The next hero got leaked (again)!

[ophion1990]

https://twitter.com/OverwatchNaeri/s...63014578335745

Saw this post by Tedy2003 over on Reddit, Vampiremetalhead also provided the datamine link: https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=1633...f=431&rand=120

Serenityunlimted also mentioned that there seems to be info on the hero rework in there.

Just added the names to give credit where credit is due.


Either way, looks like Anduin is coming next!

PS: I don't know how to make this pretty, maybe @Nerraw can hijack this to tidy it up or I guess he'll make his own thread to put it on the front page or something.

Edit: and maybe change the title from "leaded" to leaked. >.< Thanks!

[Nalorakk]

Uugggghhhhhhh not another Alliance hero. The last Horde hero was Garrosh back in August 2017.

There's been Maiev and Yrel (and to a minor extent just because human, Whitemane, even if she isn't H or A) and now Anduin too :////

Where's Vol'jin? Or someone else far more interesting than Anduin?

[Knight Meta]

Uugggghhhhhhh not another Alliance hero. The last Horde hero was Garrosh back in August 2017.

There's been Maiev and Yrel (and to a minor extent just because human, Whitemane, even if she isn't H or A) and now Anduin too :////

Where's Vol'jin? Or someone else far more interesting than Anduin?

Maiev is the head of the Wardens and they are neutral, she may be a Night Elf but in lore at the moment they seem to be both allied with the Horde and the Alliance.

Yrel is not a part of the Alliance - She went all "Deus Vult" in current lore and I don't want anyone to relate her too the Alliance - That they had the nerve to add her instead of Maraad as well is just a shame.

[Gasparde]

Maiev is the head of the Wardens and they are neutral, she may be a Night Elf but in lore at the moment they seem to be both allied with the Horde and the Alliance.

Maiev currently sides with the Alliance as she is fighting off the Horde in the current Darkshore Warfront.

Yrel is not a part of the Alliance - She went all "Deus Vult" in current lore and I don't want anyone to relate her too the Alliance - That they had the nerve to add her instead of Maraad as well is just a shame.

Although Yrel went super Hitler after WoD she and her people were still considered part of the Alliance up to that point. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Alliance people would still consider her one of their peers even after going full Hitler. Like, Yrel is pretty much the Alliance pendant to Sylvanas and Sylvanas is still considered to be Horde.

[Wildberry]

Oh nice. The most unlikeable character in the Warcraft Universe made it into HotS. Meanwhile, Grom Hellscream is nowhere to be seen.

[Nalorakk]

Maiev is the head of the Wardens and they are neutral, she may be a Night Elf but in lore at the moment they seem to be both allied with the Horde and the Alliance.

Yrel is not a part of the Alliance - She went all "Deus Vult" in current lore and I don't want anyone to relate her too the Alliance - That they had the nerve to add her instead of Maraad as well is just a shame.

I like how you mixed and matched which iteration of the lore you're representing.

Maiev is definitely acting in service of the Alliance currently by defending Darkshore.

Yrel is an alliance character whose screentime was almost solely through the alliance WoD experience through which she was an ally. Her current standing on H v A is unknown, but something tells me she wouldn't screw her nose up when she hears the golden haired priesty boy king leads the alliance. I'm going to relate her to the alliance until it's proven she would never serve them in any capacity otherwise. Also, she was advertised on launch as the alliance character for the Alterac Valley event, so you know...

[michaello]

I think his skin looks too lol topic, its already 3rd hero I don't like. Press F to pay respect to hots but its time to let it go

[RadasNoir]

Oh nice. The most unlikeable character in the Warcraft Universe made it into HotS. Meanwhile, Grom Hellscream is nowhere to be seen.

I have never understood the appeal of Grom Hellscream. The guy led his own people to drink demon blood, twice, but gets treated as a hero just because, mere moments after being hopped up on demon blood, he finally killed the demon whose blood he kept chugging. Even in an alternate universe he still ended up becoming a tyrant, and no longer had the excuse that being high on demon blood made him do it.

Garrosh may have been a racist monster but at least in his own twisted way he thought he was doing what was best for his people and living up to the "legacy" of his father. I'm still glad they chose him instead of Grom to represent the Hellscream name, and as The-Shan mentioned, there are too many similarities between the two to add both to the Nexus as separate heroes. The most you might be able to hope for is a Legendary skin that alters Garrosh's voice and appearance to that of Grom's.

[melzas]

Happy for Anduin, hope he is a healer! (what else could he be anyway?)

And yeah, I don't want Grom or Tirion, despite people asking for them a lot. They are too similar to Garrosh/Uther.

[RadasNoir]

Happy for Anduin, hope he is a healer! (what else could he be anyway?)

In the leaked image of the alternate skin for him, it looks like he has a sword? Could still be a healer, obviously, but giving him a melee weapon would seem to imply he's the sort of healer that gets into the thick of combat as well. Does he actually do much fighting in BFA?

For my part, whenever I thought about them adding Anduin, I thought it would be neat if they referenced how he works in Hearthstone, capable of using both Holy and Shadow magic. I don't think that's something that shows up in WoW itself, though, so that's probably not the direction they'll go with him.

[RH92]

I have never understood the appeal of Grom Hellscream. The guy led his own people to drink demon blood, twice, but gets treated as a hero just because, mere moments after being hopped up on demon blood, he finally killed the demon whose blood he kept chugging. Even in an alternate universe he still ended up becoming a tyrant, and no longer had the excuse that being high on demon blood made him do it.

