Content is too Slow

[Jinpachi]

If you really continue to play game just for this kinda of stuff i sugest you therapist. Playing to farm visual and most useless items in the game for sake of filling bars is not compelling gameplay. Yes it would be different if mounts, pets, achievements, etc actualy had any sort of value. Look how many mounts and other rewards of this type current game have. You really think people will care about anoyher collected mount when they alredy own 300+ of them? I still remeber how seeing Ahes of Alar was something special to see. Now nobady gives **** becouse every medicore joe have thia mount.

There needs to be an economy based around those items. Let crafters be the ones to make the Tmog armor/weapon sets, and have a tamer profession for the mounts, and make them sellable. That may spur more interaction with the old content. and have a toggle for scaleable content on old raids/dungeons

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meh. the premis of BfA is fair enough. Alliance VS Horde. Cool enough consept.

What im annoyd with is answering why we fight eachother, and what this azerite thing really is. Its just been "hey we found something that blows shit up really good, we gotta get it before the horde". Then we find this azerite pretty much everywhere and there never really is any "conflict" about these resources. Both factions just farm it to death.

The whole "why" on why this war started to begin with is at best vague. Hopefully we sit with clear and good answers at the end.

LIke why does Sylvanas burn the world tree? Why does she suddenly go after the night elfs? Military reasons? Just bored? Gone full bat mental crazy? Horde pride? Mad at the boy king?

maybe there's an old god buried in that tree that the nelves didn't know about

[Jasperboy]

Gating, gating, and more gating. No news, no updates, nothing.

The story is being dragged out so much even DBZ is put to shame. Just what the fuck Blizz??

We still don't know what in the fuck Sylv-Anus is about, what will happen to Saurfang. Nothing. I'm sick and tired of waiting already.

So you just want 8.3.5 to hit now so u can get done with the storyline, sit for 20 (ish) months and come back here next week and complain about content drought? 10/10 Logic my friend.

As someone commented earlier, I guess you're 8/8 mythic, ilvl 395+, neck level 40+, honor level 500. I can continue with this for a long time, but you get it right?


It will be paced as it was in Legion, deal with it.

[Necroxis]

if they didn't gate it and let you finish it immediately you would still complain about having nothing to do. have some patience! the new raid will be out soon, then patch 7.2 is probably a couple of months after that

So you just want 8.3.5 to hit now so u can get done with the storyline, sit for 20 (ish) months and come back here next week and complain about content drought? 10/10 Logic my friend.

God I hate this strawman. You don't get to pretend you're making an argument when you're insisting a subjective hypothetical is true of somebody you know jack shit about.

Plenty of us, pre-WoD (When this garbage became a main part of the end-game) did all the content and were...content.

As someone commented earlier, I guess you're 8/8 mythic, ilvl 395+, neck level 40+, honor level 500. I can continue with this for a long time, but you get it right?

That's not how this works, sorry.

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So when you read a book, do you jump right to the end?

You don't get 10 chapters into a book and then are forced to stop because the publisher didn't release a full novel. Its the difference between reading a book in a series and reading the entire series. Its fine if you finish a book in the Harry Potter series, for example when those were still coming out, and you needed to wait for a few months before the next one comes out.

Now with "seasons" and time gates, its as if you're reading The Order of the Phoenix and only the first third of the book gets published and you're forced to wait before you get the 2nd third and the final third. Which also don't come out together.

[Mayia]

Gating, gating, and more gating. No news, no updates, nothing.

The story is being dragged out so much even DBZ is put to shame. Just what the fuck Blizz??

We still don't know what in the fuck Sylv-Anus is about, what will happen to Saurfang. Nothing. I'm sick and tired of waiting already.

problem is we've put out all the fires and don't really have anything on-going to with with or a clear benefit to playing alts to replay the story differently, used to be because content was hard you had a load ready for the casual peeps, and the above average were using their time to farm for the mats to do the current content.

