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    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    Lmao thats the post you link to prove the bias argument? Alright well have fun complaining about orcs being unjustly shown as evil.
    Your images only further prove your status as an irrational Alliance fan who hates anything Horde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    Your images only further prove your status as an irrational Alliance fan who hates anything Horde.
    Wow what a leap. Ok have fun imagining your slights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    1. In Warcrimes where it was said they were all arrested. Now they don't appear in stuff like BFA, while the 7th Legion still does.

    2. They were a part of the narrative before.

    3. Because it has to be undead and Blood Elves doing everything I suppose. Meanwhile humans still get all the spotlight on the Alliance.

    4. Official site has always said orcs have no leader since the beginning of Warlords.

    5. Orcs have been doing nothing? Screentime of orcs as villains for the player to kill is not screen time for orc lore.
    You say that like it's a good thing or something ANYONE, alliance or horde, wants. Undead and belves come to the spotlight for a bit and it's all "I WANT NOTHING BUT ORCS AGAIN PLEASE!"

    C'mon. Alliance is begging for anything but humans and you act like they are getting their way by still only having humans (and a bit of nelf lately)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izalla View Post
    You say that like it's a good thing or something ANYONE, alliance or horde, wants. Undead and belves come to the spotlight for a bit and it's all "I WANT NOTHING BUT ORCS AGAIN PLEASE!"

    C'mon. Alliance is begging for anything but humans and you act like they are getting their way by still only having humans (and a bit of nelf lately)

    No one said we wanted anything but orcs.

    The problem is orcs have nothing right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    Wow what a leap. Ok have fun imagining your slights.

    Toho: Orcs should always be evil because they destroyed Stormwind under Demon Blood and the Burning Legion manipulated them for years to turn them against the Draenei.

    In other words, your shallowness is preventing you from looking at the full picture. You always saw orcs as fully evil, thus you are unable to see the Horde perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    No one said we wanted anything but orcs.

    The problem is orcs have nothing right now.
    And they had everything in WoD. They are allowed to have a break.
    give up dat booty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    The problem is orcs have nothing right now.
    Enjoy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    No one said we wanted anything but orcs.

    The problem is orcs have nothing right now.
    And for now, we've had enough orcs for a while.

    MoP and WoD was all about orcs, even if they were ''hurr durr evul'', it's still orcs, even if you dont count it as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    No one said we wanted anything but orcs.

    The problem is orcs have nothing right now.




    Toho: Orcs should always be evil because they destroyed Stormwind under Demon Blood and the Burning Legion manipulated them for years to turn them against the Draenei.

    In other words, your shallowness is preventing you from looking at the full picture. You always saw orcs as fully evil, thus you are unable to see the Horde perspective.
    Correct me if I'm wrong. But blizzard gave the horde a chance to support saurfang only to have to introduce a second path in the matter cuz ppl complained about hurting sylvanaslol
    Blood Elves were based on a STRONG request from a poll of Asian players where many remarked on the Horde side that they and their girlfriends wanted a non-creepy femme race to play (Source)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    Enjoy.
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    All of that was orcs acting as incredibly OOC villains for the player to kill and completely destroyed past orc lore in all past lore like Rise of the Horde. Once again Alliance fanboys think the Horde being villains for them to kill is somehow Horde bias.

    The last bit is Saurfang, the only orc allowed to do anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by P5YKO-TP View Post
    And for now, we've had enough orcs for a while.

    MoP and WoD was all about orcs, even if they were ''hurr durr evul'', it's still orcs, even if you dont count it as such.
    MOP and WOD were all about killing orcs.

    Look at humans for a face that gets too much actual focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    No one said we wanted anything but orcs.

    The problem is orcs have nothing right now.




    Toho: Orcs should always be evil because they destroyed Stormwind under Demon Blood and the Burning Legion manipulated them for years to turn them against the Draenei.

    In other words, your shallowness is preventing you from looking at the full picture. You always saw orcs as fully evil, thus you are unable to see the Horde perspective.
    That's not what @Toho is saying. You can only use the excuse of "I was brainwashed" so many times until ppl stop taking you seriously.