Garrosh may have been a racist monster but at least in his own twisted way he thought he was doing what was best for his people and living up to the "legacy" of his father. I'm still glad they chose him instead of Grom to represent the Hellscream name, and as The-Shan mentioned, there are too many similarities between the two to add both to the Nexus as separate heroes. The most you might be able to hope for is a Legendary skin that alters Garrosh's voice and appearance to that of Grom's.

Uhm, what kind of argument is this? You only want overpowered and perfect characters?

Grom is THE Orc. No other notable Orc personifies the race as well as him. He is just a pretty damn good Warrior with some relatable flaws. He doesn't have to be complicated and complex character to be good. He is all about victory or death, he is just a simple mind that doesn't strive for world peace. No, he is a selfish bastard who drank blood just to cleave even more skulls and chop some demigod legs. All he wanted was glory and respect of fellow Warriors.

He is a simple character who sacrificed his sanity and freedom to prove he is the best.

[RadasNoir]

I don't mind imperfect or even outright villainous characters, but they have to have something that I can actually sympathize with, at least on some level. As I alluded to above, I have an easier time relating to someone like Garrosh, who tried his best for his people, but went about it the wrong way, and may have even started down that path as a result of being heavily criticized prior to actually even doing anything. Meanwhile, when it comes to my criticisms of Grom, I was actually coming at if from the perspective of the other orcs, why they would venerate someone whose desire to be a "great warrior" led him to taking short cuts and even selling out his race on multiple occasions. If anything, your description of what you see as his strengths just further sours my view of him, as it just makes him come across as a simple-minded brute, to me.

Ultimately, I suppose it's just a personal preference kind of thing. I'm just not a big fan of the whole "proud warrior race guy" kind of character, whether they're an orc, a Klingon, or what have you.

[matrix123mko]

Where are his eyebrows?

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Uugggghhhhhhh not another Alliance hero. The last Horde hero was Garrosh back in August 2017.

There's been Maiev and Yrel (and to a minor extent just because human, Whitemane, even if she isn't H or A) and now Anduin too :////

Where's Vol'jin? Or someone else far more interesting than Anduin?

I want Nathanos.

[RH92]

I don't mind imperfect or even outright villainous characters, but they have to have something that I can actually sympathize with, at least on some level. As I alluded to above, I have an easier time relating to someone like Garrosh, who tried his best for his people, but went about it the wrong way, and may have even started down that path as a result of being heavily criticized prior to actually even doing anything. Meanwhile, when it comes to my criticisms of Grom, I was actually coming at if from the perspective of the other orcs, why they would venerate someone whose desire to be a "great warrior" led him to taking short cuts and even selling out his race on multiple occasions. If anything, your description of what you see as his strengths just further sours my view of him, as it just makes him come across as a simple-minded brute, to me.

Garrosh lost all his charm the moment they turned him into racist pig. However I still think he wasn't a 'true' Orc due the mental weakness he had.

Grom is a simple-minded brute because he is meant to be. All the overpowered drama queens talking bullshit about world peace are boring. Grom is Hero because his personal journey reflects the whole race - the moments of glory and all the struggles. In short, his own story is the story of the Orcs. He didn't want to change the world, he wanted to conquer it because it was the only way he knew and understood.

All I am trying to say, sometimes character doesn't have to show great deeds. Sometimes it is enough if character represents a certain attitude. Problem why some visionary characters doesn't resonate with certain people is because those characters rely on changing the rules of the game to achieve control. Which is basically a thing every single character wants. Traditionalist characters know how to live in current world, therefore they don't need to change it.

Grom is a symbol of raw and primitive energy that lies within everyone. Some are just afraid to acknowledge it.
I think this video kind of explains it well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUyvRVtrpBs

[Wildberry]

he'd be terribly similar to Garrosh, dont you think?

Two words: Melee Assassin.

[jackofwind]

Oh nice. The most unlikeable character in the Warcraft Universe made it into HotS. Meanwhile, Grom Hellscream is nowhere to be seen.

Med'an says hi.

[Maljinwo]

Is it Vol'jin? No?

Meh


Is it Blackthorne? No?

Meh

[Dartz1979]

Uugggghhhhhhh not another Alliance hero. The last Horde hero was Garrosh back in August 2017.

There's been Maiev and Yrel (and to a minor extent just because human, Whitemane, even if she isn't H or A) and now Anduin too :////

Where's Vol'jin? Or someone else far more interesting than Anduin?

when are they gonna freakin add ysera...

[Nalorakk]

when are they gonna freakin add ysera...

I remember seeing this really neato idea of Ysera as a specialist.

The gist of it was that when Ysera was in the game, the battleground became split between Emerald Dream and Nightmare, and it was her role to upkeep the Dream and push it forward for her team's advantage (it carried some kind of buff for her allies or debuff from her enemies, I forget). She would mostly shy away from direct combat but similar to Alex could go dragon form to turn a fight.

I honestly thought it was one of the best community suggestions I'd ever seen, that would've been awesome, except Blizzard gave up on Specialists :'[

[Nerraw]

I remember seeing this really neato idea of Ysera as a specialist.

The gist of it was that when Ysera was in the game, the battleground became split between Emerald Dream and Nightmare, and it was her role to upkeep the Dream and push it forward for her team's advantage (it carried some kind of buff for her allies or debuff from her enemies, I forget). She would mostly shy away from direct combat but similar to Alex could go dragon form to turn a fight.

I honestly thought it was one of the best community suggestions I'd ever seen, that would've been awesome, except Blizzard gave up on Specialists :'[

Neat idea. She would probably fit as a support under the upcoming system, same as Abathur and Lost Vikings.