The main reason I'm voting for Bernie Sanders...

[Leadsop]

No, it doesn't. It only helped with Clinton back in the day once because the two people who split the vote were sharing Conservative Values, and you damn well know that.

In short, it helps whomever candidate has the least competition when their competition is split, and that doesn't matter which side is what. Again, you damn well know that. I'd argue that Dump got the vote in the primaries that way because it was so torn up between 8 establishment Republicans and Dump. I think Dump rarely ever went above 40% in the total votes in each state durring the primary until it was down to him and/or Cruz.

There was enough missinformation out there to get one section of the voters to give up voting, and another section to go green... that hurt in Dems in 2016

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Source Plz

Also, Democratic Socialist isn't the same as Stalinistic Socialism. If she did say that, she's talking about Stalinism... not Democratic Socialism.

Source

^^^^^ Source

[breadisfunny]

Most Millennial I know that voted for Stein weren't stupid enough to vote for Stein in a swing state, and instead did it in a state like California or New York. Like, if you voted for Stein in New Hampshire, I think you're an idiot.

I would also make the argument that 4 years of Trump followed by a "progressive who gets things done (lul)" is potentially a better long term result than 8 years of a centrist who wants to reward donors.

But I can only speculate as to how the latter would've gone.

i am proud to say i voted for jill stein in wisconsin since last i checked the whole point of a voting system was to vote for the candidate you deem to be your choice. not due to some retarded peer pressure to vote for the "right candidate" because your afraid the other side will win.

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Also, just noticed (as I went ot this thread via the main page topic listings...)

THIS

BELONGS

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POLITICS

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then be an adult and report it to be moved to the politics forums instead of typing in all caps about it.

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So you want to vote not just a normal Socialist to office, but a full blown Communist? That's OK Ill take my US free and Capitalist, Bring on 4 more years of Trump.

just like other trump supporters you are completely UNABLE to tell the difference between socialism and communism.

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He has never had a real job in his life he has been working for the government since 1981 and before that he was basically a professional atavist, so No he has not ever really worked a day in his life.

because having a government job isn't a job? wtf kind of bullshit am i looking at here?

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America will never be a socialist country.

it already technically is. unless you want to get rid of medicare and medicaid.

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That reeks of someone who can't get their shit together. I wouldnt let someone with that background do my taxes forget voting him into some kind of office.

because someone's financial situation totally dictates their intelligence and what functions they are capable of. LOL.

[Stretchie]

I want to hear Rush Limbaugh have an aneurysm from his inevitable rant against socialism. I want to feast on pubby tears one last time.

One of the greatest moments of my life was election night 2016 when Hilary threw a temper-tantrum and locked herself in her room and cried herself to sleep, hearing her genuine tears as her ballet of lies finally came tumbling down, it almost made made all that suffering worth it. Easily top five experiences a human being can have.

So how about you who are you voting for this time around, not that I give a shit.

I love how you select who to vote for almost entirely based on who suffers most and causes the most suffering in others. The fact that I've heard this many times and it isn't an uncommon viewpoint says a lot.

[Moadar]

because someone's financial situation totally dictates their intelligence and what functions they are capable of. LOL.

Being broke and having succeeded at nothing sure does.

[mvaliz]

then be an adult and report it to be moved to the politics forums instead of typing in all caps about it.
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You can do both, you know. Which I did.

EDIT: Which, as expected, the thread hasn't been moved yet. >_<

[korijenkins]

Alot of us who were military at the time felt a bit odd with Hillary. When addressed by the family members of the dead from Benghazi literally basically gave a very point blank I dont care. Whether or not any politician does is irrelevant most of them arent dumb enough to imply/outright say it. This line of direct not giving a fuck is uncomfortable from someone who would be Commander in Chief. That was my principle opposition to her.

Did someone say...

BENGHAZI??? (Foams at mouth while masturbating vigorously to Rush Limbaugh's rolls)

[Thelxi]

What if a republican Nominee polls best and has the chance to beat Trump? Or is it Blue or nothing? Do you think about any policies and values of "whoever polls best" or do you just hate Trump so much that anyone will be better for you?

I don't hate Trump, but yes there are many people in both parties I would support if they had a serious chance of kicking him out of the white house in 2020.

Also it is interesting that you see a conflict here, and I'm not going to call you stupid for not seeing it, but clearly many people that are concerned with values and policies will be voting against Trump before much else.

[McFuu]

I doubt Bernie has much of a chance to win. The big issue with him is even though he has been politically active since the 2016 election, he has proven no one cares anymore about his policies. He doesn't make the news, OCP has more pop than him and everyone sees her as a 1 term psycho.

[Daedius]

Voting in someone that'll be dust by 2020! \o/

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I doubt Bernie has much of a chance to win. The big issue with him is even though he has been politically active since the 2016 election, he has proven no one cares anymore about his policies. He doesn't make the news, OCP has more pop than him and everyone sees her as a 1 term psycho.

