You're reading into it what you want to read into it. I'm telling you its not there. Accept it or not.
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Not sure where I said anything about climate change effects on human society beyond saying we're not all going to die, but good job projecting.
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Ok I was really avoiding having to explain the grammar of my post but it's pretty clear that its ambiguous to some so when I say 'I think it’s worth pointing out that the debate over climate change to the extent that it exists...' the phrase 'to the extent that it exists' points to 'the debate over climate change' not 'climate change' which is itself part of the phrase 'over climate change' defining 'the debate'.
I'm not debating the existence of climate change. I'm debating our ability to meaningfully impact its current trajectory. Reading comprehension people, its a thing. Prepositional phrases point to their object, not other prepositional phrases.
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If you don't believe in climate change, then why is it so hard for you to assist people in making the world a better and cleaner place?
What is so awful about trying to mitigate the problems facing our next few generations?
"I don't care as long as it doesn't affect me." Little do you know, it already is affecting you.
I think the adults don't panic enough about climate change.
Kids just do it right. After all, it is their future.
I think you underestimate humans' ability to survive. And the climate is going to keep changing even if you knock out all fossil fuel production. We should be focused on mitigating its effects. No that's not me arguing we should do nothing with regards to greenhouse gas emissions, I'm just being realistic.
Conservation of the environment is common sense, be it replanting the forests that provide us with materials, food, and oxygen; keeping the oceans clean, and preserving ecosystems.
What I take issue with is the notion that it's some imminent, world ending event that we must impose massive "clean energy" taxes or ban oil drilling to combat. No, at this rate the world isn't going to end in the couple hundred years. Technology is going to be innovated and environment friendly alternatives to technology we already use will eventually become affordable anyways. No reason to not use what we have at the moment.
Maybe you should spend less time trying to form passive aggressive responses, and actually spend time understanding why someone is responding to you. No where did I debate or accuse you of debating the existence of 'climate change'. I SPECIFICALLY said 'that humans are greatly hastening climate change in a manner that isn't normal for the Earth, and the numbers as far back as we can go (which is far) support this.' in response to you saying:
I'm not sure if you avoided a retort because you don't have one, or if you just default to mincing words instead.It’s naturally happening on its own already. The question becomes how much can or should we slow that. Make no mistake however, even if humans were erased from the planet tomorrow, it would still be warming. It’s the hubris of humans that we assume we’re the cause of any change on this planet. It’s gonna do what it wants regardless of what we think.
I think the vast majority worry about it to much. Unless you are willing to decimate most life on the planet you are not going to make a noticable difference.
Nobody is saying the world is going to end that's imminent, they're saying the point at which we can't do something about it changing is imminent.
Unless we reach the point where those technologies can't do anything about it, which is the point of concern above.
No one alive today will experience it (except for small local things that do happen without climate change, just slightly more often now).
Interestingly people who panic about this are usually the same people who are for physical globalization, one of the worst things in terms of climate effects.
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Lol? These choices have been in the making since over a hundred years ago and the children of today won't really be paying for it, they will see changes gradually happening, but only future generations that we will never meet will truly pay for it if nothing is done.
And that's assuming we can do something about it.
No. It could literally destroy our planet if ignored.
I think people in governmental positions actively downplaying and opposing climate change activism should be shamed and removed from their positions. We're not talking about personal gain, we're literally talking about whether this planet will be habitable in the next couple hundred years.
I don't think the people who downplay climate change understand why people are worried about it. Increasing the temperature of the earth by an overall one degree Fahrenheit has already created a ton of domino effects. What the hell do you think is going to happen in five degrees? What will weather and climate even look like? Do we really want to irreparably damage the planet out of apathy?
If anyone should be caring most about climate change it should be children. While it's our(adults) current problem to combat, one way or another the result will be their problem to live with.
They're more likely to suffer through the worst of it than we are, so yeah, they should be worried.