Kul Tiran Racials

[Jastall]

I'm pretty certain Regeneratin' will get the nerfbat. A full heal on a 90 second CD, even a channel interrupted by damage, is way too powerful.

[Khaza-R]

I'm pretty certain Regeneratin' will get the nerfbat. A full heal on a 90 second CD, even a channel interrupted by damage, is way too powerful.

Agreed. Even 50% would be strong. 100% is just absurd.

[Kralljin]

except they didnt.
many of them are still not as they were back in vanilla.
orc racial
troll racial
undead racial
human racial was only slightly altered.

First off, what's your point? I don't get it.

Second, they outright removed Perception, not just "slightly altered" it.
Every Man for himself didn't even exist until Wotlk.

Many racials have been nerfed,altered or removed with good reason and those weren't just the Dps ones.

[Chinese Bootlickers]

im just saying the 2% of gold is garbage, and the kul'tiran racials are better

It's terrible if you can't see past your nose, which seems to be the case.

[huth]

also an extra 5k is better then a 1% less nature/frost damage

It's not. Not even close. 1-2k Gold per year over damage reduction to two rather common damage types? That's not even a contest.

The number also includes gold not actually looted of mobs, so in reality, it's far less.

It's terrible if you can't see past your nose, which seems to be the case.

No, it's just terrible in general. 2% of gold dropped by mobs is a tiny bonus.

[FelPlague]

First off, what's your point? I don't get it.

Second, they outright removed Perception, not just "slightly altered" it.
Every Man for himself didn't even exist until Wotlk.

Many racials have been nerfed,altered or removed with good reason and those weren't just the Dps ones.

perception? talking about every man for itself, and i know that but i was more going in first half/third of wow.
so your point is they replaced a class spell with another class spell, and that some how proves its a recent thing?
what about all those other ones?
yes nerfed, but they still exist and can be pretty big differences.

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It's not. Not even close. 1-2k Gold per year over damage reduction to two rather common damage types? That's not even a contest.

The number also includes gold not actually looted of mobs, so in reality, it's far less.



No, it's just terrible in general. 2% of gold dropped by mobs is a tiny bonus.

1-2k gold per year what? i guess you dont gold farm...
also 1% damage reduction... lol
also frost and nature common? i mean in the next raid frost sure, but nature no...
again ONE FUCKING PERCENT
its not guna make a difference at all, so i rather have the extra gold.

[Nathasil]

This is the most racist thread i have seen in a while.

OT: KT racials are good, Haymaker is definetly VERY strong for certain specs. Zandalari racial is insane and won't go live like that. It's wasted time to even talk about it. Just wait and see which component of it they nerf to the ground.

[Kralljin]

so your point is they replaced a class spell with another class spell, and that some how proves its a recent thing?

What?
I have the feeling we aren't on the same page.

I pointed out that saying the human racial was "only slightered" is misleading at best, as the Human racial(s) have been overhauled a few times by now.
In particular i pointed out that one Human racial was outright removed.

Furthermore, my point is that the non dps racials are the ones that cause(d) actual problems, like Perception, EMFH, Hardiness, Arcane Torrent, Shadowmeld, Will of the Forsaken and so forth.

On top of that, for some reason certain races have no second "useful" racial, like Trolls or Mag'har Orcs.

[Khain]

KT racials are a fucking joke, they're basically identical to highmountain taurens, none will play. Zandalari Trolls are broken in PTR and probably won't go live this way.

[Vishy]

"It’s worth noting:

These values are not final.
The aspect of this where it is not interrupted by damage is unintended.
We’re discussing it."

This was taken from a blue post addressing the OPness of Regeneratin'. Right on the front page for reference.

[Kralljin]

KT racials are a fucking joke, they're basically identical to highmountain taurens, none will play.

Because most people choose their race by looks and dps value for their class.
Both Goblins and Highmountain Tauren have strong racials, especially on classes that have low mobility, yet their representation is rather poor.