Welcome to media manipulation.

[HumbleDuck]

You sir are a terrible human being and your kind is the reason why we can't have nice things.

[Vatrilian]

The United States will never vote for a socialist period. He had his chance and Hillary stole it from him.

[Gestopft]

The big issue with him is even though he has been politically active since the 2016 election, he has proven no one cares anymore about his policies.

Tell that to all of the 2020 candidates tripping over each other to make their platform closer to his.

He doesn't make the news.

Except for those times where he successfully pressured Disney, and later Amazon, to give raises to their workers. And when he was working to get his resolution on the war in Yemen through the Senate. I mean, he's not the new sexiness (in any sense of either of those words), but he certainly hasn't disappeared.

[Vatrilian]

I doubt Bernie has much of a chance to win. The big issue with him is even though he has been politically active since the 2016 election, he has proven no one cares anymore about his policies. He doesn't make the news, OCP has more pop than him and everyone sees her as a 1 term psycho.

He is busy behaving the opposite of a socialist. Getting payed for speeches and buying 3 vacation homes.

[Kyphael]

I'm generally a centrist, leaning more towards liberal candidates with some or few conservative reservations... but how the fuck does a socialist candidate take the Presidential oath? Seriously. It goes against the very fundamentals of being a socialist.

I know Trump used the Republican party as a vehicle until Republicans actually started bending over to him and his 30% ratio of voters, but how do Democrats let Bernie call himself a Democrat?

I recognize the two party system is corrupt, but they get away with it because voters are stupid enough to think Bernie Sanders is a democrat.

[Vatrilian]

I'm generally a centrist, leaning more towards liberal candidates with some or few conservative reservations... but how the fuck does a socialist candidate take the Presidential oath? Seriously. It goes against the very fundamentals of being a socialist.

I know Trump used the Republican party as a vehicle until Republicans actually started bending over to him and his 30% ratio of voters, but how do Democrats let Bernie call himself a Democrat?

I recognize the two party system is corrupt, but they get away with it because voters are stupid enough to think Bernie Sanders is a democrat.

You know he has the highest approval of any republican president within the party is probably why they are "bending over for him." Bernie and his policies are the Democrat party now. There is no difference between democratic socialism and the so called blue dog democrats of the old JFK wing. It is about punishment and retribution by the have nots against the haves. The victims rising up against the largely white, straight, male world. Redistributing that income to make it more fair for those that were oppressed. The Democrat party has finally taken off the mask that they always hid behind of the little guy and embraced huge government and control over every aspect of your life.

[Shadowferal]

Trump's approval rating is based upon illiterate bigots that seem to favor russian interests over their own country's interests.

[Gestopft]

how do Democrats let Bernie call himself a Democrat?

Because given his current popularity, running as an independent would hand 2020 to the GoP on a silver platter.

I recognize the two party system is corrupt, but they get away with it because voters are stupid enough to think Bernie Sanders is a democrat.

More like they wish more Democrats were like Bernie Sanders.

[Vatrilian]

Trump's approval rating is based upon illiterate bigots that seem to favor russian interests over their own country's interests.

I guess that's near half the country. The senate intelligence committee has found that no collusion has existed between the Trump campaign and Russia. That they had no effect on the election. Bob Mueller will find exactly the same thing and expect a huge bump from that. This has been one of the largest hoaxes perpetrated on the American people in modern American politics. How is it in Russia's interest that we bombed Syria, increased Military spending by over 100 billion, tear up the arms treaty that we had with them, increase NATO spending, and arm Ukrainians?

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

I think Trump has a good chance of winning again, considering the economy and his fanboys. It's very unfortunate.

Keep in mind that 2016 only had 60% voter turnout, most of those who didn’t vote have been reported to be Democrats because all the XYZ surrounding Hillary Clinton, Trumpists vited even after all the BS around him back then ...wouldn’t be surprised at all if people have grown sour on him since then, he’s earned his lemons!

[Kyphael]

You know he has the highest approval of any republican president within the party is probably why they are "bending over for him." Bernie and his policies are the Democrat party now. There is no difference between democratic socialism and the so called blue dog democrats of the old JFK wing. It is about punishment and retribution by the have nots against the haves. The victims rising up against the largely white, straight, male world. Redistributing that income to make it more fair for those that were oppressed. The Democrat party has finally taken off the mask that they always hid behind of the little guy and embraced huge government and control over every aspect of your life.

Way to sweep all democrats together under the rug. That's like when those same democrats you're describing say all Trump republicans are card carrying KKK members and uneducated coal mining southerners who suffer from from the gum disease of gingivitis.

I don't like Hilary Clinton anymore than I like Steve King. Both represent radical ends of the political spectrum. They're caricatures, but at least they're honest about it, opposed to disingenuous try hards like Trump and Bernie.