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    I think there is a lot of echo chamber, but the trap is that I feel like there's actually a lot of opportunity for someone to go the opposite way from seeing an echo chamber as well. I feel like there's a growing community of contrarians, especially among late teens/early 20s adult men that want to go against the grain and are willing to make that a part of their identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGodPleaseNo View Post
    I've only seen peterson, shapiro never seemed relevant to me because he's a US Conservative not a UK Conservative so its like chalk and cheese and not relevant to me.

    Peterson seems like a pritty nice guy. Probly thinks to deeply about things at the sake of his own happiness but I like his stance on stop and search being useless and will naturally be seen as discriminatory. And I think he's on point when it comes to young men and some young women feeling disefected and without goals and that's likly what's driving our generation into the arms of extremists.

    He just comes a cross as a standard clinical psychologist thats just being shat on because he took a libertarian stance on an issue to begin with.
    Peterson is a book salesmen who basically sold out to make money nothing he says is smart and most of his known statements are lies and border on hatred of women Ben is in the same boat for the most part and uses being Jewish as a defense for being racist.

    Neither are deep thinkers but in the sea of I goin the lectures I’ve seen from both I’d say Benny Hinn has a better act.

    But Then again Tony Robbins has the same kind of act and people think he’s a genius too. Meh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Peterson is a book salesmen who basically sold out to make money nothing he says is smart and most of his known statements are lies and border on hatred of women Ben is in the same boat for the most part and uses being Jewish as a defense for being racist.

    Neither are deep thinkers but in the sea of I goin the lectures I’ve seen from both I’d say Benny Hinn has a better act.

    But Then again Tony Robbins has the same kind of act and people think he’s a genius too. Meh!
    Why does he hate women?

    Thing is, to me, all of this is basic idoltery.

    Your idiot is another man's messiah.
    And your messiah is another man's heretic.

    That's just human nature. No matter how much you are exposed to differing views, those views still differ, if you hold something to be fundementaly self evident, any one who disagrees is naturally an idiot and an idiot stands no chance to convince a man other wise.

    So you have two sides, both wrong on somethings, both right on others, but as they hold the position of the idiot messiah, the only outcome from any message they have is division.

    The only time we as a species ever come to consensus is when something is mesuarbaly true and infinatly repeatable, Which is rare for any political or social ideology to achieve, especially when there all flawed and outdated creations in our modern time.

    And when I say measurably true, I mean by the layman, True self evidence in a way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    What are some sources you have read, watched or listen to that you DO NOT agree with or are convinced in anyway from?

    For me in no particular order...
    How is that even possible dude? Who do you agree with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGodPleaseNo View Post
    Why does he hate women?

    Thing is, to me, all of this is basic idoltery.

    Your idiot is another man's messiah.
    And your messiah is another man's heretic.

    That's just human nature. No matter how much you are exposed to differing views, those views still differ, if you hold something to be fundementaly self evident, any one who disagrees is naturally an idiot and an idiot stands no chance to convince a man other wise.

    So you have two sides, both wrong on somethings, both right on others, but as they hold the position of the idiot messiah, the only outcome from any message they have is division.

    The only time we as a species ever come to consensus is when something is mesuarbaly true and infinatly repeatable, Which is rare for any political or social ideology to achieve, especially when there all flawed and outdated creations in our modern time.

    And when I say measurably true, I mean by the layman, True self evidence in a way.

    Why does he hate women. I don’t know

    As far as idolatry yeah I don’t get into that whether I really agree with anyone. That said I don’t think he’s the devil either. Just some dude who sells shit.

    But hey I respect what you’ve said here. I think it rings mostly true.

    I’ll always stop short of my opinion on my opinion vs what everyone else should have an opinion of.

    My rule is people I like aren’t always people I agree with and people I agree with aren’t always people I like.

    I also think it’s better to hear people out if they are being sincere so you know if you agree or disagree and why.

    But I hate stupidity and I hate stupid people that harm others. So I guess I hate everyone

    Stupidity is knowing better and not doing better. Not the same thing as ignorance. Everyone is guilty of it but those that work it out I think are admirable especially if it’s to help the themselves by helping the world.

