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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Study Economics and know why this won't work.

    Consider the USA as a large corporation. See the case studies on how they fail.
    You can't/ A government serve the people not to make a profit off a product or service. The whole notion of running government like a business truly speaks of someone who knows nothing of how or what a government does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunksta View Post
    Even if a giant wall was created that spanned the entire border, and we pretend that no one would climb over it or dig underneath it, it still wouldn't fix America's drug problems.
    Fact: most of the drugs that enter this country illegally come in through sea or air ports. The wall would do nothing to stop that. But then idiots like the OP don't care for facts.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by wunksta View Post
    Even if a giant wall was created that spanned the entire border, and we pretend that no one would climb over it or dig underneath it, it still wouldn't fix America's drug problems.
    But not having one only makes it worse.

    And the topic is only regarding the Mexican border, where a great deal of drugs are confiscated... nobody really knows how many smugglers get across, we have no protection.

    Is there any wonder where all that heroin comes from? If you think it's home grown, join Pelosi.

    Ever lived in a city where the drug problems where so rampant? Pelosi doesn't live there, I guarantee you that much.

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    Lies and ignorance. You lost all possible credibility when you accuse people of such outlandish conspiracy theories like the Democrats are in favor of an open border.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    If it bothers you, try another thread. Actually I see about zero defending my president.
    That's because most people who post here have more than one functioning brain cell.

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    Because the emphasis is that not even a person that claims to support Trump, can actually start a thread about the positives his has done. This thread is a mirror of at least two other threads, if that doesn’t explain what is going on... no words that I am aware of will be able to explain.
    So why quote me wishing this pro Trump poster good luck on his pro Trump thread. its like your entire stint with me was a pointless waste of your time if that's all you were trying to convey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    You can't/ A government serve the people not to make a profit off a product or service. The whole notion of running government like a business truly speaks of someone who knows nothing of how or what a government does.
    It is a business, regardless of what your text books say.

    Republicans are a business. Democrats are a business.

    It's all about money .. and power.

    It works both ways.

    Hell, even the police force is a business. They need to generate money constantly. They weigh the crime vs. how much they can earn -- if the crime is "good" enough they pursue. Minor infractions get a pass - not worth their effort. Bigger crimes (even speeding) they will bleed your bank account dry, even take money you wanted to spend on your childrens food.

    A business is a business, if they are due money, they will demand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    But not having one only makes it worse.

    And the topic is only regarding the Mexican border, where a great deal of drugs are confiscated...
    A wall will only stop a small quantity of drugs entering the U.S.

    https://drugabuse.com/featured/drug-...cross-borders/

    Authorities manage to halt many of these attempts, making up 46% of total drug seizures. However, smugglers are limited in the amount of drugs they can transport with these methods, contributing just 6% of the total amounts seized.
    nobody really knows how many smugglers get across, we have no protection.
    "I don't know so you don't know!!" isn't a valid argument.

    Is there any wonder where all that heroin comes from? If you think it's home grown, join Pelosi.
    Heroin is pretty small in comparison to marijuana.

    From 2012 to 2015 the U.S. Border Patrol has seized more than:
    • 8.2 million lbs. of marijuana
    • 32,600 lbs. of cocaine
    • 34,000 ounces of heroin
    • 17,600 lbs. of methamphetamine
    Ever lived in a city where the drug problems where so rampant? Pelosi doesn't live there, I guarantee you that much.
    Your obsession for Pelosi is pretty telling. Are you really concerned with fixing our immigration problem or just trying to make Pelosi out as the enemy?

  8. #68
    The first group that makes an offer to compromise is the group that will lose.

    Trump blinked. Pelosi smells blood.

    He stands no chance.

    Art of the Deal, indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Trump's offer was to temporarily fix problems HE CREATED for a wall that all the statistics say isn't necessary.
    Funnily enough, it seems like a lot of people who hate the idea of the wall are also against ICE doing their jobs of enforcing border laws.

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    I feel sorry for the OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    Lol pro Trump thread is politics sub forum...good luck.
    What's wrong with that if he can argue in good faith he bring people to his side. He won't though which is a personal problem that's fixable. The op isn't a victim and neither are you.
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  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    A wall will only stop a small quantity of drugs entering the U.S.

    https://drugabuse.com/featured/drug-...cross-borders/
    Your article is some freelancers blerp about drugs from Canada. Tropical areas are better for growing plants (South). This seems elusive to yourself. They can be grown in greenhouses in Canada (North), but my guess is that they are more easily found from the southern borders. Think about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    Your obsession for Pelosi is pretty telling. Are you really concerned with fixing our immigration problem or just trying to make Pelosi out as the enemy?
    Its the topic of the thread. And yes, I think Nancy Pelosi is a smelly piece of shit - a disgrace to the the men and women who fought to protect the integrity of the USA. They fought to turn the USA into another Venezuela?

