Tides of Vengeance Part 2 Goes Live January 22, Azerite Armor Updates & Changes

[Kyphael]

Kul'tirans and Zandalari still not playable, I see?

They're really milking the shit out of this like they're the greatest races to ever be added to the game, good grief.

[Zaktar]

Misread this from the front page as Tribes: Vengeance 2 goes live... and got so excited for a moment. Oh well. Still not playing this junk.

[Alopex Major]

Move to wowhead people, mods are doing nothing about the complaints on a wow fanwebsite. Bizarre.

Does WoWHead actually ban complaining? That's nuts. Although the wow reddit did, so I wouldn't be surprised.

[Unlockmyhrt]

Complaining about complaining about complaining...

No complaints just found it ironic

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Complaining about complaining about complaining...

I wasn’t complaining anyone with common sense could see that

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Does WoWHead actually ban complaining? That's nuts. Although the wow reddit did, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Game is fine though......

[Synros]

8.0 - Crying about RNG
8.1 with vendors - Crying about no raid
BoD raid - Crying about Zandalari/Kul Tiran
8.1.5 - Crying about no Stormsong raid
Stormsong raid launch - Crying about Nazjatar
8.2 - Crying about no Azshara raid
Azshara raid - Crying about Vulpera/Mechagnomes
8.2.5 - Crying about next zone
8.3 - Crying about Sylvanas raid
Sylvanas raid - crying about Undead/Worgen allied races
8.3.5 - Crying about next expansion
Reveal - Crying about no Alpha
Alpha - Crying about no Beta
Beta - Crying about no PTR
PTR - Crying about no Pre-patch
Pre-patch - Crying about no Launch
9.0 - Crying about launch problems...

Crying, crying, crying, crying.

I just sum up next year for ya champs. Have fun, I decided to avoid this like hell, reasonable discussion isn't really doable on this site anymore.

Making excuses for AAA companies straight up lying and releasing a game they knew wasn't even remotely close to ready, just so they can scam money off of consumers? Is that really the hill you want to die on?...

[Psygon]

Boycott this garbage

[Blur4stuff]

Not everything I want, but a step in the right direction. I hate having to hang so much on 8.3, but that's where we are.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Making excuses for AAA companies straight up lying and releasing a game they knew wasn't even remotely close to ready, just so they can scam money off of consumers? Is that really the hill you want to die on?...

I wonder where did they lie? Not that I doudt you i just don’t remember any.

[Ophenia]

They're in testing on the 8.1.5 PTR RIGHT NOW, and it has been posted on this very site. Don't expect them before march.

You know Blizzard in 2019 really sucks when they need to "PTR Test" two reskinned races with 3 passive each and 2 customizations.

What do they have to test, actually ? Numbers on the passives ? Who cares, that can be hotfixed in a second.

Edit: Also, do we remember the time where pre-Patch videos were actual pre-patch videos (I really enjoyed the SoO one, described with Garrosh voice-over), and not some out-of-context images described by a lame voice-over ? What happened to those ?

[Onikaroshi]

You know Blizzard in 2019 really sucks when they need to "PTR Test" two reskinned races with 3 passive each and 2 customizations.

What do they have to test, actually ? Numbers on the passives ? Who cares, that can be hotfixed in a second.

Edit: Also, do we remember the time where pre-Patch videos were actual pre-patch videos (I really enjoyed the SoO one, described with Garrosh voice-over), and not some out-of-context images described by a lame voice-over ? What happened to those ?

Apparently Kul'tiran models are messed up lol, you can't display helmets on them and they can't mount someone was saying.

[Thelxi]

The updated conquest system is just smoke and mirrors; lipstick on a pig. There are many things going south with WoW, but deleting PvP vendors to facilitate the grand casino that is PvE is the most blatant beacon of abject corporate greed that has festered in every corner of WoW. What started out as an entirely anticipated peak of greed in Legion, that some saw coming years ahead of time, is now almost a symbol of greed for me that I am having a harder and harder time tolerating.