    Ignorance can be cured Stupidity can’t because it’s a choice.

    This is why I don’t believe there is any such thing as echo chambers or bubbles. Just preference and those that want to push.

    Which leads to a lot of stupidity especially those that know better and know so little but say so much. That’s mostly who’s on my list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simulacrum View Post
    How is that even possible dude? Who do you agree with?
    How is it possible to know the list I given consist of people full of the most shit and views I completely agree with? Because I’m a deep thinker and I’m not swayed by bullshit artist.

    Who do I agree with? Mike Brady who said wherever you go there you are.That’s pretty deep and True changed my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simulacrum View Post
    How is that even possible dude? Who do you agree with?
    I've often wondered this.

    I'm assuming doctor Amadeus sits on the American left?

    Correct me if I'm wrong I'm just going of the posts I've seen.

    But all I'm ever exposed to is the American right, talking on YouTube, I can name 6-7 political commentators that twitter keeps telling me are evil scum. But I never see any one of the same exposure on the left, Certainly non that last anymore than a couple months.

    Other than meme videos showing creepy and wierd people I've never seen or met any of these hard left types, Maybe it's because I'm nearly 30 and im not the demographic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Who do I agree with? Mike Brady who said wherever you go there you are.That’s pretty deep and True changed my life.
    Really? Tell me more about this visionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGodPleaseNo View Post
    I've often wondered this.

    I'm assuming doctor Amadeus sits on the American left?

    Correct me if I'm wrong I'm just going of the posts I've seen.

    But all I'm ever exposed to is the American right, talking on YouTube, I can name 6-7 political commentators that twitter keeps telling me are evil scum. But I never see any one of the same exposure on the left, Certainly non that last anymore than a couple months.

    Other than meme videos showing creepy and wierd people I've never seen or met any of these hard left types, Maybe it's because I'm nearly 30 and im not the demographic.
    I’m American left Democrat and Liberal socially and fiscally, but plenty of people on the left full of shit too. But they get lumped in with me in my supposed Echo Chamber so it wouldn’t make sense to list them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simulacrum View Post
    Really? Tell me more about this visionary.
    I got to stop assuming everyone has seen American pop. Mike Brady the Brady Bunch I was serious but being silly too. I don’t follow anyone, not 100%.

    You can’t go wrong with Mike Brady though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Why does he hate women. I don’t know

    As far as idolatry yeah I don’t get into that whether I really agree with anyone. That said I don’t think he’s the devil either. Just some dude who sells shit.

    But hey I respect what you’ve said here. I think it rings mostly true.

    I’ll always stop short of my opinion on my opinion vs what everyone else should have an opinion of.

    My rule is people I like aren’t always people I agree with and people I agree with aren’t always people I like.

    I also think it’s better to hear people out if they are being sincere so you know if you agree or disagree and why.

    But I hate stupidity and I hate stupid people that harm others. So I guess I hate everyone

    Stupidity is knowing better and not doing better. Not the same thing as ignorance. Everyone is guilty of it but those that work it out I think are admirable especially if it’s to help the themselves by helping the world.

    Ignorance can be cured Stupidity can’t because it’s a choice.

    This is why I don’t believe there is any such thing as echo chambers or bubbles. Just preference and those that want to push.

    Which leads to a lot of stupidity especially those that know better and know so little but say so much. That’s mostly who’s on my list.

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    How is it possible to know the list I given consist of people full of the most shit and views I completely agree with? Because I’m a deep thinker and I’m not swayed by bullshit artist.

    Who do I agree with? Mike Brady who said wherever you go there you are.That’s pretty deep and True changed my life.
    I think part of the issue is loyalty.

    Like politically I'm a one nation Conservative as you know. I belive Benjamin Disraeli was broadly right, but I'm not so loyal to him that I would defend his outdated ideals of empire, he believed empire could be used as a vehicle for good for the impoverished around the world. But he had I belive a good heart and good intentions and was right in most other things.

    But the Conservative party like the Labour Party is a broad church. It Contains traditional Conservatives, nationalists, some populists, new right regan/thatchites and bunches of other strands of the right and center right. As well as my faction of one nation. And they all fight for power in the party and the winner dictates the manifesto.

