Trump will likely win reelection in 2020

[Hella clutch]

All they got to do with Biden is show the CSPAN video where Biden is talking about cutting medicare and social security and that is all she wrote for him.

I forgot about that. When Richard Ojeda is to the left of you you’re in trouble.

[Fugus]

I forgot about that. When Richard Ojeda is to the left of you you’re in trouble.

Pretty much.

The Democrats have all the need to win, they just have to avoid throwing it away like they did in 2016 with Clinton and their actions during the primaries. While Russia was a factor, their own actions were also a factor and could have overcome Russian meddling if they had been impartial with their stuff but instead, they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

The Democrats need to get someone that the people WANT to come out and vote for and not just someone on the other side to vote against.

I won't lie, Trump has been such a horrible person, that just voting against him should be enough regardless of about who they run short of Clinton (Hell, they get Clinton the primary after all that has happened and I will be attempted to vote Trump just to get them unfuck themselves and listen to their voters).

But after all this, they need to listen to their voters otherwise they just stay home. Having demographics on your side isn't enough when you work harder at ignoring them then listening to them in favor of donors.

I think if they actually start pushing for their stuff instead of paying lip service, those "Unreliable Younger Voters" might end up being more reliable. I personally didn't vote till 2016 with Sanders being the one who actually gave me something worth voting for. Before that, I saw both parties as mostly throwing my vote away because they paid lip service to issues and never really tried to fix them many times.

[Deletedaccount1]

Once we don't have Putin's cock holster in the Oval Office and the Democrats run the whole show, Russia will get their comeuppance.

Like when the previous Democratic president allowed the Syrian Civil War to be dictated on Russian terms or when he was caught on a hot mic in 2012 telling Medvedev that he would be more flexible with Russia upon being re-elected?

There is a very real chance that someone like Tulsi Gabbard could end up in the White House in 2020 who, like Trump, is more than willing to cooperate with authoritarian regimes for their own purposes.

[Thekri]

Like when the previous Democratic president allowed the Syrian Civil War to be dictated on Russian terms or when he was caught on a hot mic in 2012 telling Medvedev that he would be more flexible with Russia upon being re-elected?

There is a very real chance that someone like Tulsi Gabbard could end up in the White House in 2020 who, like Trump, is more than willing to cooperate with authoritarian regimes for their own purposes.

Oh the irony... it hurts so much...

There is just so much there, you can't be doing this by accident.

[Deletedaccount1]

Oh the irony... it hurts so much...

There is just so much there, you can't be doing this by accident.

Not an argument.

[Felya]

Not an argument.

Yeah, neither was saying Hillary’s no fly zone, was the start of a WW3. But, now here you are... talking about the guy who presided during implementation of Maginsky act, handing over Syria, because of a hot mic saying he wants better relations with Russia. You know, something that most politicians do, without private meeting in Trump tower or dinners with Russian officials after hosting a beauty pageant in Moscow... America first...

[Resurgo]

Pretty much.

The Democrats have all the need to win, they just have to avoid throwing it away like they did in 2016 with Clinton and their actions during the primaries. While Russia was a factor, their own actions were also a factor and could have overcome Russian meddling if they had been impartial with their stuff but instead, they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

The Democrats need to get someone that the people WANT to come out and vote for and not just someone on the other side to vote against.

I won't lie, Trump has been such a horrible person, that just voting against him should be enough regardless of about who they run short of Clinton (Hell, they get Clinton the primary after all that has happened and I will be attempted to vote Trump just to get them unfuck themselves and listen to their voters).

But after all this, they need to listen to their voters otherwise they just stay home. Having demographics on your side isn't enough when you work harder at ignoring them then listening to them in favor of donors.

I think if they actually start pushing for their stuff instead of paying lip service, those "Unreliable Younger Voters" might end up being more reliable. I personally didn't vote till 2016 with Sanders being the one who actually gave me something worth voting for. Before that, I saw both parties as mostly throwing my vote away because they paid lip service to issues and never really tried to fix them many times.