    People like Nancy are bringing this country to the brink of bankruptcy. Trump is trying to curb spending, cut costs with a long term goal.

    Nancy Pelosi is is like EA .. just living for today. No cares for tomorrow. Get money now, worry later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koyz View Post
    I feel sorry for the OP
    I don't see why you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    It the topic of the thread. And yes, I think Nancy Pelosi is a smelly piece of shit - a disgrace to the the men and women who fought to protect the integrity of the USA. They fought to turn the USA into another Venezuela?
    Ugh. "Venezuela."

    Never mind the fact that Democratic policies tend to mirror policies that have been successful in multiple nations across the developed world, but if you realized that, your "Venezuela" narrative would fall apart.

    People like Nancy are bringing this country to the brink of bankruptcy. Trump is trying to curb spending, cut costs with a long term goal.
    Tell me again, what was the political party of the last presidency that ended with a surplus?

    What was the political party of the last presidency that ended in a deep recession?

    Donald Trump is "curbing spending" by cutting trillions of taxes on the rich, shutting down the government (which has cost us billions so far) and on a useless wall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Ugh. "Venezuela."

    Never mind the fact that Democratic policies tend to mirror policies that have been successful in multiple nations across the developed world, but if you realized that, your "Venezuela" narrative would fall apart.
    The debt owed is unsustainable. I'm curious how this "narrative" would fall apart.

    Please elaborate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    The debt owed is unsustainable. I'm curious how this "narrative" would fall apart.

    Please elaborate.
    Democrats ask for things like universal healthcare, minimum wages indexed to inflation and high enough to meet cost of living, and cheaper higher education.

    Things that most of the developed world have implemented without turning into Venezuela in the process.

    Things the US refuses to implement because people like you shriek about "communism" every time.
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  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Democrats ask for things like universal healthcare, minimum wages indexed to inflation and high enough to meet cost of living, and cheaper higher education.

    Things that most of the developed world have implemented without turning into Venezuela in the process.

    Things the US refuses to implement because people like you shriek about "communism" every time.
    Other countries don't have millions of illegals per year demanding public schooling, healthcare, welfare, housing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Your article is some freelancers blerp about drugs from Canada. Tropical areas are better for growing plants (South). This seems elusive to yourself. They can be grown in greenhouses in Canada (North), but my guess is that they are more easily found from the southern borders. Think about it.
    Ecstasy is a synthetic drug.......

    Do some research.

    Its the topic of the thread. And yes, I think Nancy Pelosi is a smelly piece of shit - a disgrace to the the men and women who fought to protect the integrity of the USA. They fought to turn the USA into another Venezuela?
    Do you even know what happened in Venezuela to cause their economic problems or are you just going to spout "evil socialism!!!"

    People like Nancy are bringing this country to the brink of bankruptcy. Trump is trying to curb spending, cut costs with a long term goal.
    Trump has increased spending and reduced revenue with that monster of a tax cut that will add 1.4 trillion to our debt. He's also doubled our deficit spending.

  18. #78
    That wall is just symbolic for racism and intolerance at the moment.

    You aren't ever getting it and you're crushing yourselves in bad rep by doubling down on it.

    Oh, that and Mueller is going to bury your King.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Other countries don't have millions of illegals per year demanding public schooling, healthcare, welfare, housing?
    Illegals demand very little. It's time to return to reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Uh huh .. CNN is devoted to telling everyone about how useless these "archaic" walls are .. but then ..



    HAHAH

    Walls work, eh?
    ROFL.

    Trumpsters are such gullible idiots.

    Those wall prototypes are very very very short segments of "wall". There's literally a hole between the US and Mexico border nearby him. His commentary was on how peaceful the border is, complete opposite of Trump's claims that millions of illegals are rushing the borders.

    Also, as pointed out earlier in this thread, it's already been shown that the wall prototype picked by the Trump team has been successfully sawed through. Any wall built via Trump's chosen design will be filled with holes after the first month of construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    Illegals demand very little. It's time to return to reality.
    There also aren't "Millions per year" so we can throw that claim in the trash as well.
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