    Loyalty would dictate that if the party is headed by a reganite or a populist I should support and agree with them. But a reganite and a populist is as much my natural enemy ideologically as a communist, and my closest ally in such a fight would most likely come from a socialist ironically.

    But too many people are towing the party line, in the belife that if they support something they don't really agree with from a different faction inside there "church" then they will get support in turn when they hold the pulpit.

    Maybe they will, more likely they will just get stabbed in the back.

    A more important problem I feel is, it's selling your soul. It makes enemy's where you don't need to have any, and loses allies you could have had, it creates hard factions with hard lines, make politics more about factions winning than what's best for the individual problem under debate.

    Take for example health care. As a one nation Conservative I am 1000000% in support of a national health service that's Completly free. A reganite is against that, a socialist is for that. Who should i allie with? Seems obvious to me, but to many it appears not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGodPleaseNo View Post
    But all I'm ever exposed to is the American right, talking on YouTube, I can name 6-7 political commentators that twitter keeps telling me are evil scum. But I never see any one of the same exposure on the left, Certainly non that last anymore than a couple months.

    Other than meme videos showing creepy and wierd people I've never seen or met any of these hard left types, Maybe it's because I'm nearly 30 and im not the demographic.
    Geographical area and local demographic obviously have an impact on exposure to political leanings, but only a small group of people is truly 'hard' left or right, so naturally the chance of finding such people is smaller than more moderate ones.

    I roughly place myself as a left-centrist, slightly progressive. But I'm not too shabby to find out what the 'other side' thinks; I can get along and argue perfectly fine with for example moderate right people, as long as their views are within reason. Therefore I also sometimes listen to some right-ish leaning youtubers or speakers. I can dig around and find some reason, like in J Peterson. While I find his view on e.g. the second world war deeply flawed, I can find some reason in him talking about finding goals in life; they are not very politically charged.
    But likewise, I sadly also encounter a lot of terribly inaccurate videos. Pure scientific illiterate crap like PragerU for example, it really grinds my gears. Not per se their stance on political issues, but their way of trying to 'prove' it. They have a way of terribly mixing up statistics and defy science, and that makes me not respect them. Same goes for several anti-EU videos/youtubers. I'm perfectly fine with people not liking the EU if given some decent reasoning. But so incredibly many of these videos are filled with false information ("EU is undemocratic", "EU is ran by globalists that want to >replace< nationalists", "EU is not for ordinary people", "strangers will decide how I live my life"), while just scouring over the various official EU websites, you can find information that shows otherwise, from laws to guidelines on all kinds of topics. But they are not willing to do so, they just shout their narrative as loud as possible, and once again that makes me lose respect for them. And let's not speak about the comment section....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arenis View Post
    Geographical area and local demographic obviously have an impact on exposure to political leanings, but only a small group of people is truly 'hard' left or right, so naturally the chance of finding such people is smaller than more moderate ones.

    I roughly place myself as a left-centrist, slightly progressive. But I'm not too shabby to find out what the 'other side' thinks; I can get along and argue perfectly fine with for example moderate right people, as long as their views are within reason. Therefore I also sometimes listen to some right-ish leaning youtubers or speakers. I can dig around and find some reason, like in J Peterson. While I find his view on e.g. the second world war deeply flawed, I can find some reason in him talking about finding goals in life; they are not very politically charged.
    But likewise, I sadly also encounter a lot of terribly inaccurate videos. Pure scientific illiterate crap like PragerU for example, it really grinds my gears. Not per se their stance on political issues, but their way of trying to 'prove' it. They have a way of terribly mixing up statistics and defy science, and that makes me not respect them. Same goes for several anti-EU videos/youtubers. I'm perfectly fine with people not liking the EU if given some decent reasoning. But so incredibly many of these videos are filled with false information ("EU is undemocratic", "EU is ran by globalists that want to >replace< nationalists", "EU is not for ordinary people", "strangers will decide how I live my life"), while just scouring over the various official EU websites, you can find information that shows otherwise, from laws to guidelines on all kinds of topics. But they are not willing to do so, they just shout their narrative as loud as possible, and once again that makes me lose respect for them. And let's not speak about the comment section....
    I think in the majority most people are center-left, center or center-right. And most people want the same thing, and have good intentions and are disagreement is about how to get there.

