Anime proven capable of qualifying as child porn in conviction of sexual predator

[breadisfunny]

This is a picture of a 5yr old girl. As you can see she's not wearing any clothes. Because you have viewed this, you have committed a thought crime and are going to jail.

actually that's a genderless stick figure drawing.

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Read what I said to the other guy. Government is going way too far here.

oh nos sex offenders can't view porn. HOW TERRIBLE. this is clearly a crime against humanity!
i'm done taking you seriously cause that's all you do is scream about how the government has GONE TOO FAR! when it's just doing what it has done in regards to probation SINCE IT'S INTRODUCTION. but no let's just use this to scream about BIG GOVERNMENT!

[cparle87]

Uh how is child porn life sustaining?

This is my last response to you operating under the believe that you're really just this dense, and not trolling, so here goes. Access to the internet is considered just a step or two below a human right at this point in time. It is completely necessary for functioning in a modern civilization. That the government has the power to decide that any individual cannot access the internet without their permission is North Korea-level of control that should be completely disgusting to any person.

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actually that's a genderless stick figure drawing.

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oh nos sex offenders can't view porn. HOW TERRIBLE. this is clearly a crime against humanity!

Oh nos sex offenders can't access a fundamental human right. Take away all books, magazines, and every other written media from them too, they might misuse that as well. Control every bit of information they have access to. North Korea does it and look how good their civilization is.

[breadisfunny]

I'm confused it seems like the argument is

fuck statistics and past studies across several countries accounting for millions I don't like it.

How about they don't do it at all? that would be fucking AMAZING BUT until you can literally stop all crime what the fuck is the point of arguing all crime should just be stopped instantly? I'm about minimizing risk because we don't live in a perfect world.

So you want to arrest people for signs not for crimes? Well that's just literally saying arrest for thought crimes.

minors can't consent to activities like sex. HENCE CHILD PORN IS ILLEGAL. WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
not to mention the scars it leaves on them. SO YES VIEWING CHILD PORN SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FULL STOP.

[Hilhen7]

again why would you discuss such a topic at the workplace to begin with?

Personally I wouldn't, so...

Ask the person that originally brought it up?

[Big Thanks]

This just poped up on my youtube recommended list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDAYXSk-No0

Should stuff like this be shown outside Japan? loli's and whatnot?
I dont think its appropriate imo.

[Granyala]

then is this verdict wrong?

Absolutely.
No human being has been harmed, he looked at friggin DRAWINGS.

Criminalizing that is utterly idiotic.

[breadisfunny]

hasn't affected me?! Oh my fucking god how I wish it hadn't why don't you go back and fucking read what I said or what I said in the last thread. If some person getting their rocks off to a video would have prevented my abuse I would have rather not been a fucking victim literally the stats show it, literally the studies show it. I don't give a flying fuck what anyone thinks about the fucking facts that it prevents child rape from rising, you have a problem with that? Take it up with facts then say fuck all the studies fuck all the countries that tried this fuck them all and just believe whatever the fuck you want because that makes more sense apparently.

speaking as a person who has been through it who has dealt with it well into my 20s. Anything that reduces child rape is worth it.

you don't hurt children to protect children I don't know why you can't seem to follow basic time lines.

1995 woman burned alive.

2008 man watches it and gets off, after doesn't have urge to burn women...

There wasn't a new woman burned because he got off.

you don't care what anyone else thinks about the facts yet your pointing to them to try and establish your point....am i the only one who sees a problem with your logic here?

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I already ignore all laws i think are dumb.

i hope you like prison. cause your headed for it. also reading your posts your just going on my ignore list now. since it's obvious what your doing.

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And the point has gone completely over your head once again. Imagine for instance a guy is enrolled in AA, he's not allowed to drink anymore. This is like banning him from entering every grocery store in existence because there happens to be alcohol in there, completely cutting him off from the actually necessary, life sustaining things the store also sells.

alcohol isn't life sustaining it's a toxic substance that harms your body. TRY AGAIN.