I'm not sure what an online always, always hungry playerbase could really use to substain them, no mmo patch cycle will fill 100% of your time, it used to be what you made of it, so scale back leveling make gearing much harder put a 20 minute wait timer to put groups together and make dungeons three times as long...

[Krastyn]

So you just want 8.3.5 to hit now so u can get done with the storyline, sit for 20 (ish) months and come back here next week and complain about content drought? 10/10 Logic my friend.

As someone commented earlier, I guess you're 8/8 mythic, ilvl 395+, neck level 40+, honor level 500. I can continue with this for a long time, but you get it right?


It will be paced as it was in Legion, deal with it.

I don't understand why people want to give MMO's an easier pass than non-MMO's, the raid or die mentality, and that time sinks are somehow indicative of good game play.

It's why for the last 4 expansions I haven't maintained a constant sub. Paying $180/year plus xpac costs just doesn't hold the value anymore. I used to care about achievements but with each passing expansion there are more achievements that are broken and either unobtainable, or reasonably unobtainable.

Farming pets? I do that, but constantly battling RNG gets old really fast. At this point I'm basically buying a monthly loot box.

Raiding? Do on occasion, but Running normal->Heroic->Mythic? Gating. When I play a game like Dragon Age, I can just throw the difficulty to max and play through it once and be done.

8.1 took a day to go through the added "story", and that's being generous.

[MrLachyG]

Which expansion do you live in?

major patches come out every few months..... look at Legion - launch in July, 7.1 was October i think then 7.1.5 was January (coinciding with the Nighthold Raid) and 7.2 was March

BfA launch was middle of August, 8.1 was start of December. 8.1.5 will probably come at the launch of the raid or very shortly afterward and then a couple of months later 8.2 will hit

[Muajin76]

Maybe while you're waiting on the gated story and new raid, you can hunt for xmogs or stuff that you missed. Lvl a new alt, make friends and do stuff with maybe. OR you can take time out from the game and do stuff irl, go on a date or two, unplug...see a movie or something.

[Super Kami Dende]

You don't get 10 chapters into a book and then are forced to stop because the publisher didn't release a full novel. Its the difference between reading a book in a series and reading the entire series. Its fine if you finish a book in the Harry Potter series, for example when those were still coming out, and you needed to wait for a few months before the next one comes out.

Now with "seasons" and time gates, its as if you're reading The Order of the Phoenix and only the first third of the book gets published and you're forced to wait before you get the 2nd third and the final third. Which also don't come out together.

MMO's have literally been doing this for more than 2 decades. People complaining about it now like its a new thing are just looking for things to complain about.

Let me guess, before Netflix did you used to complain about having to wait a week between new episodes of TV series?

[Berndorf]

People are too impatient nowadays. I remember when a good plot took YEARS to finish.

George RR Martin agrees with you. People are so impatient these days who expect plots to resolve in only a few years. A plot that takes 10 years to reveal itself, now that is a plot!

[huehuehue]

MMO's have literally been doing this for more than 2 decades. People complaining about it now like its a new thing are just looking for things to complain about.

Let me guess, before Netflix did you used to complain about having to wait a week between new episodes of TV series?

doesn't make it any less shit

[Yizu]

I finished everything that's relevant to me at the moment, and I'm talking about the story content - to experience the next chapter already.
I want to know what all this BfA war is really about - and how the old gods will tie into this.

LUL playing wow for story content

[Stardrift]

It's redundant no matter how we slice it.
Cata had a healthy mix of conflict put into as well, but focusing only on the faction war is too little to build an expansion upon.
We need a central figure - a true enemy to appear soon, because infighting against ourselves is getting old fast.

Too little? It's being used to build up to the Old Gods. We know what's coming.

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Content isn't slow - our society has no patience anymore and is quickly tired of everything nowadays.

It's pretty slow for something you gotta pay $15 a month for. That moneys going somewhere and definitely not much of it is going back into the game.

