BfA is fine because...

[Raetary]

there are no filler expansions.
this isnt a filler expansion.
mop, wod and legion weren't filler expansions either.

[Orby]

I think this is the worst expansion we've had by a very large margin. There is nothing I like about this expansion outside of a single character and so much I dislike. Outside of playing with my sick mother, I don't even log in. I don't care to play this and if she didn't need escapism, I wouldn't touch it.

If it wasnt for your sick mother (to which I send my best wishes), I honestly think you should unsub.

I think when a game becomes to a point where there is nothing redeemable about it, you are done, you shouldn't be playing. Video games are to be enjoyed. And hating very aspect of a game is pretty much a 'get the hell out of there' sign.

I myself have many issues with the game thats not all down to BfA is more built up over the years, but I still enjoy it enough to keep playing. While I do hate some aspects I still enjoy a lot more.

[Interim]

It isnt 'fine' but it isn't the disaster people are claiming either. It's a very middle of the road expansion. It most certainly isn't as bad as WoD, as much as people want it to be, anyone thinking it is must be hype extending. So far very average. :P

i found wod way better in nearly every way. go figure.

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If it wasnt for your sick mother (to which I send my best wishes), I honestly think you should unsub.

I think when a game becomes to a point where there is nothing redeemable about it, you are done, you shouldn't be playing. Video games are to be enjoyed. And hating very aspect of a game is pretty much a 'get the hell out of there' sign.

I myself have many issues with the game thats not all down to BfA is more built up over the years, but I still enjoy it enough to keep playing. While I do hate some aspects I still enjoy a lot more.

this has some truth to it. Ive saw current wow becoming a thing slowly over time, and my issues have built and built with the direction. BFA just sped it up from a long slow list of changes to a huge leap. Still, i love the people i play with - and thats the single solitary thing that keeps me here. For now..

[Orby]

i found wod way better in nearly every way. go figure.

Each to their own, I found Cata worse than WoD personally. But the general consensus says we are both wrong. I think when more expansions come out there is going to be more variety in what our personal worst or best expansions are.

[Keihndeth]

... filler expansions don't exist.

[schwarzkopf]

It is a filler expansion just like WoD. People will deny this until 8.0 comes out.

8.0 came out, so now reality can come back - BfA is a full blown expansion with a couple of minor issues.

[Thelyron]

When did you start playing, in WoD? Legion was the best state the game ever was? Delusion or trolling?

Burning Crusade is when i started to really play, after only having tested the game on a friends account during vanilla.

[Zka]

There's no such thing as a filler expansion. Filler expansion is a garbage expression used by whiners who can't even form a coherent argument about their problem with the game besides being burnt out by it.

[Tradu]

At this point, every expansion has been called that. WoD was. Mists was. Legion even was, at first.

"Filler expansion" is meaningless. Every expansion is just an expansion.

Pretty much this. Filler expansions don't exist, there's just varying levels of expansion quality due to design decisions made. "Filler expansion" just gives you an easy way of pretending an expansion was intended to be bad/not great from the beginning, which is giving Blizzard too much credit(and a shitty defense for them).

[Willhouse]

...ppl are too lazy to do content and cry too much.

[DisposableHero]

Pro-tip: If you feel compelled to defend a product from haters, it is not a good product. Good products stand on their own merit and all you have to tell anyone about it is to try it for themselves.

[Kralljin]

8.0 came out, so now reality can come back - BfA is a full blown expansion with a couple of minor issues.

Minor understatement.

[Unholyground]

I already stuck it to Blizzard by playing on a private server, until they get their shit together and make every expansion premium quality.

[Deja Thoris]

Pro-tip: If you feel compelled to defend a product from haters, it is not a good product. Good products stand on their own merit and all you have to tell anyone about it is to try it for themselves.

Thats not a pro-tip at all. Even the best products have their haters who wouldn't try it if they were told to.

[DisposableHero]

Thats not a pro-tip at all. Even the best products have their haters who wouldn't try it if they were told to.

Every product has haters, bad products, like BFA, make haters out of their longtime fans. The approach of this thread is "BFA is not so bad because...." *excuses*, *pleas to lower expectations*, *promises that things will be better*. If you feel compelled to take that approach, the product is bad.

[Raven]

We need a megathread or a BfA whining subsection already.

And for the record: I think BfA is lackluster too, but come on it's done, we're in hell so let's enjoy it!

We already have, the section is named World of Warcraft

[Skylarking]

Ok, lets say that is a filler expansion. Does that give blizzard a pass to make the game as shit as possible? Probably not. Well, at least it shouldn't.

[Soon-TM]

How is it even humanly possible to have such shitty taste? Legion was the best state the game was ever in, period. Class design was at it's best, with all specs being well rounded and fun to play, a shit ton of unique class content (which made alts fun for the first time in a long time, now it's just boring again), artifact system was amazing and it was a failure to remove it (doing a questline or hunting a hidden skin to add new options to your weapon is infinitely more enjoyable than "this boss drops weapon, kill and bonus roll for gold"), the raids were good, suramar is one of the best zones the game ever had. Claiming otherwise is absolutely fucking delusional.

On the other hand, I'd say that Legion's basic class design was so shallow that it required OP artifacts, a plethora of content and additional flavor via NLC (which wasn't particularly exciting, but it at least added another layer of customization) to cover it up. Now that we have neither artifacts nor lots of (engaging) content, we can see in plain daylight where the actual issues lie. Every class felt like utter shit during Legion's prepatch.

[Archibalde]

...It is a filler expansion.

Now, hate as much as you wish, but we all knew this. BfA was always going to be a small content expansion, pretty much filling between Legion and what will come afterwards.

I wouldn´t make a pointless threat like this, but lately, people keep complaining and complaining and expecting things to be fixed... well, BfA will never get things fixed because they are, most likely, not working on it anymore other than the incoming raid and, MAYBE, another not too big one afterwards with some sort of new daily quest´s pack and event. Period.

Consider this one a break, a chance to play around with all the alts, whatever. Go out and get some fresh air... most likely the next expansion will be much bigger and time consuming again.

It's not a small content expansion at all though. It's got 3 full-size raids (and a small 2-boss raid as well) confirmed and there hasn't been any sign yet that the Naz'jatar patch will be the final one, so there might even be a 4th one that comes out. It launched with 10 dungeons and will have at least one more "mega-dungeon" added in 8.2. That's on par with all the other expansions.

BFA isn't lacking in features, the problem is that those features suck and were clearly not fleshed out enough. Island expeditions and warfronts are shallow, the Azerite system feels like they took all the aspects that people hated about artifacts and transferred those over instead of the popular stuff. M+ wasn't tuned properly coming from Legion and their idea for "seasonal thematic affixes" are annoying rather than challenging.

It's not a filler expansion, it's a failure. And they're working on fixing it. Maybe they'll make it work in the end, maybe not. On the surface though it had the same potential as every other expansion. It was never intended to be another WoD.

[rhorle]

...It is a filler expansion.

There are no filler expansions. People need to stop acting like there are. They don't need to release a bad expansion in order to release a good one.