How is AMD/Intel now for CPU? (Gaming)

[sarym13]

System is getting old. Going to build a new PC either this, or next month. Need to decide on the CPU. Curious though how is AMD now compared to Intel in gaming?

When I built my system (I7 3770k) AMD was considered a poor choice for gaming. I see now tho that appears to have changed and there are actually a lot more AMD users out there now.

For this build I wanna go relatively big on the processor. My CPU of choice currently is the 9900k. Tho I am curious, how does the AMD counterpart of the 9900k (If its released yet?) compare to this for mostly gaming at 1440p

[Xjev]

9900k is a bit overkill for 1440p gaming, regardless its the best out there, if you got the money to burn.

[JRZoid]

9900k is overkill.

AMD is great now....the 2600x runs great.

Fighting the Pumps again in the water build as usual...that one was a cheap pump..ran for like a year and died...
That one had a little more power too. Maybe the EK will hang in there awhile longer.

[Temp name]

9900k is overkill.

AMD is great now....the 2600x runs great.

Fighting the Pumps again in the water build as usual...that one was a cheap pump..ran for like a year and died...
That one had a little more power too. Maybe the EK will hang in there awhile longer.

That last part has nothing to do with this thread, stop spamming.

For OP: AMD currently doesn't have anything to rival the 9900k in gaming, but 2700/x are still more than fine for 1440p

[JRZoid]

That last part has nothing to do with this thread, stop spamming.

For OP: AMD currently doesn't have anything to rival the 9900k in gaming, but 2700/x are still more than fine for 1440p

Not spamming you...get off you're bullshit dude...it's called a comment and something notable...

Yeah it is Relevant that is run or NOT shit...it died and over heated the Bastard...I have no idea how hot it even got...to trip thermal shut down kill it...OMG hope AMD built them Tough.

[Erous]

Not sure why the comments all state 2700x is fine for 1440p specifically, granted I do see that as a focus for the OP. Any newage processor of 6cores or more is adequate assuming the video card you have supports the FPS you'd like to gain. Nearly all benchmarks show all newage processors hitting the same or NEARLY IDENTICAL framerates at 4k and event 1440p in MOST circumstances.

@OP is really depends what your system is going to be used for, what GPU you have and how much money you have to burn. If you want the latest and greatest (i.e. fastest for lots of things and equal with gaming) then the 9900k is just that. If you want the bang for your buck, then you need to compare your GPU performance at 1440 and how that measures to your expectations alongside performance of the CPU.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

AMD is a way better bang for your buck option that will perform damn well in games and give you more room on that video card budget that honestly makes the biggest difference when it comes to gaming. In the older days AMD was a trash tier budget builder but that isn't the case anymore. Yeah, Intel does still have an edge in single threaded speeds but the gap is rapidly closing and Intel has been knee jerking products out in a worrisome response to AMDs compitition which didn't happen the last time these 2 fought.

As of right now if money isn't an issue go Intel without a doubt. If you have to make choices between CPU and video card power then AMD is a great choice to allow you that bigger video card without making that big of a sacrifice in CPU. I have a 2700x work station with my old video card in it (780ti) and it owns games still. If it had a top tier 2080ti in there I doubt it would miss a beat.

[Yizu]

How is Ryzen on 20-30 man raids vs equivalent Intel? Like 9600/8600 vs 2600x

[Temp name]

How is Ryzen on 20-30 man raids vs equivalent Intel? Like 9600/8600 vs 2600x

Worse. WoW right now is optimized for IPC (Instructions per clock) and speed, both of which ryzen are lacking in. It might change with the Ryzen 3000 series, but we'll see when we get there

[andrewjoy]

Worse. WoW right now is optimized for IPC (Instructions per clock) and speed, both of which ryzen are lacking in. It might change with the Ryzen 3000 series, but we'll see when we get there

In the keynote a ( what we assume is ) a Ryzen 5 just beat a 9900k core for core in R15 , so IPC is not a problem for AMD

[Temp name]

In the keynote a ( what we assume is ) a Ryzen 5 just beat a 9900k core for core in R15 , so IPC is not a problem for AMD

We literally know nothing about that chip aside from what AMD told us. I'll wait until reviews, but am cautiously optimistic

[Erous]

Worse. WoW right now is optimized for IPC (Instructions per clock) and speed, both of which ryzen are lacking in. It might change with the Ryzen 3000 series, but we'll see when we get there

Are we sure about this or are you just quoting for 1080p? I'd assume the GPU using DX12 would become the bottleneck at 1440p and 4k, which is what I'm seeing on my machine.

[Amalaric]

Intel's 9000 series are overpriced and AMD's 3000 series are delayed so not so good times in CPU land.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Next generation.. maybe 2 is when things are going to be great.. Intel will over the knee jerk reactions and AMD will have caught up in the very very few places they are behind in.. and then both will have to actually build bigger and bigger nukes in the arm race

[Onikaroshi]

Intel's 9000 series are overpriced and AMD's 3000 series are delayed so not so good times in CPU land.

Can't really delay something that never had a release date.

[chooi]

No problems at all with my Ryzen 2600X at 1440p.

Sure, if you want to have the absolute best go for Intel at a much higher price but that is overkill for WoW. Performance of 2600X and above is more than enough to run the game perfectly fine.

[Salty Maud]

Your target framerate is what matters regarding CPU, not so much your resolution. 4k@60 your GPU has to push ~500 million pixels per second and your CPU has to keep up with running the game logic at 60 fps. 1080p@240 requires your GPU to push the same ~500 million pixels per second but your CPU has to work basically 4 times as hard to keep up with the framerate despite the resolution being only a quarter of 4k and the number of pixels rendered per second being the same. Increase in resolution has negligible effect on your CPU load but increases the demand on your GPU while increasing framerate requires more from both your CPU and your GPU.

For 4k 60 fps ultra gaming you can make do with a lesser CPU than what you'd need for 1080p 144 fps low settings gaming. If you've ever wondered why console games often "opt" to have good graphics and 4k resolution instead of playable framerates, that's why. They have GPU to spare but CPU resources are extremely limited with consoles and their jaguar processors.

[mrgreenthump]

Are we sure about this or are you just quoting for 1080p? I'd assume the GPU using DX12 would become the bottleneck at 1440p and 4k, which is what I'm seeing on my machine.

Yes and no. WoW will still bog down quit a bit in towns. But Ryzen isn't really lacking in IPC and clock for clock it's quite close to Intel. Ryzen's(1 and 2) single core IPC is a tad bit lower(few percentile) though than current Intel. What really makes the difference is the clock speed. Ryzen really currently tops out at 4,3 GHz(4,5 with trickery), but Intel goes happily to 5 GHz. So that is 20% clock speed difference vs the high end Intels.

But if that matters to you is entirely different. At 3440x1440 my 1700 at 3,8 GHz holds 100(monitor limit) fps with ease. In Boralus for example it will get down to 70-80 and in worst places down to high 50s. It's rare that I notice it though, because WoW doesn't have any fast moving objects.

[Temp name]

Are we sure about this or are you just quoting for 1080p? I'd assume the GPU using DX12 would become the bottleneck at 1440p and 4k, which is what I'm seeing on my machine.

Out in the world, your GPU is the bottleneck, but in raids, which is where most people care about performance, your CPU is still the most important thing, since a slow cpu will take forever to do all the draw calls during lust or whatever.

[JRZoid]

AMD does not bottleneck now. And is Quite fast.

Monster L3 Cache. Some good chips and only gets better from here on out.