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  1. #141
    Its very hard for the US to get involved because politicians have learned a HUGE lesson from Bush and Iraq that if they don't do it right, there are severe consequences. The risk vs reward evaluation says it is VASTLY better to take some mild criticism for not intervening in Venezuela rather than get destroyed politically for trying and getting it wrong.

    As a result, extremism will now be emboldened and spread.
    TO FIX WOW:1. smaller server sizes & server-only LFG awarding satchels, so elite players help others. 2. "helper builds" with loom powers - talent trees so elite players cast buffs on low level players XP gain, HP/mana, regen, damage, etc. 3. "helper ilvl" scoring how much you help others. 4. observer games like in SC to watch/chat (like twitch but with MORE DETAILS & inside the wow UI) 5. guild leagues to compete with rival guilds for progression (with observer mode).6. jackpot world mobs.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Or the history Abhrams/the US have with providing 'aid' to these sort of countries.
    You keep saying this but ignore the notion of simply requesting a third party to inspect these supplies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Nah nah, see... I live by one simple creed: You might catch more flies with honey, but to catch honeys you gotta be fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oplawlz View Post
    You keep saying this but ignore the notion of simply requesting a third party to inspect these supplies.
    Or they could just release all the gold venezula keeps in the UK. If you're speaking of alternatives.

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    When you are too poor to be a significant oil investor and they accuse you of being a shill.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Nah, you just lick the boots of the rich, is it fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigby View Post
    As soon as the US goes in, everybody will kick up a storm about 'imperialism' and being world police. Especially if they can use it as an excuse to smear Trump.
    Bingo bongo bango

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Or they could just release all the gold venezula keeps in the UK. If you're speaking of alternatives.
    Who is that going to hurt really? The powerful elites in Venezuela probably have various accounts all over the world. In the end, you are just hurting the people of Venezuela. In fact, the elites will use the gold theft to rally support in their own nation.
    TO FIX WOW:1. smaller server sizes & server-only LFG awarding satchels, so elite players help others. 2. "helper builds" with loom powers - talent trees so elite players cast buffs on low level players XP gain, HP/mana, regen, damage, etc. 3. "helper ilvl" scoring how much you help others. 4. observer games like in SC to watch/chat (like twitch but with MORE DETAILS & inside the wow UI) 5. guild leagues to compete with rival guilds for progression (with observer mode).6. jackpot world mobs.

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by ctd12345 View Post
    videos of humanitarian aid trucks being set on fire

    what a fucking wreck
    Wo Wo Wo Wo. Hold the thread....

    Is this true and who set them on fire?

    You NEVER attack aid workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGodPleaseNo View Post
    Wo Wo Wo Wo. Hold the thread....

    Is this true and who set them on fire?

    You NEVER attack aid workers.
    In communist shitholes you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Who is that going to hurt really? The powerful elites in Venezuela probably have various accounts all over the world. In the end, you are just hurting the people of Venezuela. In fact, the elites will use the gold theft to rally support in their own nation.
    So why not release the gold?

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by oplawlz View Post
    You keep saying this but ignore the notion of simply requesting a third party to inspect these supplies.
    Gilral is probably celebrating the burning of the trucks. Those damn cia backed operatives totally deserved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazuli View Post
    Bingo bongo bango
    The truth about the reall intent of the US still hurts peoples feelings too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettySweet View Post
    Gilral is probably celebrating the burning of the trucks. Those damn cia backed operatives totally deserved it.
    lol, you're way to salty over me calling you out over your support of Mr.Abram. Is it fun to make stuff up?

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Strangebrew View Post
    In communist shitholes you do.
    Fucking beyond immoral and disgusting.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Which is what happens every time the US intervenes, letting a known war criminial do it will sure work out.


    The axis did attack the US, ignorance is not a new thing it seems for those people. And its fun how you all keep ignoring the US history of the Americas.
    Ah, yes, I remember USA intervening in Yugoslavia. War criminals after that had a tendency to be prosecuted.

    USA was involved in war long before Germany declared war on it. The convoys over Atlantic, for example.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    No it’s not so either you have a profound ignorance of history or you know better and are trying to fly one by. Germany had internal strifes so did half the planet. We got Hitler because he attacked his neighbors with little or no response from the international community.


    Except Venezuela attacked none at all stop conflating.

    This is about politics an internal issue it’s non of our business.
    You mean internal strifes like in Ukraine, which led to Ukraine being armed with american weapons? Btw, Germany's internal strifes seemed to include two other countries and finally became "not internal" only when the third one was involved. I also seem to have noticed that this is 2019 and the Western world is not looking kindly at "internal strifes" anymore, which involves autocrats killing their citizens in order to cling to power.
    P.S.
    Well, Panama also didnt declare war on anyone, yet was invaded too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Ah, yes, I remember USA intervening in Yugoslavia. War criminals after that had a tendency to be prosecuted.

    USA was involved in war long before Germany declared war on it. The convoys over Atlantic, for example.
    Are you honestly ignorant about everything the US did in the America/Middle east? Vietnam? You have no idea who Abhrams is? Or was all of it justified? Putting a war criminial in charge of venezula is totally fine with you?

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Are you honestly ignorant about everything the US did in the America/Middle east? Vietnam? You have no idea who Abhrams is? Or was all of it justified? Putting a war criminial in charge of venezula is totally fine with you?
    Might is right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Are you honestly ignorant about everything the US did in the America/Middle east? Vietnam? You have no idea who Abhrams is? Or was all of it justified? Putting a war criminial in charge of venezula is totally fine with you?
    The one in charge of Venezuela, at least for a time, is going to be the self-announced president Guaidó or is there some secret plan I do not know about?
    And my point was that sometimes you have to intervene, but fuck that, USA is bad, wanna steal oil, bla bla bla. Something like that?

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by ctd12345 View Post
    In defensible. Who ever set aid trucks alight isn't worthy being called human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    The one in charge of Venezuela, at least for a time, is going to be the self-announced president Guaidó or is there some secret plan I do not know about?
    And my point was that sometimes you have to intervene, but fuck that, USA is bad, wanna steal oil, bla bla bla. Something like that?
    No, the guy in charge of the US intervention.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Abrams


    And you know damn well the US is not intervening for the good of people, or have you forgotten the 50+ times it already went wrong in South/central America?

  18. #158
    if only this dumb of trump let his mouth closed it would be all a lot easier...
    but he played the imperialism card and fucked up all, yay....

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Why wouldn't President Maduro want the people to receive food aid? How does it hurt him?
    They have received food aid. American media neglects to mention that other countries, who aren't speaking of toppling the current government like it's a stroll in the park, have had their aid received.

    Russia, for example, sent food aid, and it was received with no question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XangXu View Post
    When you send troops into a region that is home to the most popular, most fanatical, and most cult-like religion yes.

    Venezuela isn’t that. Here you have a clear enemy and a side the people can rally to.
    You're a clown if you think invading another country to topple their leader and put a new one in power is EVER a good idea.

    We've been doing this for the past 50 years and it's literally never worked out. We did it to Chile decades ago, which was one of the most stable countries in South America, and they're only just now recovering from the instability we created.

    History unequivocally disagrees with your take.

  20. #160
    aid relief is often including a lot of smuggled weapons and other aid to rebels/insurgents.

    its an old cia tactic that they have used for many many decades whenever they destabilized countries/regimes from the shadows.

    im sad that the people suffer because of the greedy tards.

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