Babies wanted: Nordic countries crying for kids

[Queen of Hamsters]

Imagine this: The U.S. is ranked higher in food security than Sweden! 3nd in the world with only Singapore and Ireland being better.
If you think people have it good in Sweden in terms of meals, imagine they are even better in U.S.!
If you think people in the U.S. are starving, imagine that more people are starving in Sweden (which is 12th in the world)

Source: https://foodsecurityindex.eiu.com/ (scroll a tiny bit down to the .pdf report, page 31. sorry I can't link it better)

Edit: clarification: I said meals not poverty!

That's a measurement to access, affordability and safety... NOT a measurement on how few people live in poverty in the US. The US has more food production, more infrastructure, more people working in those fields. Color me surprised?

Our poor have better quality of life overall, affordable healthcare, money to live on they can spend as they please rather than going into stores and feeling ashamed via food stamps or such. On top of that, measures put in place to ensure people do not go hungry (food banks, charities, authorities) as well as emergency aids. Speaking from experience here coming from a poor household with a mentally ill parent.

Sweden's poverty rate 2018: 1% in/at risk of serious material poverty where one's struggling to cope with unforeseen expenses, can't support oneself. This is across the entire population.
If you narrow it down to count only the unemployed, the poverty is still a whopping low 8%. And yes, they have the entire safety net of Sweden's Socialism to fall back on.

https://qz.com/879092/the-us-doesnt-...loped-country/

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/...ut-everything/

I just love how it's been 4 years since that fateful year of 2015, and yet things still tick as usual here in our oh-so dangerous (to the raging capitalists and alt-right) Socialist Capitalism known as that Sweden.

Biggest news last summer/autumn: Forest fires, and our favorite chocolate milk powder having production issues and thus stores running out. We then went from September to now, this week, without a government. Made no real difference, really, other than getting a severe sense of deja vu whenever watching the news.

[Ealyssa]

We have a similar thing in America

No you don't. Welfare in the US ? That communist idea ? Are you a traitor ?

we embrace immigration

Sure you do buddy



Sure you do

[durenas]

You picked a tiny country with a population of less than 6 million and tried to compare it to a nation of 300 million. What utter nonsense. That's like saying some tiny cult of 20 people is the fastest growing religion on the planet because last year they had five adherents.

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Yet they keep coming in their millions. We must have one hell of a marketing team to pull that off.

Mostly because they don't know any better.

[Super Kami Dende]

Sure you do buddy



Sure you do

I know its hard for you people to distinguish being anti-immigration and being anti-illegal immigration. But there is quite a large difference.

[Felya]

I know its hard for you people to distinguish being anti-immigration and being anti-illegal immigration. But there is quite a large difference.

Yes, one targets the most effective way to eliminate the issue of illegals and the other wants a wall.

[Super Kami Dende]

Yes, one targets the most effective way to eliminate the issue of illegals and the other wants a wall.

It's almost as if a Border wall is a helpful deterrent and has been wanted by Republicans and Democrats for years up until the retarded current Democrat party decided they'd rather forego Border security just to argue against Trump.

[Felya]

It's almost as if a Border wall is a helpful deterrent and has been wanted by Republicans and Democrats for years up until the retarded current Democrat party decided they'd rather forego Border security just to argue against Trump.

Sure, why wouldn’t I trust a meat rubbing specialist in a thread about procreation, talking about retarded political party. You... you seem like you know what you are talking about.

[agentsi]

It isn't a lot though. Relative to their size, Singapore's immigration is like 5 times the US rate of immigration. If you took the same amount of people relative to your population as Singapore does, you're looking at 20-25 million people over 5 years.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ant_population

% immigrants of total population USA: 14.3%
% immigrants of total population Singapore: 42.9%

Hmm.

Looks to me you're pushing lies.

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So if I wanted to move there I could just move there? No.

You obviously don't have any clue about history.

[prwraith]

There's absolutely a long list of men willing to do the deed. The hard part of this is, getting the parents enough money to pay for it, and convincing women to go through with it.

Really it comes down to money though.

[Freighter]

You obviously don't have any clue about history.

Most countries are based on immigration then if we look to history.

[Theodarzna]

Most countries are based on immigration then if we look to history.

What is the precise difference between immigration and invasion?

[Freighter]

What is the precise difference between immigration and invasion?

Are you in invader?

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

I know its hard for you people to distinguish being anti-immigration and being anti-illegal immigration. But there is quite a large difference.

If the US (Republicans) was ok with immigration you’d work hard to reform the immigration process so that it worked, which then would make illegal immigration diminish a lot more than a $17bn wall (+maintenance and repair costs) would do.

But I guess it’s easier to listen to Fox and Trump than thinking for oneself.

[Zython]

It's almost as if a Border wall is a helpful deterrent and has been wanted by Republicans and Democrats for years up until the retarded current Democrat party decided they'd rather forego Border security just to argue against Trump.

[citation needed]

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I know its hard for you people to distinguish being anti-immigration and being anti-illegal immigration. But there is quite a large difference.

How do you know which is which?

[Ealyssa]

What is the precise difference between immigration and invasion?

armed forces ?

[Theodarzna]

armed forces ?

So William the Conqueror is still "The Conquerer" right? It is still the Anglo-Saxon INVASION, saying Immigration is how most countries come to seem to be muddying the waters when it comes to that fact.

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Are you in invader?

Was William the Conqueror a Conquerer or an Immigrant?

[Techno-Druid]

It's almost as if a Border wall is a helpful deterrent and has been wanted by Republicans and Democrats for years up until the retarded current Democrat party decided they'd rather forego Border security just to argue against Trump.

What would a wall do that the fences we have built along the border haven't done? This whole idea goes off the premise that Mexicans and Central Americans have the IQ of 50 and can't find a way under the wall (like those hundreds of drug tunnels), a way over the wall or simply find another way to get into the US.

It also doesn't help that nobody ever actually wants to discuss the geographical details of what a border wall across the US would entail. One example being the Rio Grande, which a river system which passes through several US and Mexican states. It would be very illegal to build over and around rivers for obvious reasons.

[Felya]

Was William the Conqueror a Conquerer or an Immigrant?

You are not the king of England. The question was asked because you are an immigrant. As in, you don’t seem to see a difference between you and invaders or king of England.

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It also doesn't help that nobody ever actually wants to discuss the geographical details of what a border wall across the US would entail. One example being the Rio Grande, which a river system which passes through several US and Mexican states. It would be very illegal to build over and around rivers for obvious reasons.

I think it’s more of that people don’t really get Rio Grande as a cultural icon. It’s why I like to contrast it, with what would happen if the same wall was argued for Canada. Instead of Rio Grande, you are giving up parts of Lake Michigan and Lake Eere.

That’s the issue as well. The parts of Rio Grande that run parallel to the border, would in effect be given to Mexico. Because the wall would be on the US side of Rio Grande, blocking Americans from access to it. In a way it would be paying back Native Americans for selling Manhattan for beads. Because we are giving away Rio Grande and America is paying for it. We don’t even get beads...

[Freighter]

Was William the Conqueror a Conquerer or an Immigrant?

I don't even know who that is nor do I care. I asked if you're an invader, you've immigrated to the US but think other immigrants are invaders? What makes you an immigrant and not an invader?

[RickJamesLich]

Wait America embracea immigration?

The US takes in more immigrants than any other nation on the planet.... so I don't think it's a stretch that we embrace immigration at all.