    Heck, no other race was given a brand new crack at redeeming themselves like the orcs were in WoD. And guess what. Chose felblood again in the end lol.
    Blood Elves were based on a STRONG request from a poll of Asian players where many remarked on the Horde side that they and their girlfriends wanted a non-creepy femme race to play (Source)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    The last bit is Saurfang, the only orc allowed to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    MOP and WOD were all about killing orcs.

    Look at humans for a face that gets too much actual focus.
    It's still orcs. You just don't like that.

    What about the Frostwolves in WoD then? And Laughing Skull? They don't count? Also the fact that we got to experience the ORC HOMEWORLD before its destruction into Outland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minikin View Post
    That's not what @Toho is saying. You can only use the excuse of "I was brainwashed" so many times until ppl stop taking you seriously.
    In Rise of the Horde, the Burning Legion orchestrated the death of the entire Bladewind tribe, turmoil/silence of the elements and framed the Draenei for it, and masquerading as the orcs ancestors to turn the orcs against the Draenei after years of peaceful co-existence.

    In WOD, the orcs turn on the Draenei for no reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minikin View Post
    Heck, no other race was given a brand new crack at redeeming themselves like the orcs were in WoD. And guess what. Chose felblood again in the end lol.
    Thats because the storyline was written to please Alliance fanboys like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P5YKO-TP View Post
    It's still orcs. You just don't like that.

    What about the Frostwolves in WoD then? And Laughing Skull? They don't count? Also the fact that we got to experience the ORC HOMEWORLD before its destruction into Outland?
    He is just mad that the Orcs are only focused on fighting and conquering because that's not who they were really about.
    Orcs were actually originally children of the forest. They were pure and innocent where they would leave little candies for Draenei children's in little jars.

    Sweet little creatures really. Blizzard completely messed up with their lore by turning them into these savage and brutal warfaring society.
    Wait a minute...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    Thats because the storyline was written to please Alliance fanboys like you.
    --- snip ---

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    In Rise of the Horde, the Burning Legion orchestrated the death of the entire Bladewind tribe, turmoil/silence of the elements and framed the Draenei for it, and masquerading as the orcs ancestors to turn the orcs against the Draenei after years of peaceful co-existence.

    In WOD, the orcs turn on the Draenei for no reason.



    Thats because the storyline was written to please Alliance fanboys like you.
    They do it because Garrosh told them to, as they would get in the way eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    He is just mad that the Orcs are only focused on fighting and conquering because that's not who they were really about.
    Orcs were actually originally children of the forest. They were pure and innocent where they would leave little candies for Draenei children's in little jars.

    Sweet little creatures really. Blizzard completely messed up with their lore by turning them into these savage and brutal warfaring society.
    Wait a minute...
    So it seems..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    Besides Garrosh They lost:


    The Kor'kron, Evil and gone forever

    Warsong Clan, Evil and gone forever

    Dragonmaw Clan, Evil and gone forever

    Zaela, Evil and gone forever

    Shokia, Evil and gone forever

    Nazgrim, Sided with Garrosh and gone from the Horde forever

    The idea of Orcs moving on from the past, gone forever

    The idea of Orcs being family with Tauren and Trolls, gone Forever

    Orcs having a racial leader, gone forever

    Orcs being anything but evil cannon fodder, gone forever.


    Now with Battle for Azeroth, more races of the Horde can join orcs on the evil cannon fodder team.
    It's really sad when these fanboys cry as soon as something bad happens to their favorite faction. Grow up kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    He gone!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    He is just mad that the Orcs are only focused on fighting and conquering because that's not who they were really about.
    Orcs were actually originally children of the forest. They were pure and innocent where they would leave little candies for Draenei children's in little jars.
    Nice job strawmanning, why don't you go home to cry to mommy about Horde bias some more and let the adults talk?

    Infracted.
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    Then why don't you regale us with how peace loving the orcs were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    Nice job strawmanning, why don't you go home to cry to mommy about Horde bias some more and let the adults talk?
    Go ahead and leave, please.

    You're the only child in here it seems.

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