low level...Druids probably using sign language..shit, everybody using some form of sign language, afterall in Legion we had SHARED class buildings where every races of the given class were able to attend and..holy crap..speak with vendors..Vendors must be some hyperintelligent language specialists....Fk logic and common sense...
    Those things all happened with interpreters working on site, obviously. It's a very lucrative job in Azeroth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    there are sh8tload of unique items that exist since classic for gm testing, players never use them, doesn't make them should be usable for players

    and they release the item in an exp that has flat out war between alliance and horde - again - instead of faction where we were best friends like legion, this item shouldn't even exist, it f8cked the rpg part totally and raped it without lube

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    what ? shouldn't u hate it even more ?
    lorewise the reason forsaken don't talk common - even if they understand it - is out of pure hatred to alliance, other races are too young to know common
    except orcs if we go lorewise... in fact orc dialects is too diverse that lore books stated that orc clans communicate using common with each others instead of orcish (yes i'm THAT heavy in lore), so i guess this potion should work for orcs and forsaken only, Goblins of Kezzan or Darkspear Trolls won't make sense if they understand common, a language they never met before their adventures in wow (i know that wc3 made everyone understand each other with hollywood magic of everyone understand english, but that mostly to save us time of how orcs had to sign language with trolls at start or something)
    And yet all the major NPCs talk with eachother cross faction, neutral organisations do the same...

    Forsaken do talk Common, how do you think Sylvanas spoke to Anduin & co? Nathanos and Belmont to Tyrande? Forsaken NPCs yelling threats to Alliance players when they attack? You may be heavy into lore, but I pray your sources aren't only Wowwiki, since this is quite a lot of bullshit. Every race can speak Common, Legion pretty much made it necessary to take down the Burning Legion. Some niche factions might not, but that doesn't mean as players you shouldn't be able to.

    Besides, hurling (PG friendly of course) insults to your enemies is a good way to make the war more fun. It's been great in RP, the addon. I'd say I have high hopes for the potion, but sadly the potion doesn't transmit emotes. However, it's not limited to communities, which were a pain to deal with during one of the campaigns, where the communities actually got full during the campaign and several more were made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Classic Fanboy View Post
    Classic can't be released soon enough

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    Crabs have been removed from the game... because if I see another one I’m just going to totally lose it. *sobbing* I’m sorry, I just can’t right now... I just... OK just give me a minute, I’ll be OK..

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    From what it seems, both people have to have it to understand (it doesn't let you speak, just understand). As a roleplayer now I think it's beyond amazing. Last night I was standing in the Underbelly on my Orc with a bunch of Alliance guys chatting with them. I think this is one of the best changes Blizzard has ever done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cateran View Post
    Just..WTF? So Pandarens are able to learn it and they know each other since a few years, but other races who fight with each other since DECADES are not? Espionage must be extremely low level...Druids probably using sign language..shit, everybody using some form of sign language, afterall in Legion we had SHARED class buildings where every races of the given class were able to attend and..holy crap..speak with vendors..Vendors must be some hyperintelligent language specialists....Fk logic and common sense...
    what decades ? orcs are only same race from the 1st and 2nd war that fight alliance, Taurens, Goblins of Kezan, Darkspear Trolls are all races that shouldn't know common, or know it very bad even by now standard, their peaceful interaction (or in case of orcs - being imprisoned in camps) is non-existing with alliance
    pandaren shouldn't know common either, how they do know it is puzzling, but i talk lore not in-game, Goblins shouldn't know orcish either and talk with Thrall as soon they meet him, they literally never set foot outside of Kezan before Cata events, but as i stated earlier, it is mostly simplifying very boring sh8tty process of 2 different languages trying to communicate with each others
    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    And yet all the major NPCs talk with eachother cross faction, neutral organisations do the same...
    leaders != normal ppl, Gallywix is expected to know every language on azeroth surface, same goes for the person picked as representative of any faction, but ur goblin player literally never set foot nor interacted with anyone but goblins like him, how and why would he know common - or orcish - prior to meeting Thrall ? we assume simplifying just for sake of gameplay, the english universal hollywood magic movies, but in-lore ? doubt they walk without translators
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    what decades ? orcs are only same race from the 1st and 2nd war that fight alliance, Taurens, Goblins of Kezan, Darkspear Trolls are all races that shouldn't know common, or know it very bad even by now standard, their peaceful interaction (or in case of orcs - being imprisoned in camps) is non-existing with alliance
    pandaren shouldn't know common either, how they do know it is puzzling, but i talk lore not in-game, Goblins shouldn't know orcish either and talk with Thrall as soon they meet him, they literally never set foot outside of Kezan before Cata events, but as i stated earlier, it is mostly simplifying very boring sh8tty process of 2 different languages trying to communicate with each others