    But the hard left and hard right are so apposed. That they can't be part of that and that's why usually we cast them out. Recently they have both come through the back door into mainstream politics and us as ultimately amicable people have forgotten how to cast out unwanted guests on our sides of the house. And worse the media in its need for views, laps up the conflict and sensationalism this causes, that makes them look in charge and our complicity on both sides makes them look more popular than they are.

    Which is unfortunate as you and I, would rather be solving the issues than shouting at each other and getting nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Why does he hate women. I don’t know
    This essentially proves you live inside your own echo chamber.

    One can dismiss any attempt by yourself at undermining one of these figures because all you do is call them names which you fail to substantiate.

    There's is no substance to your criticisms - if one can call them that - because you are clearly unable to have substance to your accusations. And when confronted with counter points to them, you retreat back to your usual "Yea I don't really care that you don't agree me with. That person is [insert label of choice] and that's that"

    What further proof do you need that you're encapsulated in your own bubble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGodPleaseNo View Post
    I think part of the issue is loyalty.

    Like politically I'm a one nation Conservative as you know. I belive Benjamin Disraeli was broadly right, but I'm not so loyal to him that I would defend his outdated ideals of empire, he believed empire could be used as a vehicle for good for the impoverished around the world. But he had I belive a good heart and good intentions and was right in most other things.

    But the Conservative party like the Labour Party is a broad church. It Contains traditional Conservatives, nationalists, some populists, new right regan/thatchites and bunches of other strands of the right and center right. As well as my faction of one nation. And they all fight for power in the party and the winner dictates the manifesto.

    Loyalty would dictate that if the party is headed by a reganite or a populist I should support and agree with them. But a reganite and a populist is as much my natural enemy ideologically as a communist, and my closest ally in such a fight would most lolly come from a socialist ironically.

    But to many people are towing the party line, in the belife that if they support something they don't really agree with from a different faction inside there "church" then they will get support in turn when they hold the pulpit.

    Maybe they will, more likely they will just get stabbed in the back.

    A more important problem I feel is, it's selling your soul. It makes enemy's where you don't need to have any, and loses allies you could have had, it crests hard factions with hard lines, make politics more about factions winning than what's best for the individual problem under debate.

    Take for example health care. As a one nation Conservative I am 1000000% in support of a national health service that's Completly free. A reganite is against that, a socialist is for that. Who should i allie with? Seems obvious to me, but to many it appears not.

    I think loyalty is a dangerous thing. I also think under taking an adult associations is too. Because I believe that we are also who we commit ourselves to.

    That said, I know monolithic thinking is rare in the way most imagine. Because among any group it’s hard to get all to agree to go along.

    I’m Christian for example all my life. I take that seriously and as a Christian I take the hits too. Especially when things happen in my faith I am ashamed. I don’t push myself or faith on people, but I accept If people know and the criticism, all of it. But I’m not going to stop being a Christian unless I felt that way, which I don’t and never will. I’m not going to change that to be hip or cool. I don’t care if it’s popular or not it’s deep and part of who I am.

    And It’s a choice to follow even when I disagree with my faith or question it.

    Now if I did leave And I could, I wouldn’t be branded a traitor, but if It did I accept that too. I made my choice as an adult

    So as with anything like that I take my commitments seriously as an adult and I don’t make snap decisions.

    I learned everything I could about my ideology and party I joined beforehand, the rules and what is involved, what the exit looked like. The good bad and ugly.

    I did all this before I decided so is it a loyalty thing to me? No I don’t think so

    Because I knew then and now what path I was on. If it ever came down to a loyalty or oath I’d know and knew what I signed up for.

    However being a Democrat isn’t like a faith you don’t take an oath or pledge but all the same I know what being a Democrat is which isn’t Liberal or Conservative it’s both and more. It’s just a political party specifically is about Democracy and going from that forward that people could rule together for the better if all.