I've always tried to warn people when I saw the game move in this kind of direction, but now I honestly think we might be at a point of no return where no amount of community enlightenment or frustrated feedback will get the game back to a state of decency. Sacrificing PvP so willingly and stubbornly is very telling, I would assume even to the less critical thinkers. You let this creep up over the years, and now here we are. I hope you enjoy gambling.

/rant_over

[Cavox]

Ok, so a small suggestion. You need to stop complaining about everything or it will become white noise. Keep your complaints for when Activision-Blizzard does something bad.
The game is in a sorry state - we know. People are quitting en masse - we know. Blizzard doesn't care - we know. Try to be objective despite that. If they make something good then admit it, if they make a shitty decision - go ham on it.

I've stopped playing a month after BfA if you're wondering.

[Super Kami Dende]

3. Prove to me it isn't losing players and subs at a higher frequency than WoD.

Prove to me it is. Oh would you look at that. We can't actually either do it. hence the idiocy of constantly moaning about it.

[FelPlague]

I have defended BFA for quite some time. But still no allied races? Loosing faith here.
Rolling my long planned main and experiencing NEW content is what makes it magical.

they have said since launch zandalari and kultiran would be later patch, and when they told us what 8.1 was, they said zandalari and kultiran would be coming in 8.1.5.

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To this one guy defending Blizzard on not having yet released Allied Races we were baited with almost a year ago: Go away. It's taking them an absurd amount of time to release them, and it's becoming ever-apparent that they are being reserved with hopes of reigniting interest into an otherwise dying expansion.

The player-base is wilting, and they're going to wait until it's too late. The longer people stay unsubbed, the easier it will be for them to just forget about WoW altogether.

except we wernt baited
kultiran were not a confirmed allied race till launch
and zandalari were said to come some time after launch.
we were never "baited" with these two races./

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Is it really that hard to just tell us when the allied races will be playable?

This is getting a bit annoying.

they have since blizzcon...
8.1.5
you know... you could watch the video and they would tell you...

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Ok, so what is new except the new raid?

watch the video?
new pvp season
new raid
new M+ season
new azerite traits and ring
new gear
new mogs
new mounts
new recipes
new pets
but this is literally just the raid patch, not a full patch

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still my number one isssue with BFA Traits are just woeful.
sooner the neck opens up new powers the better, Suspect that's when BFA finally turns the corner.

you do know the entire azerite rework is coming in 8.2 right?
going back to artifact style.

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1.) They always told people Zandalari and KT would come later in the expansion.
2.) if someone isn't interested in any of the content of WoW how would a race reignite anything.
3.) Constantly bemoaning about how WoW s dying is just idiocy.

we didnt even know kultiran were going to be an allied race till the expansion launched.

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Too little, too late for me I'm afraid. It's a shame because I have played since launch and in the past 4 or so years have played with my son. When even he is bored, you know something is wrong (he plays Fortnite, for Christ's sake.....a lot). I was hoping the Zandalari and KT races would spark our interest in the game again, but honestly I doubt it will. From the silly choice to require us to play both factions and grind rep on both sides to unlock races, to endless world quest grinding, to repetitive warfronts that shower the player in high end loot (yes, I realize the traits are garbage 99% of the time, it still allows people an edge), this has been an all around terrible launch. I can no longer stand by and blindly defend Blizzard as it runs one of my favorite games into the ground.

At least they picked a good time to do it, what with Red Dead Redemption 2, Anthem, Division 2 and a few other games either having just dropped or will be soon. I can use the $30 a month I spent on our accounts towards those instead. I'm sure I will be back at some point to check and see if it got any better. It needs to shape up fast, or it's gonna crash and burn.

saying "my son enjoys fortnite but gets bored by this game" does not mean a game is bad, that prob means it is the opposite.
i think you took a

"My friend says gordon ramsay's food is shit, and he eats raw sausage meat dipped in pickle juice and mayo, so you know it must be bad"
also really anthem? it isnt even out yet, and their trailers have been nothing but cringe.
also notice how none of those games you mention are MMORPG?
maybe your son just idk... does not like MMORPG?
you cant compare games from different genres, because games may be a million time better then another, but because of the genre someone will like one more then the other.