I'll say this much.

I was part of the problem because I voted third party. Hated both Clinton and Trump... couldn't stand to vote for either of them.

If I had the chance to vote again, I'd vote Clinton in in a heartbeat. Trump has proven every negative I took him for and then some.

Not to think the democrats would do it again, but if Clinton were on the ballot as a pompous "I told you so" (not unlike her puppet tweet), I'd still vote for her. That's how much trump has pushed me towards the left.

[Mormolyce]

I have learned through long experience not to underestimate the US voter base, because it's basically impossible.

Still, doesn't seem very likely.

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Not an argument.

He wasn't really making one, you kind of made it for him, he was just dunking on you for it.

[Muajin76]

HEY OP.. You seriously think Trump will win reelection in 2020..after what he's done? You got issues..

[Felya]

HEY OP.. You seriously think Trump will win reelection in 2020..after what he's done? You got issues..

Can you imagine the rhetoric from DNC potentials starting in September. With every single one claiming they will reopen the government? I think Trump might have a challenge in the primaries if it comes to that. With GOP blame being sub 10% for the shutdown, I think a challenge can come up on opening the government from GOP.

But... I doubt it lasts 9 more months... right? There is no way?

[Deletedaccount1]

He wasn't really making one, you kind of made it for him, he was just dunking on you for it.

What did I make for him?

[Powerogue]

I can't understand even fellow conservatives attempting to help him get re-elected at this point. He's insane and unpredictable, a conspiracy theorist and a daily public embarrassment. What would they have to gain?

[Gestopft]

What would they have to gain?

The only thing the matters- maximal Liberal tears.

[s_bushido]

I can't understand even fellow conservatives attempting to help him get re-elected at this point. He's insane and unpredictable, a conspiracy theorist and a daily public embarrassment. What would they have to gain?

It's what they have to lose: Whatever remains of their party's legitimacy. If he's defeated by a challenger from the opposition party, they can at least try to be graceful about it. If they have to replace their own guy before the election cycle even gets out of the primaries, they'd actually have to address the questions of "how did we let it get this bad in the first place" which they've been desperately ignoring basically since the orange dumbass was sworn into office.

[Deletedaccount1]

I can't understand even fellow conservatives attempting to help him get re-elected at this point. He's insane and unpredictable, a conspiracy theorist and a daily public embarrassment. What would they have to gain?

A way to get good policies passed.

[Independent voter]

I'm going to vote for Trump.

Unless the democrats run someone who's exemplary.

[Felya]

I'm going to vote for Trump.

Unless the democrats run someone who's exemplary.

US troops were just killed in Syria, by ISIS. Do you think there is anything Trump could do in response, to change your mind?

[Greyvax]

It's what they have to lose: Whatever remains of their party's legitimacy. If he's defeated by a challenger from the opposition party, they can at least try to be graceful about it. If they have to replace their own guy before the election cycle even gets out of the primaries, they'd actually have to address the questions of "how did we let it get this bad in the first place" which they've been desperately ignoring basically since the orange dumbass was sworn into office.

Graceful like how? Complain for 2+ years about "but muh popular vote" like the dems did?

[Felya]

Graceful like how? Complain for 2+ years about "but muh popular vote" like the dems did?

Yeah, when did “by the people, for the people, of the people” become a democrat outcry? Last I checked, it’s not democrats that wave the Gadsden flag. You think 2 years is too long? What do you call confederate pride?

[DocSavageFan]

I can't understand even fellow conservatives attempting to help him get re-elected at this point. He's insane and unpredictable, a conspiracy theorist and a daily public embarrassment. What would they have to gain?

Hopefully Democrats will offer a reasonably moderate candidate. If they go extreme to appeal to their rabid base, we may be looking at 4 more years of Trump imo.