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  1. #61
    Lol it's like saying you are eating organic corn

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    You think this banana was put in a lab and modified? No.
    Maybe you should research bananas.....

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    Maybe you should research bananas.....
    Maybe you should learn to tell the difference between GMO and selective breeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    it's ok for people to profit off their work.
    Not in the insane amounts they do. Nobody needs that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    Maybe you should learn to tell the difference between GMO and selective breeding.
    What's the difference between: one half of a split hair and the other half of a split hair.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    Not in the insane amounts they do. Nobody needs that much money.
    Have fun selling your idea, but from the looks of it, only fringe nutters and yourself are buying into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    Maybe you should learn to tell the difference between GMO and selective breeding.

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    Not in the insane amounts they do. Nobody needs that much.
    Soooooo.... genetically modifying something by selective reproduction is different then just speeding up the process molecularly......riiiiiiiight

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    I don't ignore many people, but that Katie N girl obviously can't think logically and isn't worth arguing with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    Have fun selling your idea, but from the looks of it, only fringe nutters and yourself are buying into it.
    What is someone going to do with it when they already have billions? They don't need it for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    Soooooo.... genetically modifying something by selective reproduction is different then just speeding up the process molecularly......riiiiiiiight
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneti...ified_organism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_breeding

    They are not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    What is someone going to do with it when they already have billions? They don't need it for anything.
    Fund a new company or startup? Your issue with extreme wealth inequality is simply progressive tax plans.
    The wise wolf who's pride is her wisdom isn't so sharp as drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    Fund a new company or startup? Your issue with extreme wealth inequality is simply progressive tax plans.
    They can have maybe 1 or 2% of the profit but rest has to go to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    What is someone going to do with it when they already have billions? They don't need it for anything.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneti...ified_organism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_breeding

    They are not the same.
    Maybe try reading the entire articles instead of skimming.... They are the EXACT SAME THING, except one can take generations to accomplish while another can be done in weeks

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    Maybe try reading the entire articles instead of skimming.... They are the EXACT SAME THING, except one can take generations to accomplish while another can be done in weeks
    No, they aren't.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    They can have maybe 1 or 2% of the profit but rest has to go to people.
    Your location checks out.

  13. #73
    It's like stupidity has become a defense mechanism of our species to prevent our standard of living getting too high.

    Scientists: We can END HORRIBLE DISEASES ENTIRELY! We just need to make sure you vaccinate your children.
    Group of morons: Never! Having our children die slowly and painfully sounds much better!

    Scientists: We can END WORLD HUNGER ENTIRELY! By genetically modifying this food for increased yield and reduced disease-
    Group of morons: Did you say "genetics"? I don't know what that means but it sounds toxic!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    Scientists: We can END WORLD HUNGER ENTIRELY! By genetically modifying this food for increased yield and reduced disease-
    Group of morons: Did you say "genetics"? I don't know what that means but it sounds toxic!!
    We can end it in this very moment, with what we have today. There's more than enough food production on the planet for everyone. It's a lack of political will to do it that's the reason for it. GMO wouldn't do anything to end it, we'd still have the lack of political will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    Maybe try reading the entire articles instead of skimming.... They are the EXACT SAME THING, except one can take generations to accomplish while another can be done in weeks
    Selective breeding is a form of GM but, not all GM is exactly like selective breeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    So? Doesn't matter if people can't afford it due to the companies wanting to make profit. It would be cheaper with traditional interventions to provide vitamin A to people than doing so through GMO but why do that? Doesn't make companies as much profit.
    Golden Rice was created by a non-profit organization so there goes your shit argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    Why care? If they don't want it why does it matter why they don't want it? Companies do not have a right to make profit.
    Non-GMO foods take more land and resources to grow, which has a direct impact on the environment. They're also more expensive for no real gain, aside from in one or two special areas (while being weaker or worse in one or two others). Organic (non-GMO) is almost wholly just there to make people 'feel better'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    We can end it in this very moment, with what we have today. There's more than enough food production on the planet for everyone. It's a lack of political will to do it that's the reason for it. GMO wouldn't do anything to end it, we'd still have the lack of political will.
    It's actually a lot more complicated than just politics. Part of it is placement of where food is produced and where food is needed. An excess of food is produced in certain areas, and there are areas that need that food but are quite far away. Preservation and transportation costs and issues need to then be taken into account. Ideally, we would have more balanced food production spread out over the world, so everyone gets roughly the same amounts of food for their population size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    They can have maybe 1 or 2% of the profit but rest has to go to people.
    So, you are fighting against science and capitalism, and pushing for ignorance and communism... does that pretty much cover it?

    I haven't seen someone argue in favor of willful ignorance as hard as you have in a very long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRainingMetal View Post
    That's okay. I still dont want it.
    And that's fine. That's a decision for you and you alone. Don't be like other assholes and try to fuck over everyone else, mmkay? Developing nations in particular need things like Golden Rice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    Did you even read about it? You need to eat massive amounts of it for it to have any effect. It's not viable.
    Wrongo.

    “Daily consumption of a very modest amount of Golden Rice—about a cup—could supply 50 percent of the recommended daily allowance of vitamin A for an adult,” said rice breeder Russell Reinke, who leads the Healthier Rice Program at the International Rice Research Institute (IRRI), the organization that has been conducting field trials in the Philippines. “Ms. Bleakley’s statement is inaccurate and unsubstantiated.” -sauce

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    They are only doing it for profit. Not an act of kindness.
    Here's another one for you.

    "Because the two academic scientists who developed the original Golden Rice stipulated that it be made available to poor farmers for free, Syngenta, or any other corporation, does not own the intellectual property in developing countries and therefore cannot charge royalties. According to IRRI, the terms of the licenses in place in the Philippines and elsewhere ensure that Golden Rice varieties will cost no more than their conventional equivalents. This means that farmers will be able to save and replant Golden Rice seeds.

    Syngenta could in the future choose to commercialize Golden Rice in developed countries, likely as a substitute for vitamin A pills."

    It's literally free for poor farmers. What problem do you have with this?

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    Same with anti-vaxxers and racists: those least knowledgeable hold the strongest of opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    Maybe try reading the entire articles instead of skimming.... They are the EXACT SAME THING, except one can take generations to accomplish while another can be done in weeks
    No, they are not the same thing. In layman's terms, one occurs "natural" and the other only through our doing. The goal might be identical though. But if you try to argue that the distinction in itself is bullshit... you are right.

    It's also interesting to see how differently the US and EU approach GMO foods. The EU is insanely strict, where even additives made from GMO's undergo scrutiny and labelling unless they are a minuscule percentage of the mass. EU countries also have an at-will op-out for GMO food, even if the European Food Safety Authority legalizes the substance. Meanwhile, the US only asks (not even require iirc) you to label the food.
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