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Kul'tirans and Zandalari still not playable, I see?

They're really milking the shit out of this like they're the greatest races to ever be added to the game, good grief.

they have literally said for 3 months now that they would be coming in 8.1.5
how are they milking them? they said when they would be released, and that is when they will be released, end of story...

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Making excuses for AAA companies straight up lying and releasing a game they knew wasn't even remotely close to ready, just so they can scam money off of consumers? Is that really the hill you want to die on?...

1. where did they "Straight up lie"
2. scam money? if you really think they scammed you, file a lawsuit, easy money if it is as obvious as you seem to point to it being.

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You know Blizzard in 2019 really sucks when they need to "PTR Test" two reskinned races with 3 passive each and 2 customizations.

What do they have to test, actually ? Numbers on the passives ? Who cares, that can be hotfixed in a second.

Edit: Also, do we remember the time where pre-Patch videos were actual pre-patch videos (I really enjoyed the SoO one, described with Garrosh voice-over), and not some out-of-context images described by a lame voice-over ? What happened to those ?

you mean how they have had to test every race before in the entire history of wow?
also those patch trailers have been replaced with more ingame cinematics, because those trailers were usually just ingame video of the raid.
also what "out-of-context images" are you talking about?
i dont know what you are talking about but for me there is not a SINGLE "out of context image" or IMAGE at all in the video.

[Wrathson]

It is really that hard to read? Or listen? They said races are coming in 8.1.5 in November. Almost 3 months ago.

i want a date. As they are not releasing them on release of 8.1.5 as it seems. They said they're going to come out "after the raid" but not how long after the raid. In the video they just say they will be content of 8.1.5 but not when...

[FelPlague]

i want a date. As they are not releasing them on release of 8.1.5 as it seems. They said they're going to come out "after the raid" but not how long after the raid. In the video they just say they will be content of 8.1.5 but not when...

yes they are coming after the raid...
and 8.1.5 is after the raid...
cause again
its coming out in 8.1.5
they are releasing on launch of 8.1.5
but 8.1.5 comes out after the raid comes out.
also early march.

[AlmightyGerkin]

dat like/dislike bar though

Only reason i went to youtube for this survival guide like - dislike ratio. Wonder if it will pass part 1.

[eduwneso]

Making excuses for AAA companies straight up lying and releasing a game they knew wasn't even remotely close to ready, just so they can scam money off of consumers? Is that really the hill you want to die on?...

I'm sorry, but while the systems being meh in BFA is the developers fault, the expansion releasing earlier than it should is the whiners fault, countless posts in legion about "omg and there will be content drought again, you will see, no expansion until december, release it earlier blizzard omg!!" and a lot of titles and comments just like this one, are what made them try to please this toxic community, with so much whinning and disliking and being so unpolite and stupid, what people will achieve in 2 years is blizzard saying "we are sorry, no matter what we try and apologize for our mistakes you shit on all we do, so wow is cancelled, we are sick of this" and the game this toxic people "love" wait """"""""""""love""""""""""" will come to an end, and that will be the fault of the developers and the community, BOTH.

there is a difference in negative feedback, constructive criticism and being a dick at everything blizzard does, just for the sake of it, and don't deny that there are a lot of people like that, as much as there are people who will say BFA is perfect when is not.

[Torto]

This is another very underwhelming patch release if you don't enjoy raiding. I can see why these videos get disliked to oblivion. Somehow a couple of hours in LFR is supposed to keep me going until 8.2 comes along.

[Phaythos]

It's probably time for me to move on. It could be me, but I can feel the anymore the excitement for a new raid or for new content added :-(