    That’s changed and shifted over the couple hundred years, but that’s because there is more than one kind of Democrat just like there.

    Just like there is more than one kind of Republican.

    Now ideology such as Liberal that is a philosophy and it goes with whatever you are Liberal About it’s considered left. But like political party there’s are more than one kind of liberal as it relates to methods

    My point is that’s all it is. Serious yes but requires perspective.

    I don’t think it has a damn thing to do with anything outside of those specifics.


    So if you’re a Republican Conservative and right it’s just that.

    If we oppose one another at least we know where we stand and where we don’t. Because there are layers some not anymore exclusive than another.

    I agree with guilt by association but I think it’s more intelligent to know what our association are or aren’t and what those layers mean.

    The world is black and white and has nuance.

    Some can’t be bothered with details and to think. Some see no reason for it.

    I think the most important thing is for a person to know where they stand regardless to weather. Because it helps to recognize others even when they stand for nothing or something or both or are just feeble opportunist.

    As I said I’m A Democrat Liberal fiscally and socially. Some see that as their friend some their enemy. Both might be right. I can only tell you what kind of man I am and it is my actions and you that decides what you think of me. Same with me or anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    This essentially proves you live inside your own echo chamber.

    One can dismiss any attempt by yourself at undermining one of these figures because all you do is call them names which you fail to substantiate.

    There's is no substance to your criticisms - if one can call them that - because you are clearly unable to have substance to your accusations. And when confronted with counter points to them, you retreat back to your usual "Yea I don't really care that you don't agree me with. That person is [insert label of choice] and that's that"

    What further proof do you need that you're encapsulated in your own bubble?
    Well you refuse to see it from my perspective and hand wave it. It’s not a bubble or an echo chamber it’s just you not accepting reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saninicus View Post
    I got every one that I don't agree with on ignore. Yes, I know, terrible joke. But I've hardly seek out sources I don't agree with much. A subject has to really interest me for me to actively seek out sources to begin with. I'm also lazy.

    For politics I try to keep a neutral view since you have to be blind not to see bias in many of the stories. Not defending trump before some NPC's rise up. He and his administration blow.
    I block stupid people or bullshit artist. People I might disagree with not often. Unless they just jump in the stupid end of the pool regardless of politics.
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    I block stupid people or bullshit artist.
    How'd you get past this error?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saninicus View Post
    No one's on my ignore lost. Not even crazies like sarahtasher and elba. Only sarahtasher and pospospos have come close to gracing it. Oh and elba...can't forget elba.

    I wonder how many people's list I'm on?
    I have 4 on my list and it doesn’t have anything to do with their ideology. I never agree with you on anything but I’ve not put you on ignore. So I don’t know.

    Elba cracks me up and I agree with him most of the time Sarah is ok by me don’t know what she does all the time but
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    I think loyalty is a dangerous thing. I also think under taking an adult associations is too. Because I believe that we are also who we commit ourselves to.

    That said, I know monolithic thinking is rare in the way most imagine. Because among any group it’s hard to get all to agree to go along.

    I’m Christian for example all my life. I take that seriously and as a Christian I take the hits too. Especially when things happen in my faith I am ashamed. I don’t push myself or faith on people, but I accept If people know and the criticism, all of it. But I’m not going to stop being a Christian unless I felt that way, which I don’t and never will. I’m not going to change that to be hip or cool. I don’t care if it’s popular or not it’s deep and part of who I am.

    And It’s a choice to follow even when I disagree with my faith or question it.

    Now if I did leave And I could, I wouldn’t be branded a traitor, but if It did I accept that too. I made my choice as an adult

    So as with anything like that I take my commitments seriously as an adult and I don’t make snap decisions.

    I learned everything I could about my ideology and party I joined beforehand, the rules and what is involved, what the exit looked like. The good bad and ugly.

    I did all this before I decided so is it a loyalty thing to me? No I don’t think so

    Because I knew then and now what path I was on. If it ever came down to a loyalty or oath I’d know and knew what I signed up for.

    However being a Democrat isn’t like a faith you don’t take an oath or pledge but all the same I know what being a Democrat is which isn’t Liberal or Conservative it’s both and more. It’s just a political party specifically is about Democracy and going from that forward that people could rule together for the better if all.