    leaders != normal ppl, Gallywix is expected to know every language on azeroth surface, same goes for the person picked as representative of any faction, but ur goblin player literally never set foot nor interacted with anyone but goblins like him, how and why would he know common - or orcish - prior to meeting Thrall ? we assume simplifying just for sake of gameplay, the english universal hollywood magic movies, but in-lore ? doubt they walk without translators
    What do you mean what decades? Let make year 0 the First War, when the Horde arrived, Second War 4 years later, Third War 20 years later (WC3) WoW starts 25! years later (patch 7.3.5 stated 33 years later) So currently we are around 35-36 years later since the Horde set foot through the Dark Portal....Taurens and trolls has joined in Third War..Roughly 15 years in constant war-temporary alliance with humans and other alliance races....15 fking years...and can`t understand each other...whatever mate...(goblins..natural born traders..if any race then they supposed to understand every damn language on the planet...)
    I never spoke about leaders...I`m talking about Legion, vendors and lore AND ingame events...All the given classes joined under 1 commander..every race...so let say every tauren, dwarf, blood elf, human, draenei paladin under 1 commander....how the hell did they speak with each other? Please enlighten me..Same to mages, druids, rogues, etc....
    "doubt they walk without translators" You do not know too much about high fantasy, do you? That is exactly what happens...have you ever heard the word diplomacy? Do you really think every bloody discuss and agreement was made by the topmost leaders? Really? Do you really think there is no some form of trade between the different factions? No smuggling, no slave trafficing, drugs, illegal goodies? It is a fantasy world (supposed to be) not a barbie fairyland...

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    I'd say I have high hopes for the potion, but sadly the potion doesn't transmit emotes.
    That's a huge bummer. Hopefully they update it to work with emotes too, since that's kind of a big part of roleplaying and a step down from what the addon was able to do.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Classic Fanboy View Post
    Classic can't be released soon enough
    You will still be here whining on the forums about classic instead. I give it 1 month after classic release and forums will be spammed about disappointed people.

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    It was never implemented into the game so why does it matter when the item was created? Keep clutching for them straws

    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    You will still be here whining on the forums about classic instead. I give it 1 month after classic release and forums will be spammed about disappointed people.
    And you'll still be clueless. Your only experience is being catered to as a casual
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    what ? shouldn't u hate it even more ?
    lorewise the reason forsaken don't talk common - even if they understand it - is out of pure hatred to alliance, other races are too young to know common
    except orcs if we go lorewise... in fact orc dialects is too diverse that lore books stated that orc clans communicate using common with each others instead of orcish (yes i'm THAT heavy in lore), so i guess this potion should work for orcs and forsaken only, Goblins of Kezzan or Darkspear Trolls won't make sense if they understand common, a language they never met before their adventures in wow (i know that wc3 made everyone understand each other with hollywood magic of everyone understand english, but that mostly to save us time of how orcs had to sign language with trolls at start or something)
    Forsaken language (aka gutterspeech) is litterally a dialect of common

    It's like if you said that americans don't talk english out of pure hatred of the UK even though it's almost the same language

