3+ Dead, bowling alley shooting in California.

[MoFalcon]

Reminder: This is not about guns, you could easily kill 3 people by throwing bowling balls at their heads.

What is the number that does make it about guns? 5?12?31?
This statement was incredibly ignorant. Thinking like this is what allows these things to keep happening?

[SLSAMG]

You Americans are so funny.

[MoFalcon]

Yes and? that doesn't make the statistics of it being 0.0005% of the population affected any different. Also that article says "Globally, most gun deaths were homicides. But in the US, most were suicides."

Violent gun crime in America is actually not that far off Violent gun crime rates of other countries, Suicides just severely skew it. So as I said, the narrative that there is some huge population of bad guys killing people with guns in America is mostly fearmongering.

yeah. 100's of mass shootings......FAKE NEWS. Same as my last comment. Whats the number that will make you think different? Why does the number have to be incredibly high for people to believe its a problem that needs to be fixed.

I GOT AN IDEA....Fix it BEFORE it gets to a stupid number.

[XDurionX]

What is the number that does make it about guns? 5?12?31?
This statement was incredibly ignorant. Thinking like this is what allows these things to keep happening?

Geez, you really have to use joke tags nowadays.

[Airlick]

I could drown people in the bathroom with swirlies too....Doesn't mean this isn't about guns....Guns just make it easier. Faster. More effective. more accessible. more deadly. more violent.

yeah. Guns aren't part of the problem at all....

They are a tiny part of the problem. The problem lies in the Wild West mentality a lot of Americans apparently have. Why does Europe and most of Asia not have a problem with 3rd world tier murder rates, even in countries where guns are easily accessible? Take Switzerland as an example, a country where everyone has a gun at home and there are hardly any shootings.

[Super Kami Dende]

yeah. 100's of mass shootings......FAKE NEWS. Same as my last comment. Whats the number that will make you think different? Why does the number have to be incredibly high for people to believe its a problem that needs to be fixed.

I GOT AN IDEA....Fix it BEFORE it gets to a stupid number.

Mass shootings make up less than 2% of the annual shootings.

[MoFalcon]

Geez, you really have to use joke tags nowadays.

Never looked at it like that, sorry if i took it wrong.

but its exactly the way people think and a perfect response from gun idiots.

Well done!

[Super Kami Dende]

They are a tiny part of the problem. The problem lies in the Wild West mentality a lot of Americans apparently have. Why does Europe and most of Asia not have a problem with 3rd world tier murder rates, even in countries where guns are easily accessible? Take Switzerland as an example, a country where everyone has a gun at home and there are hardly any shootings.

Fear mostly. Unfortunately America has a large Gang Culture which has instilled gun violence as a way of life in many parts of American cities.Other countries criminals are more scared of being so open about it. Most reported Homicide Gun deaths each year are related to it.

[MoFalcon]

Mass shootings make up less than 2% of the annual shootings.

not what i asked.....Whats the number that makes it a problem to you? 10% 15%.

Opiods used to be considered "not a big deal" at one point also.... Whats the number? should we wait until it gets to 20% to make a change?

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I would be snarky by the UK's had atleast 2 stabbings so far and one in front of the victims teen kid.

But it's still early so give it time and I'm sure America will produce the most horrifying crime in the west

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Mass shootings make up less than 2% of the annual shootings.

I don't think it's just body count that's shocking. Its the fact often children are targeted and that one person can inflict so much death in a short period.

[muto]

not what i asked.....Whats the number that makes it a problem to you? 10% 15%.

Opiods used to be considered "not a big deal" at one point also.... Whats the number? should we wait until it gets to 20% to make a change?

Good meme. Mass shootings will never make up 20% of all shootings.

[MoFalcon]

Good meme. Mass shootings will never make up 20% of all shootings.

just like the rest....avoid the question by trying to change the subject. I never said it would or could reach 20%

i just asked whats the number? is any number OK until someone you love gets killed by an idiot with easy access to a gun.

Once your MOM is killed, what number would be OK then?

[Twdft]

As long as the American society as a whole views deadly gun violence as a valid problem solving strategy it will never get any better.

Americans think that they have the right to kill a home invader, not as a last resort thing but actually as the first and best method. Someone breaks down their door, they shoot to kill and feel that's totally as it should be. As long as even good law abiding citizens think killing is OK their criminals will even faster pull the trigger.

[muto]

just like the rest....avoid the question by trying to change the subject. I never said it would or could reach 20%

i just asked whats the number? is any number OK until someone you love gets killed by an idiot with easy access to a gun.

Once your MOM is killed, what number would be OK then?

You 100% did make that assumption that it could.

[muto]

No he didn't you need to reread what he said.

100% did. He asked rhetorically if we should wait until mass shootings make up 20% of all shootings before we make changes.

[MoFalcon]

You 100% did make that assumption that it could.

if you dont want to answer...thats fine. i understand. There is no correct answer. no number is acceptable.

[muto]

if you dont want to answer...thats fine. i understand. There is no correct answer. no number is acceptable.

Double digit number percent would be a huge deal, and yes then changes should be made. 2% not so much.

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13000 Violent Guns deaths

about the same as 1967 US body count in vietnam against an army. everything is just fine....

I guess with your logic, if it was 100k death it would still be fine since it's still a 0, xxx of the population

[Kumorii]

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-p...s-r-1823016659

Always a fun headline.

[Machismo]

Well, I can guarantee you that it wasn't one of my guns that did it, they are all safely tucked away.