    That’s changed and shifted over the couple hundred years, but that’s because there is more than one kind of Democrat just like there.

    Just like there is more than one kind of Republican.

    Now ideology such as Liberal that is a philosophy and it goes with whatever you are Liberal About it’s considered left. But like political party there’s are more than one kind of liberal as it relates to methods

    My point is that’s all it is. Serious yes but requires perspective.

    I don’t think it has a damn thing to do with anything outside of those specifics.


    So if you’re a Republican Conservative and right it’s just that.

    If we oppose one another at least we know where we stand and where we don’t. Because there are layers some not anymore exclusive than another.

    I agree with guilt by association but I think it’s more intelligent to know what our association are or aren’t and what those layers mean.

    The world is black and white and has nuance.

    Some can’t be bothered with details and to think. Some see no reason for it.

    I think the most important thing is for a person to know where they stand regardless to weather. Because it helps to recognize others even when they stand for nothing or something or both or are just feeble opportunist.

    As I said I’m A Democrat Liberal fiscally and socially. Some see that as their friend some their enemy. Both might be right. I can only tell you what kind of man I am and it is my actions and you that decides what you think of me. Same with me or anyone.

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    Well you refuse to see it from my perspective and hand wave it. It’s not a bubble or an echo chamber it’s just you not accepting reality.

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    I block stupid people or bullshit artist. People I might disagree with not often. Unless they just jump in the stupid end of the pool regardless of politics.
    i see your point i think,though im not a republican, not by any stretch of the imagination, i am a UK one nation conservative, and loyal to the queen so the notion of republicanism is not in my dictionary.

    but what im trying to say, is that, as we both know our party's are made up of many philosophy's. but some of those philosophy's actually find better allies in the oppositions philosophy's on individual issues, as a one nation conservative who believes in a national heath service as i gave as an example, it would debase me to go against the ideal just to fulfill loyalty and duty to a party.

    were seeing this play out as we speak in the UK with 8 labor resignations and 3 conservative resignations this week to form an independent separate bloc, because they have realized that as center-left and center-right they are better friends than with the further left corbynites and further right EU-sceptic populists of there original party's. what they believe to be good and right, has more importance than blind loyalty.

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    It's disheartening to see people living in an echo chamber in my area. I help seniors and am often in their homes. Many of them watch Fox News 24/7. Nothing else. No other news on TV, online or anywhere else.

    They live in an alternate reality. One couple in particular (80+) are legit panicked about a dem winning in 2020 because that means the country will be destroyed by socialism. They are essentially doomsday planning. They also did this several years ago under Obama because they were convinced he was going to declare martial law, confiscate guns, end voting, etc...

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    I read a lot of r/The_Donald. It's helped me realize just how batshit some of these internet people are. Also, it's really been an exciting experience in witnessing the effects of bubbles first hand, especially if you've had the opportunity to watch the thing evolve from pre-election to now. It's like watching a snowball roll downhill as the group self-selects itself to be crazier and crazier. There's probably a researcher somewhere who's working on a hell of a paper.

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    So it got me thinking what about you what do you do to make sure you are exposed to new ideas or even have your views changed.
    i post here, where I can read things from people across a broad range of countries, education, sobriety and seriousness. Where nobody gives a damn that I'm Professor Bungeebungee, and I don't have to be -- I can be just some grumpy old bastard, and people are free to tell me to fuck off or call me wrong. People post clear support for their positions less often than I would like, and too seldom with relevant quotes, but this is one way I may see a story that might otherwise slip by me because the site is blocked here. It allows me to see how people who aren't essentially 60 year old professionals are talking about things, and to observe changes in language use.
    With COVID-19 making its impact on our lives, I have decided that I shall hang in there for my remaining days, skip some meals, try to get children to experiment with making henna patterns on their skin, and plant some trees. You know -- live, fast, dye young, and leave a pretty copse. I feel like I may not have that quite right.

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    I've definitely ensured that I listen to both sides on a regular basis, and I often find myself disagreeing with both. Radical centrist ftw!

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