900$ budget build please!

[Xecks]

hey all . need a build for 900~ish usd.

parts i have is monitor keyboard and mouse.

just need something that runs wow at 60 fps probably 1080 p.

and whatever is the best bang for the buck.

pretty firm on keeping it as close to 900 as possible but can fudge it a little.

ty in advance you computer gods!

Edit: oh and if you can fit in a ssd that would be good .

[Onikaroshi]

Could do something like https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tvF9ZR

Edit: realized I read your post wrong lol. Fixed it with some faster parts. Only 24 over, but you can go down to a 580 if you really need to.

[Fascinate]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $985.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-22 23:01 EST-0500

985 but you get so much for the money. If you dont immediately need storage space beyond 240gb you can ditch the hard drive putting it at 920 bucks. If WoW is your main game sticking with intel and nvidia are going to be the best choices.

[Xecks]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $985.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-22 23:01 EST-0500

985 but you get so much for the money. If you dont immediately need storage space beyond 240gb you can ditch the hard drive putting it at 920 bucks. If WoW is your main game sticking with intel and nvidia are going to be the best choices.

aye i will have to ask him about the ssd/hd thing. i5 9600k? hmm diddnt know the 9k series was out lol. been so long since i got mine.

also is 450 W enough ?

just curious.

ty for the reply.

[Bryntrollian]

Could do something like https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rJN4QZ monitors kind of up in the air.... but as for keyboard/mouse, unless you're looking for something specific, just grab a keyboard/mouse combo from like logitech for now, you're better off putting money into the PC itself.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($76.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $874.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-22 23:36 EST-0500

He mentioned having a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, but I think this is a better stretch and decent alternative to the 9600k.

[Onikaroshi]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($76.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $874.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-22 23:36 EST-0500

He mentioned having a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, but I think this is a better stretch and decent alternative to the 9600k.

I misread his post lol, thought he needed them, not that he had them. Your build seems good, I'd rather have 16 gigs of 3000mhz then getting a 9600k and having to sacrifice 8 gigs and a bunch of speed. Specially since AMD states that the 3000 series should work great on the b450 boards, so its got upwards mobility. So yea, I vote for yours :P

[Xecks]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($76.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $874.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-22 23:36 EST-0500

He mentioned having a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, but I think this is a better stretch and decent alternative to the 9600k.

ty both @Bryntrollian and @Onikaroshi.

shouldnt there be a cooler? i tried finding one that would fit but i am poop at picking compatible parts.

oh and would it be better performance if i went with a last get 1k something card? would the savings be enough to get something stronger?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dhwJWD has a cooler on it. what do you think?

[Onikaroshi]

ty both @Bryntrollian and @Onikaroshi.

shouldnt there be a cooler? i tried finding one that would fit but i am poop at picking compatible parts.

AMD CPU's come with a pretty good one, intel dropped them, but there's were kind of a joke anyway.

[Fascinate]

aye i will have to ask him about the ssd/hd thing. i5 9600k? hmm diddnt know the 9k series was out lol. been so long since i got mine.

also is 450 W enough ?

just curious.

ty for the reply.

Ya 450w is plenty for that build, that is the updated evga entry level psu also which are better built.

Spending the most on core components like gpu/cpu really are worth it in the long run, 9600k and rtx 2060 are the two parts i wouldnt change in this build.

[Bryntrollian]

ty both @Bryntrollian and @Onikaroshi.

shouldnt there be a cooler? i tried finding one that would fit but i am poop at picking compatible parts.

oh and would it be better performance if i went with a last get 1k something card? would the savings be enough to get something stronger?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dhwJWD has a cooler on it. what do you think?

Most of the 10 series gpus are out of stock and, or extremely overpriced, the RTX 2060 slots between the GTX 1070 TI and the GTX 1080 in most games so you won't get much better value than that.

AMD's boxed cooler is fairly adequate even for a modest overclock on the Ryzen CPU

[Fascinate]

Just want to note, while its nearly a 100 dollar difference between the ryzen 2600 and 9600k that money is well spent. Its the difference between maintaining 60 fps in a raid and not.

[Onikaroshi]

Just want to note, while its nearly a 100 dollar difference between the ryzen 2600 and 9600k that money is well spent. Its the difference between maintaining 60 fps in a raid and not.

2600 has no issues maintaining 60 in a raid, my wife's build has one, hell, she gets 70+ standing on a packed zanadarli temple thing looking out over the distance, at 1440p with everything but view maxed and view at 7

[Fascinate]

2600 has no issues maintaining 60 in a raid, my wife's build has one, hell, she gets 70+ standing on a packed zanadarli temple thing looking out over the distance, at 1440p with everything but view maxed and view at 7

Boralus must be a lot more demanding, when my server is busy i can dip below 70 fps at times with a 5.0ghz 8700k (which is at least 30% faster than a 2600). Stock boost between a 2600 and 9600k is 700mhz, thats quite a large bump especially if this particular person they are building for isnt into overclocking, that speed will show up in minimum fps in raids.