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    Flaming potion of maternal love: Allows you to learn the opposing faction's players thoughts about your mother for 20 sec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cateran View Post
    What do you mean what decades? Let make year 0 the First War, when the Horde arrived, Second War 4 years later, Third War 20 years later (WC3) WoW starts 25! years later (patch 7.3.5 stated 33 years later) So currently we are around 35-36 years later since the Horde set foot through the Dark Portal....Taurens and trolls has joined in Third War..Roughly 15 years in constant war-temporary alliance with humans and other alliance races....15 fking years...and can`t understand each other...whatever mate...(goblins..natural born traders..if any race then they supposed to understand every damn language on the planet...)
    I never spoke about leaders...I`m talking about Legion, vendors and lore AND ingame events...All the given classes joined under 1 commander..every race...so let say every tauren, dwarf, blood elf, human, draenei paladin under 1 commander....how the hell did they speak with each other? Please enlighten me..Same to mages, druids, rogues, etc....
    "doubt they walk without translators" You do not know too much about high fantasy, do you? That is exactly what happens...have you ever heard the word diplomacy? Do you really think every bloody discuss and agreement was made by the topmost leaders? Really? Do you really think there is no some form of trade between the different factions? No smuggling, no slave trafficing, drugs, illegal goodies? It is a fantasy world (supposed to be) not a barbie fairyland...
    in the 5 f8cking years after darkspear trolls and taurens the only humans they met - if they did - were from Theramore, and Theramore wasn't that interested in dealing with orcs, in fact - as shown lorewise and story books - only jaina shown interest in peace with horde (back then) and Agewyn, anyone else didn't
    as for how everyone talk same language even if they don't understand each other i did say it is simplified for game reasons, no one wants boring discussion, yes i do believe that most ppl don't know language of opposite faction, in-game isn't lore at all, or else the 3 days flying trip from stormwind to karazhan means they were using snail-speed gryphons in The Last Guardian story

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONCHEhap View Post
    Forsaken language (aka gutterspeech) is litterally a dialect of common

    It's like if you said that americans don't talk english out of pure hatred of the UK even though it's almost the same language
    the talk here if they understand or not, not that they talk it
    no gutterspeech is not a dialect of common, ppl who talk common don't and won't understand it, it was used for shady business in old times and forsaken adept it, but nothing about it related to common
    and forsaken understand common, they just flat out won't talk or use it like old racists ppl in european countries who refuse to talk english with tourists

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONCHEhap View Post
    Forsaken language (aka gutterspeech) is litterally a dialect of common

    It's like if you said that americans don't talk english out of pure hatred of the UK even though it's almost the same language
    the talk here if they understand or not, not that they talk it
    no gutterspeech is not a dialect of common, ppl who talk common don't and won't understand it, it was used for shady business in old times and forsaken adept it, but nothing about it related to common
    and forsaken understand common, they just flat out won't talk or use it like old racists ppl in european countries who refuse to talk english with tourists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Elixir of Tongues

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    Frostmourne legendary sword was add in vanilla too with even text 'hail to the king baby' or something similar, yet it was never available to players

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Elixir of Tongues

    Added in patch 1.12.1.6898


    x fucking D
    Frostmourne legendary sword was add in vanilla too with even text 'hail to the king baby' or something similar, yet it was never available to players
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    You will still be here whining on the forums about classic instead. I give it 1 month after classic release and forums will be spammed about disappointed people.
    Would not be surprised at all that would happen, would not surprise me at all because they will find some fault about classic..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    what decades ? orcs are only same race from the 1st and 2nd war that fight alliance, Taurens, Goblins of Kezan, Darkspear Trolls are all races that shouldn't know common, or know it very bad even by now standard, their peaceful interaction (or in case of orcs - being imprisoned in camps) is non-existing with alliance
    pandaren shouldn't know common either, how they do know it is puzzling, but i talk lore not in-game, Goblins shouldn't know orcish either and talk with Thrall as soon they meet him, they literally never set foot outside of Kezan before Cata events, but as i stated earlier, it is mostly simplifying very boring sh8tty process of 2 different languages trying to communicate with each others

    leaders != normal ppl, Gallywix is expected to know every language on azeroth surface, same goes for the person picked as representative of any faction, but ur goblin player literally never set foot nor interacted with anyone but goblins like him, how and why would he know common - or orcish - prior to meeting Thrall ? we assume simplifying just for sake of gameplay, the english universal hollywood magic movies, but in-lore ? doubt they walk without translators
    And yet the person buying the potions is the Player Character, who has slain Argus, downed dragons, vanquished Old Gods etcetera, high chance he's able to speak to other major NPCs as well considering he is a leader, not your run-of-the-mill farmer.

    Who you choose to RP differs from who the PC is, and you can choose to RP someone who has a reason to speak other languages. And still, considering there are minor NPCs (eg, random Deathstalkers, Sentinels and so on) who yell insults or battle cries at you in a commonly-understood language, you would assume it's also normal people who know the language.

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