Haymaker is strong, altough mostly M+ and PvP.

[Deleted]

people seems to be forgetting that Alliance barely had any throughput racials untill WoD when Blizzard actually tried to balance things out but it was far too late to stop the mass exodus of Alliance players swapping to the horde...

So yes, crying about outright overpowered racials going (once again) to horde is justified

[Syegfryed]

It's terrible if you can't see past your nose, which seems to be the case.

if you believe that 2% of gold from mobs its better than any other kul'tiran racial you have brain damage

people seems to be forgetting that Alliance barely had any throughput racials untill WoD when Blizzard actually tried to balance things out but it was far too late to stop the mass exodus of Alliance players swapping to the horde...

So yes, crying about outright overpowered racials going (once again) to horde is justified

weird, i don't remember every man for himself being added in wod

but i get some sympathy if the alliance stand up for the garbage maghar racials too, aka, worst racials in the game

[RobertMugabe]

Brush it Off: Basically reduce damage taken by 2% (it heals 2% of all dmg taken over 4sec)

Haymaker: Deal dmg+Stun+ knocking them back substantially on a 2.5m CD

I see Blizz is addressing faction balance?

Haymaker isn't op at all. The dmg is definitely gonna be minimal (as all of the dmg racials are) and this isn't the only stun racial in the game, so what? It's also gonna be super useless in raid content and the 2.5m cd is pretty big.

If anything, it's the Zandalari that are stupidly op right now (incl. their other bonuses besides the stupidly op heal)

[Deleted]

Haymaker isn't op at all. The dmg is definitely gonna be minimal (as all of the dmg racials are) and this isn't the only stun racial in the game, so what? It's also gonna be super useless in raid content and the 2.5m cd is pretty big.

It also has a 1 sec cast time. It's trash in this state.

Btw the substancial is not substancial. It's about 12y.

[huth]

1-2k gold per year what? i guess you dont gold farm...

Apparently, neither do you. It's 2% of gold dropped by mobs. Very little gold comes from that source.

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It also has a 1 sec cast time. It's trash in this state.

Btw the substancial is not substancial. It's about 12y.

12y + stun isn't exactly bad.

[mostvp71]

KT racials arent even that good, it’s a 3 min cd that stuns + knockback meaning youre stunned while in the air. The “Brush it off” talent is pretty meh as well KT will be good in PvP for classes that kite/casters(mage, hunter, boomie, rdruid, priest, shaman) they’re balanced. Zandalari however, needs some tuning which Ystheins already stated the values could be changed and the regen was supposed to break on damage.

[DazManianDevil]

Oh look more OP racials while they sell race changes for $25 a pop. What a surprise

*Billy Mayes voice* But wait THERE'S MORE! Limited time only, you have to grind out rep and or quest chain to even throw your money at Blizz.
OT: I'm hyped for Zandalari Paladin in T1.

[BananaHandsB]

I'd take a 3 sec stun (with a knockback) over a 4 sec channeled heal any day. Cracks me up seeing the ally rage over the zandalari racials.

[Cempa]

KT racials arent even that good, it’s a 3 min cd that stuns + knockback meaning youre stunned while in the air. The “Brush it off” talent is pretty meh as well KT will be good in PvP for classes that kite/casters(mage, hunter, boomie, rdruid, priest, shaman) they’re balanced. Zandalari however, needs some tuning which Ystheins already stated the values could be changed and the regen was supposed to break on damage.

So the 100% regen as a value is intended? That can't be .. 4sec of no damage is doable ..

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I'd take a 3 sec stun (with a knockback) over a 4 sec channeled heal any day. Cracks me up seeing the ally rage over the zandalari racials.

So it IS confirmed that 100% channeled heal -so stand still and breaks on dmg- is intended? So, 2sec is 50% HP, that is still pretty damn good would you not say? Is it affected by Haste?