[Themius]

minors can't consent to activities like sex. HENCE CHILD PORN IS ILLEGAL. WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
not to mention the scars it leaves on them. SO YES VIEWING CHILD PORN SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FULL STOP.

People being held down and set on fire aren't giving consent either. Yet that isn't illegal.

I understand the illegal part; however, it isn't helping anyone.

So your idea is "all of it should be illegal because it scars children even if it leads to 20 more children being raped a month"

versus

"we can't save children who have already been abused, just make that legal to view, at least this way there are only 2-3 cases a month"

Maybe I'm crazy, but I rather less raped kids how about you?

If you rather less raped kids how do you plan to make that a reality without given them an outlet?

[Granyala]

Just because it is a cartoon doesn't mean it isn't evil and it should be illegal to possess. I have to imagine most people would say someone is a racist if they love a cartoon depicting Nazis going around lynching colored people for fun, so i think the same can be said for cartoon child porn and pedophilia. Stop being weird people.

It's a cartoon.

People are free to think and draw whatever they want, no matter how bad in taste it is.
Thought policing (which is essentially what you want) is always wrong.

Only when thought translates into action, does the law have the right to interfere.

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People being held down and set on fire aren't giving consent either. Yet that isn't illegal.
I understand the illegal part; however, it isn't helping anyone.
So your idea is "all of it should be illegal because it scars children even if it leads to 20 more children being raped a month"
versus
"we can't save children who have already been abused, just make that legal to view, at least this way there are only 2-3 cases a month"
Maybe I'm crazy, but I rather less raped kids how about you?
If you rather less raped kids how do you plan to make that a reality without given them an outlet?

Eeh if a real child has been hurt, yes that should be illegal to watch.
The point is to deter people from continued production and consumption not just by punishing the producing side but also the consuming side.

We don't need an "outlet" for pedos past the ERP/animation or drawing stage.
Everything involving real human beings, that cannot give consent should be banned.

[Independent voter]

In Richmond, Virginia, in December 2005, Dwight Whorley was convicted under 18 U.S.C. 1466A for using a Virginia Employment Commission computer to receive "obscene Japanese anime cartoons that graphically depicted prepubescent female children being forced to engage in genital-genital and oral-genital intercourse with adult males".[81][82][83] On December 18, 2008, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the conviction, consisting of 20 years imprisonment.[84] The court stated:

Thus, regardless of whether §1466A(a)(1) requires an actual minor, it is nonetheless a valid restriction on obscene speech under Miller, not a restriction on non-obscene pornography of the type permitted by Ferber. We thus find Whorley's as-applied constitutional challenge to §1466A(a)(1) to be without merit.[85]



It varies state to state. This guy got 20 years.

[breadisfunny]

This is my last response to you operating under the believe that you're really just this dense, and not trolling, so here goes. Access to the internet is considered just a step or two below a human right at this point in time. It is completely necessary for functioning in a modern civilization. That the government has the power to decide that any individual cannot access the internet without their permission is North Korea-level of control that should be completely disgusting to any person.

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Oh nos sex offenders can't access a fundamental human right. Take away all books, magazines, and every other written media from them too, they might misuse that as well. Control every bit of information they have access to. North Korea does it and look how good their civilization is.

porn is not a fundamental human right. try again. also regarding the underlined....keep up the fantasic shitposting. top quality arguments you got there. i remember when people used to put effort into their posts to make them look convincing.

[Granyala]

It varies state to state. This guy got 20 years.

20 years for a few anime pics?
What a farce.

[Themius]

It's a cartoon.

People are free to think and draw whatever they want, no matter how bad in taste it is.
Thought policing (which is essentially what you want) is always wrong.

Only when thought translates into action, does the law have the right to interfere.

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Eeh if a real child has been hurt, yes that should be illegal to watch.
The point is to deter people from continued production and consumption not just by punishing the producing side but also the consuming side.