The thing with this build is they can fit a 9600k into the budget, i think it would be a bad idea to sacrifice performance for extra storage/ram/better case etc. Up to them tho.

[Onikaroshi]

Boralus must be a lot more demanding, when my server is busy i can dip below 70 fps at times with a 5.0ghz 8700k (which is at least 30% faster than a 2600). Stock boost between a 2600 and 9600k is 700mhz, thats quite a large bump especially if this particular person they are building for isnt into overclocking, that speed will show up in minimum fps in raids.

The thing with this build is they can fit a 9600k into the budget, i think it would be a bad idea to sacrifice performance for extra storage/ram/better case etc. Up to them tho.

8 gigs is a bit iffy nowadays, we accidentally had 8 gigs running when I put together her new computer because the ram she had didn't like her mobo and it capped out a lot.

[Fascinate]

8 gigs is a bit iffy nowadays, we accidentally had 8 gigs running when I put together her new computer because the ram she had didn't like her mobo and it capped out a lot.

Its more than enough for the vast majority of games on the market, and you can always add more later.

Core components shouldnt be skimped on for "maybe" scenarios.

[Nalera]

Just want to note, while its nearly a 100 dollar difference between the ryzen 2600 and 9600k that money is well spent. Its the difference between maintaining 60 fps in a raid and not.

2600 is probably the best budget cpu right now, 9600k will beat it in gaming but the ryzen 2600 has great value and even beats the 9600k outside of gaming as it has 12 threads vs the 9600k 6 threads.

[Fascinate]

2600 is probably the best budget cpu right now, 9600k will beat it in gaming but the ryzen 2600 has great value and even beats the 9600k outside of gaming as it has 12 threads vs the 9600k 6 threads.

Thats great, but the best gaming cpu for the money can fit into this persons budget.

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Just so people are aware of the differences between these CPU's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKzLPqVWE9c

Ryzen 2600 is slower in most games than a 5 year old intel 4790k. They are not good gaming cpu's, they are for people who do a lot of production work and those who cant fit intel into their budget's.

[Nalera]

Thats great, but the best gaming cpu for the money can fit into this persons budget.

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Just so people are aware of the differences between these CPU's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92byoMgptU

Ryzen 2600 is slower in most games than a 5 year old intel 4790k. They are not good gaming cpu's, they are for people who do a lot of production work and those who cant fit intel into their budget's.

Lol thats not true: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...90K/3955vs2384

That's with more than 200k benchmarks between the two, and you're comparing a cpu which is literally more than twice the cost of a 2600 for some reason.

And if you're going to have programs open in the background, discord, internet etc the i5-9600k is going to bottleneck way easier because its only 6c/6t. On top of that you have to overclock it to get the your moneys worth and you have to buy a new motherboard every time you upgrade your cpu with intel. The ryzen 3000 is coming out soon and will be compatible with b450 motherboard. The 9600k is not a bad choice tho.

[Fascinate]

Lol thats not true: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...90K/3955vs2384

That's with more than 200k benchmarks between the two, and your comparing a cpu which is literally twice the cost to a 2600 for some reason.

And if you're going to have programs open in the background, discord, internet etc the i5-9600k is going to bottleneck way easier. On top of that you have to overclock it to get the your moneys worth and you have to buy a new motherboard every time you upgrade your cpu with intel. They ryzen 3000 is coming out soon and will be compatible with b450 motherboard. The 9600k is not a bad choice tho.

First off, it is true. I have owned ryzen products and they perform about on par with haswell i7's in games. Secondly the overclocking part goes against ryzen here, a 9600k comes with a stock single core boost of 4.6ghz whereas the 2600 is only 3.9ghz. Again ryzen is for budget builds when you cant quite fit intel cpu's in, but in this situation where all you need to do is dip down to 8gb's of ram and add a hard drive later, the choice is easy. If he had a 800 dollar budget i wouldnt be suggesting he do the same, but it turns out he has just enough to fit 9600k and rtx 2060.

[Nalera]

First off, it is true. I have owned ryzen products and they perform about on par with haswell i7's in games. Secondly the overclocking part goes against ryzen here, a 9600k comes with a stock single core boost of 4.6ghz whereas the 2600 is only 3.9ghz. Again ryzen is for budget builds when you cant quite fit intel cpu's in, but in this situation where all you need to do is dip down to 8gb's of ram and add a hard drive later, the choice is easy. If he had a 800 dollar budget i wouldnt be suggesting he do the same, but it turns out he has just enough to fit 9600k and rtx 2060.

So I should take you're word over 200 thousand benchmarks then?