New Stormwind Portal Room - Kirin Tor broke their neutrality again?

[Elemenion]

EDIT: I noticed that many people don't understand what I'm saying, so just to clarify : I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PORTALS AND THEIR KEEPERS! I am talking about the entire room. You can see at least one Dalaran mage at the start and eight Kirin Tor banners in the entire room. Without counting the ones next to the Dalaran portal.



Have you seen the new portal room of Stormwind? Well if you haven't, here it is :




Kirin Tor banners are all over the place, literally. You can even see some Dalaran mages hanging around. What the hell? Inside the new Orgrimmar portal room they have zero presence. I am not the best lore guy, but I know well enough that in the past they have broken their neutrality at least twice, siding with the Alliance. In Legion they invited the Horde yet again, but now this, if anything, clearly shows their preference.

As a Horde player, I do not want ever again to work with these guys. Even in Legion I didn't want to. I don't trust them, I don't like them, for perfectly good, ogvious reasons. Stop forcing them in our faces.

[Caerule]

If it's mage-related and it's in WoW, it needs to have the eye of the Kirin Tor on it.

That's just an unfortunate unwritten rule of WoW too often. It's on so many mage sets too, which is annoying for a Horde transmogger.
I'm not surprised to see the Alliance rely on them for their Portal Room at all. Blizzard loves the Kirin Tor.

[etheldald]

is just gameplay bro... or the horde doesn't have kirin tor banners in their portal room?

and yes, that stupidity of dalaran going neutral in legion was pure garbage.

like "well, jaina is gone, everything is forgiven,let's ignore the fact the council NEVER punished her for her actions and that khadgar pretty much look the other way"
in fact, seeing aethas beg to go back was hard.. even for an alliance player like me.

wait.. there isn't a portal to dala in orgri?

[Elemenion]

If it's mage-related and it's in WoW, it needs to have the eye of the Kirin Tor on it.

That's just an unfortunate unwritten rule of WoW too often. It's on so many mage sets too, which is annoying for a Horde transmogger.
I'm not surprised to see the Alliance rely on them for their Portal Room at all. Blizzard loves the Kirin Tor.

It's only for Alliance though, and it's not just sets on npcs, you can see Kirin Tor banners everywhere, they could easily replace these banners with Stormwind ones. Why not do the same for the Horde room?

[Amaterasu65]

I think the Horde have a portal conjured by Nightborne leading in Azsuna. Also Shadowmoon orcs conjuring for Draenor I guess.

Edit: scrap that, the alliance has equivalent ones as well. And the ones conjuring the Azsuna portal in Stormwind are Farondis undead elves.

[etheldald]

It's only for Alliance though, and it's not just sets on npcs, you can see Kirin Tor banners everywhere, they could easily replace these banners with Stormwind ones. Why not do the same for the Horde room?

i mean, do we have any evidence that they leaved the alliance?
did someone said "we leave the alliance!"
only khadgar expressed his desire to not take sides.
But he can't decide by himself on behalf of the kirin tor... right? it is supposed to be a council.

[Kralljin]

Strange guess: Portals to Dalaran have Kirin Tor for the Horde as well, or Sunreaver.

Portals and the guys around, from what i've seen, are based on the location the portal leads to, that's why there are portals from ethereals to Outland, because Ethereals are prominent in Outland.

[zlygork]

Dalaran has always been alliance first, even when neutral. It is a city filled with former alliance humans and elves after all. I would expect the majority of them to decide to protect their potential families in stormwind and beyond when massive war comes to pass

[rogueMatthias]

To be honest, after Sylvanas unprovoked attack and genocide it's more strange that so many of these groups are still staying neutral.

How are groups like the Cenarion Circle still neutral after this?

[matrix123mko]

Dalaran has always been alliance first, even when neutral. It is a city filled with former alliance humans and elves after all. I would expect the majority of them to decide to protect their potential families in stormwind and beyond when massive war comes to pass

What about their potential families in Quel'thalas and Orgrimmar? Do you know that Stormwidians were a little isolated from other kingdoms? If I was going to search for Dalaranians' families, I would start among the Forsaken.

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To be honest, after Sylvanas unprovoked attack and genocide it's more strange that so many of these groups are still staying neutral.

How are groups like the Cenarion Circle still neutral after this?

Very unprovoked. Say that to forsaken killed in Stormheim.

[Elemenion]

Strange guess: Portals to Dalaran have Kirin Tor for the Horde as well, or Sunreaver.

Portals and the guys around, from what i've seen, are based on the location the portal leads to, that's why there are portals from ethereals to Outland, because Ethereals are prominent in Outland.