[Lazuli]

And those were awful times. Up until MoP anyways. The story was 2 dimensional with no mystery, no tension (other than the straining tension to finally kill the big bad), no drama.

We have a specific goal right now in BFA and very much so know what we are fighting for.

The faction war has finally come to a climax at the hands of many events leading up to it all. (I'm still baffled to this day why people still think the war happened for no reason.)

With Genn vs Sylvanas at Gilneas (and stormheim) the Horde being blamed for the death of Varian and many Alliance soldiers, Garrosh's actions against Theramore as well as what the Horde did to the Kul'tirans' leader years back, and many many more.

Tensions are high and we all know why we're fighting. And to deny that just shows how desperate someone is to bitch and cry about anything.

Sylvanas starting a war literally moments after defeating the legion definitely isn't 2 dimensional or lacking of mystery I agree. It's 10/10 story telling.

I just hope they gate this content longer, there is so much to do in BfA like island expeditions and sometimes there's even warfronts if they happen to be up. Hell we even have mythic dungeons which we've all probably only done a few hundred times so there's plenty more where that came from thankfully. Slap an entire raid on top of that and oh boy every week it's like I'm being suffocated with content I tell ya!

Gods forbid someone wanted a little more story before the first quarter of 2019 xD

[Zequill]

Story advancement... in WoW. Are you sure you took the good game? The story, outside of the zone specif story line, is always absent

[clevin]

I've been around since the original beta before Vanillas released (I miss riding on my black, unsaddled raptor). Anyway, the fact about this is that I have evolved and aged since those days. When WoW came out I was 25. I'm 40. My life and what I find fun have not stagnated (perhaps yours has), but I require more for my money and I play very differently now. The old DKP Molten Core runs I used to spend hours and months doing every week, are not even close to viable or fun to me anymore. In fact, I no longer raid at all. I am 100% gold buying casual these days. And, back then I would never have even imagined myself cutting my 6 month at a time subscription, but now days, it's almost mandatory for me to come and go as they add things I want to do, or don't, causing me to come and go. (And vicariously causing my money to come and go with me!)

I actually do the same thing. I'm unsubbed now, might pop in once the raid is out on LFR for month, then again in 8.2.

It's just that we used to have to wait much longer between releases of content so complaining about 3 months is just... cute.

[Necroxis]

MMO's have literally been doing this for more than 2 decades. People complaining about it now like its a new thing are just looking for things to complain about.

Another strawman. Nobody is talking about the natural time gating of major patches or expansions due to the sheer limitations of programming and art development that game making takes.

WoW has only recently begun doing gated content WITHIN the patch itself. BfA has taken it to the extreme with a single patch having "seasons" in order to divide the already small amount of content into two parts.

[Saverem]

Are you really complaining there is nothing to do? I can't see your armory, but unless you have close to every mount, every achievement, honor level 500 and 390ilvl, then, get to work, there is A LOT to do.

That's not really fair though. Not everyone enjoy mount/pet/achievement collecting. Some only play the game for specific reasons, very few people are Asmongolds that do everything. To many, once raiding or PvP has gotten stale, they get bored and move on to other games before the next season.

[WhiteEagle888]

Too little? It's being used to build up to the Old Gods. We know what's coming.

The buildup itself should take significantly less time precisely because there is no point in making ourselves weaker when we know what's coming.
The new Blizzcon was so weak on WoW advancement it was painful to watch.

No real story details, We knew about naga a year ago already, even the fucking Zandalari trolls were revealed in 2017 to be playable and they are still not in the game yet.
The story is so fucking slow that a snail can crawl around the Earth by the time something happens.

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George RR Martin agrees with you. People are so impatient these days who expect plots to resolve in only a few years. A plot that takes 10 years to reveal itself, now that is a plot!

[babyback]

If you want to play a game for its story I recommend to play a singleplayer game and not an mmorpg.

[LifeIsASimulation]

I don't think Blizzard cares anymore.