[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Pann]

So, what exactly should we get angry about? Cruelty to animals? My class has been nerfed?

As a Remainer, if you can't summon up an ounce of anger regarding this, then I question your beliefs.

Why do you need to be angry?

Why? What did you think was going to happen tonight?

[Dizzeeyooo]

Why do you need to be angry?
Why? What did you think was going to happen tonight?

MP's would grow a spine and take control of the process, instead of voting to let the government waste two more weeks after already wasting two and a half years?

As a Remainer

He never was a remainer, he just says now that he voted remain in the referendum

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Why do you need to be angry?

Why? What did you think was going to happen tonight?

What happened tonight is exactly what I expected to happen. That doesn't mean I can't be annoyed that they voted how I expected them to vote.

[Acidbaron]

Okay can some one comfirm that they really just voted to send May back to the EU to talk about the NI border, the one thing they have been adamant about they would not do?

Lol, well guess they really want to blame the EU one more time. What a shitshow.

Well guess the good news is no extension will be granted.

[Pann]

There are lots of things that should have happened over the past 2.5 years, but they didn't. What really makes you think anything will change in the coming weeks?
Remember, what you have to take into consideration is the fact that not only is our government deeply divided, so is our parliament and the people of our country.

As ever, all you have to offer is pie in the sky.

Maybe nothing will change. Or maybe there will be significant changes. Who knows?

However nothing that is said on these boards will make any difference to what happens.

[Kallisto]

Jesus Christ! Calm down.

My post was in reply to yours where you said "...her deal will be voted down on Feb 13, and we'll crash out." as in I don't think that no deal is the inevitable outcome at the moment.

And really no matter what happens we're not going to turn into some third country. The UK is still going to be a great to place live.

Bullshit. A great place to live doesn't destroy the value of its currency. Doesn't bow to nationalist whose views need to be eradicated. By force if necessary and certainly doesn't force you to jump through hoops that were not there for decades just to live and move to neighbouring countries.

[Pann]

Bullshit. A great place to live doesn't destroy the value of its currency. Doesn't bow to nationalist whose views need to be eradicated. By force if necessary and certainly doesn't force you to jump through hoops that were not there for decades just to live and move to neighbouring countries.

You really need to grow up.

[Pann]

Well, I think the bolded is first thing I can agree with you on.

Reading between the lines, what we have seen over the past few days is the Tory party trying heal some of their internal wounds, the future of the country seems to be of little interest to them, as long as they can continue in government after the next GE.

You do understand that the future of the country not being in the interests of the Con party is unlikely to see them re-elected?

[Dhrizzle]

No, currency speculators shorting the pound are cashing in

The people who will lose are those with no money as life will be a fuck of a lot of harder for them.

This isn't a joke.

forthgarthforthgarth cunt fuck commie cunt... do you have anything to contribute? Your precious underclass is well and truly fucked now

It's a joke for Dribbs because like Mogg, Johnson, Farage and others that ushered us in to this mess, he has enough wealth to make some sort of profit from Brexit. Just ignore him please, it literally makes me physically sick to see him taunting people who have little enough and who will have even less if this shit goes through.

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"It is only advisory and has no legislative force" is the only reason why it managed to squeak through.

Like the referendum then...

[Dhrizzle]

https://www.manchesterarndale.com/

That's a shopping centre.

[Dizzeeyooo]

Like the referendum then...

will of da people tho!

[Pann]

Before the next GE, May will be gone (she has already said as much) and Corbyn will remain. Do you really see middle England electing Corbyn as our next PM?

And? Are you suggesting that not only does middle England have the power and numbers to decide a general election but they will think to themselves "This Conservative Party really doesn't care about the country. I think vote for them!"?

And also with middle Englanders mainly being middle class, ie ABC1, wouldn't they be more inclined to be remainers and thus less likely to be happy with the Cons putting the party's welfare before the UK's?

[Dizzeeyooo]

Before the next GE, May will be gone (she has already said as much) and Corbyn will remain. Do you really see middle England electing Corbyn as our next PM?

And? Are you suggesting that not only does middle England have the power and numbers to decide a general election but they will think to themselves "This Conservative Party really doesn't care about the country. I think vote for them!"?

I think Pann thinks you believe the Tories will put "we dont care about you but please vote for us anyway" as a sentence in their election manifesto

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

I think Pann thinks you believe the Tories will put "we dont care about you but please vote for us anyway" as a sentence in their election manifesto

I'm sure there are some seats that would still work in.

[Kallisto]

And? Are you suggesting that not only does middle England have the power and numbers to decide a general election but they will think to themselves "This Conservative Party really doesn't care about the country. I think vote for them!"?

Considering you only need around 30% of people in the right places to win a damn undemocratic (FPTP is not democratic) election in this country then thinking they're just going to be gone is not something to bet on.

Not only that but such an election will come too late to protect the rights that now a majority of us are desperate to keep and should never be up to the whims of the people anyway.

[Dizzeeyooo]

I'm sure there are some seats that would still work in.

Can absolutely see people stupid enough to elect people like Dorries/Bridgen/Francois voting for that, yep

[Pann]

Considering you only need around 30% of people in the right places to win a damn undemocratic (FPTP is not democratic) election in this country then thinking they're just going to be gone is not something to bet on.

Not only that but such an election will come too late to protect the rights that now a majority of us are desperate to keep and should never be up to the whims of the people anyway.

Oh, here we go again. Yeah, yeah, it's all a conspiracy!

[Dizzeeyooo]

Absolute pleasure to see Boris Johnson being held up as the almighty twat that he is live on sky news

[Pann]

Hasn’t middle England decided the outcome of our general elections for decades past? There is not a snowballs chance in hell that middle England will vote for a 1970s style socialist PM.

What's your point? You started off saying that people were stupid enough not to notice that the Con party doesn't care about the country but now you appear to saying that the alternative being worse. Which is it?

And didn't the last socialist PM, in the 1970s funnily enough, result in us going cap in hand to the IMF? What did they call us? The sick man of Europe?

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Conspiracy theory? May won the last GE on around 30% of the vote.

At least try to keep up.

I think you'll find it was 45.6% of the vote. But 45.6% that's the same as 30%, right?!?

[Acidbaron]

Absolute pleasure to see Boris Johnson being held up as the almighty twat that he is live on sky news

Rides of on her unicorn, yeah they keep on believing that.

Might ask pann about the unicorn store he seems to be riding plenty into fantasy land lately.