Portal to Dalaran have Undead Argent Dawn members for Horde and Silver Covenant for the Alliance. But, I'm not talking about the guys who summon the portals, but the room itself. Alliance's room is bedecked with Kirin Tor symbols everywhere, plus some Dalaran npcs here and there (not the ones around the portals).

Horde's room represented only by Horde factions, no sign of Dalaran anywhere. As it should be.

[kasuke06]

What about their potential families in Quel'thalas and Orgrimmar? Do you know that Stormwidians were a little isolated from other kingdoms? If I was going to search for Dalaranians' families, I would start among the Forsaken.

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Very unprovoked. Say that to forsaken killed in Stormheim.

... Didn't the horde kinda you know... murder the shit out of their previous leader Rhonin? Then some mages betrayed their supposed neutrality in favor of secretly supplying the horde while garrosh was still on his "orc hitler" bender?

Kinda seems like they might have had this coming.

[Beloren]

Kirin Tor banners are all over the place, literally. You can even see some Dalaran mages hanging around. What the hell? Inside the new Orgrimmar portal room they have zero presence. I am not the best lore guy, but I know well enough that in the past they have broken their neutrality at least twice, siding with the Alliance. In Legion they invited the Horde yet again, but now this, if anything, clearly shows their preference.

As a Horde player, I do not want ever again to work with these guys. Even in Legion I didn't want to. I don't trust them, I don't like them, for perfectly good, ogvious reasons. Stop forcing them in our faces.

Just another click bait...No, the Kirin'tor banners are not all over the alliance portal room. They're just on the Dalaran portal where they should be as every other portal area had the appropriate banner, no where else.. what are you smoking?

I would have liked the Sunreavers to do the horde's portal, showing they are aback, but the Forsaken is more appropriate, now the Sunreavers can create a blood elf magical academy.

Saying that you would note the horde portal room has a Blood elf Kirin'tor Emissary - confirming blood elves are totally accepted back, but Forsaken handle the portal.

I think the Horde have a portal conjured by Nightborne leading in Azsuna. Also Shadowmoon orcs conjuring for Draenor I guess.

Edit: scrap that, the alliance has equivalent ones as well. And the ones conjuring the Azsuna portal in Stormwind are Farondis undead elves.

Yes the horde and alliance equivalent portals which makes sense. Not sure if any meaning should be taken from those.
Oh and Farondis are ghost elves, not undead - it's like they're slightly out of phase - is the only way i can explain them being ghosts and able to function fully as living people and interact at will able to affect/touch things or phase through them. Maybe they don't even realise they are phased, such a concept would not exist in this world even if it does happen.

[Utigarde]

Just another click bait...No, the Kirin'tor banners are not all over the alliance portal room. They're just on the Dalaran portal where they should be as every other portal area had the appropriate banner, no where else.. what are you smoking?

I would have liked the Sunreavers to do the horde's portal, showing they are aback, but the Forsaken is more appropriate, now the Sunreavers can create a blood elf magical academy.

He's not referring to the portal keepers. Look at the entryway to the portal area, at around 40 seconds. The banners from the Mage order hall, with the new Kirin Tor logo, are on both walls.

[Elemenion]

Just another click bait...No, the Kirin'tor banners are not all over the alliance portal room. They're just on the Dalaran portal where they should be as every other portal area had the appropriate banner, no where else.. what are you smoking?

I would have liked the Sunreavers to do the horde's portal, showing they are aback, but the Forsaken is more appropriate, now the Sunreavers can create a blood elf magical academy.

Saying that you would note the horde portal room has a Blood elf Kirin'tor Emissary - confirming blood elves are totally accepted back, but Forsaken handle the portal..

I cannot understand why so many people are talking about the portals. I am NOT talking about the portals. Jesus. Watch the video carefully. You can see at least one Dalaran mage at the start and eight Kirin Tor banners in the entire room. Without counting the ones next to the Dalaran portal.

He's not referring to the portal keepers. Look at the entryway to the portal area, at around 40 seconds. The banners from the Mage order hall, with the new Kirin Tor logo, are on both walls.

thanks

[SNES-1990]

The Kirin Tor are boring so I don't care much either way. Nice portal room tho

[Zandalariprelate]

Blizzard needs to make Quel'Danas the magic hub for the horde or some 120 zone from Suramar, really the horde doesn't need Dalaran with 2 magic elven factions in their ranks

[Hyral]

That's silly, it's not about sides. They are aiding us in fighting the new Scourge, which is a threat to everyone not just the Alliance.

[Highelf]

Why is there a portal to Aszuna? Is that going to be the night elves new home?

[Bigby]

Between the genocide and desire to turn all of humanity into her undead thralls, it makes more sense if just about every neutral faction flocks to the Alliance's side let alone the Kirin Tor.