We don't need an "outlet" for pedos past the ERP/animation or drawing stage.
Everything involving real human beings, that cannot give consent should be banned.

That's what the study noted that they don't condone images of real children but would look to make realistic simulated children. Until that point what should we do? Those countries used to have legal child porn magazines, make those legal at leasts perhaps as they were once legal, that will lower number of new rape cases.

Detering pedos comes down to giving them an outlet. The study showed a decreases in child abuse so the act of it being legal for a time did not lead to production, which one may think it would, but it didn't actually led to the very opposite.

[paragraphgorilla]

Can't wait until they start banning games that let's your murder people. Oh wait, this is America we are talking about, where everyone has a gun. They'd ban breathing air before banning guns.

[Themius]

Pretty sure being held down and set on fire is illegal.

Imagine trying to get over trauma knowing that people are getting off on it.

If it means 50 more people aren't set on fire, I rather go with what produces the least overall harm.

[Daevied]

As usual, Anime oversexualizes underaged girls, all that "lolis" crap is disgusting

[Themius]

As usual, Anime oversexualizes underaged girls, all that "lolis" crap is disgusting

As long as it leads to fewer new victims or a decrease in abuse , that's all that matters, literally.

[Granyala]

That's what the study noted that they don't condone images of real children but would look to make realistic simulated children. Until that point what should we do? Those countries used to have legal child porn magazines, make those legal at leasts perhaps as they were once legal, that will lower number of new rape cases.

Detering pedos comes down to giving them an outlet. The study showed a decreases in child abuse so the act of it being legal for a time did not lead to production, which one may think it would, but it didn't actually led to the very opposite.

Until we develop children that can give consent into things like sexual intercourse, we cannot legalize child porn. Oo

[The Stormbringer]

I mean now it's not, it was for a long time considered to be a mental disorder just like gender dysphoria still is considered a mental disorder by a lot of people. I'm not a shrink so I have no idea why people are turned on by whatever abnormal thing turns them on. I find a lot of sexual fetishes absolutely disgusting. Regardless to whatever turns you on I don't care. If you get turned on by something I don't care if you want to watch an animated version of it as long as it's not hurting others either directly or indirectly. If it fulfills your desire so you don't go out and act on those desires in real life then it should be fine.

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder (mostly about the person feeling they're in the wrong body and that causing a lot of problems), but there's a treatment known as gender reassignment, hormones, etc. At that point, gender dysphoria is no longer an issue because it's been treated.

/random-information-I-got-from-a-trans-person

[breadisfunny]

People being held down and set on fire aren't giving consent either. Yet that isn't illegal.

I understand the illegal part; however, it isn't helping anyone.

So your idea is "all of it should be illegal because it scars children even if it leads to 20 more children being raped a month"

versus

"we can't save children who have already been abused, just make that legal to view, at least this way there are only 2-3 cases a month"

Maybe I'm crazy, but I rather less raped kids how about you?

If you rather less raped kids how do you plan to make that a reality without given them an outlet?

actually themius yes it is. it isn't the 1300's anymore maybe you should read up on recent law. it's called attempted murder/premeditated murder.
self immolation is also a form of suicide which is also illegal. technically.
i never said anything about saving one child for the sake of 20 more being raped your just putting words there that i never typed. i gave you a gold star for the effort to make me look like a monster by blatantly posting false representations of what i actually typed.

i also find it cute your try as hard as you can to downplay the negative consequences by saying "we can't save the current cases only minimize it by making child porn legal even though this still won't stop it." also let's ignore the fact that child porn itself is a scarring experience and requires victims so no there would way more than 2-3 victims a month themius i can see right through your obvious dressing up of your side of the argument to make it seem a better idea than the really terrible idea it is. and phhh who cares about those children it's for the greater good according to themius's argument?
your basically saying either we legalize child porn which WILL STILL HAVE SCARRED VICTIMIZED CHILDREN in the hopes that it will lessen it or just do what we're currently doing and throwing them in prison and hoping the populace there takes care of them.