Far left democrats and SJWs are scaring off moderates like me.

[Kreuger]

There no white communities in the country that have the widespread poverty that black communities have. a key component of the systematic racism poor blacks experience in this country is economic.

Perhaps
Doesnt change the fact that there are alot of poor white aswell, blacks may very well have it worse, doesnt make it any better for those white that are poor aswell.

[Quaade]

"Ultra-left." definitions are indeed relative. In my country, most of those considered "ultra-left" would be considered centrist. Bernie Sander would be considered a centrist. AOC would be slightly left of the center.

[Kreuger]

I think pretending that the first part can be taken out of context to have a different meaning than he obviously intended is a little disingenuous. Don't you? You don't actually think he thinks white people can't be poor, do you?

Granted, now that you are on a new account with only 2 posts, I have to seriously question the integrity of any of your posts here.

Ofc you have to take the whole quote for what it is, just thought it could have been phrased a bit better


Just started my account, been a lurker for years. We all have to start sometime.

I dont mind you questioning me

[Najnaj]

I've been a Democrat as long as I've been voting (since voting for Kerry back in 2004), but this new wave of ultra-left leaning SJWs who are trying to make me feel ashamed for being a white male or not knowing the correct "pro-nouns" when talking to a LGBTQ is starting to wear thin on me.

I'm a Democrat, but I'm am as center leaning as possible. At this point I'd probably consider myself an Independent over a Democrat now.

I am:

Pro choice, pro guns, pro socialized healthcare, anti-wall but pro stricter immigration policies, pro-marijuana legalization, pro gay marriage/rights, pro death sentence, pro green energy, I think climate change is a serious problem that we must address, I am for small government but I am also for more corporate regulation. I want higher taxes for the rich but at the same time recognize that we WILL lose businesses here to other countries if we keep taxes high.

Most of my interest aligns with the Democrats, but this new wave of snowflakes who think I'm inherently evil because my ancestors may have owned slaves is keeping me at bay. I may vote Republican in the future if we get an actual sensible one to run.

Or you can just not get your news from Fox/CNN. There are no far left people with the Democrats. It is a centrist party and most of them are slightly to the right, a couple are slightly to the left. If you think Sanders, a very traditional social democrat, is far left you do not know what you are talking about.


If you look through the policies of the last great Republican president Dwight D. Eisenhower you can see what the Republicans used to be and surprisingly you can also find bits and pieces of Sanders and Cortez in those policies. We like to think that Kennedy stopped segregation but it was actually Eisenhower who did most of the work. He kept the marginal tax very high (higher than Cortes is suggesting) and used to money on infrastructure that has made America proud til this day. He kept the new deal alive against the right wings wishes and the US had a period of unprecedented growth.

[araine]

I've been a Democrat as long as I've been voting (since voting for Kerry back in 2004), but this new wave of ultra-left leaning SJWs who are trying to make me feel ashamed for being a white male or not knowing the correct "pro-nouns" when talking to a LGBTQ is starting to wear thin on me.

I'm a Democrat, but I'm am as center leaning as possible. At this point I'd probably consider myself an Independent over a Democrat now.

I am:

Pro choice, pro guns, pro socialized healthcare, anti-wall but pro stricter immigration policies, pro-marijuana legalization, pro gay marriage/rights, pro death sentence, pro green energy, I think climate change is a serious problem that we must address, I am for small government but I am also for more corporate regulation. I want higher taxes for the rich but at the same time recognize that we WILL lose businesses here to other countries if we keep taxes high.

Most of my interest aligns with the Democrats, but this new wave of snowflakes who think I'm inherently evil because my ancestors may have owned slaves is keeping me at bay. I may vote Republican in the future if we get an actual sensible one to run.

We have tried the centrist candidates and DNC have pushed that on us for a longtime the result is democrats basically wiped out across the nation in state and local government.

We need to embrace the medicare for all proper gun control fix the climate issues and be done with it, anything less is just doomsday coming for the country

[Ivanstone]

Yes, rural whites are definitely known for their affluence... Not their run down trailer parks filled with meth addicts.

There are lots of broke as fuck white people. And how many of those white people are victims of voter suppression on top of being poor?

[NihilSustinet]

Perhaps
Doesnt change the fact that there are alot of poor white aswell, blacks may very well have it worse, doesnt make it any better for those white that are poor aswell.

thats not what he was saying, though. he was speaking about institutional racism that has kept blacks in poverty for hundreds of years, from the slave ships to the projects. he isnt saying no individual white person has ever been poor, but referring to the bigger picture of race in america.

[roboscorcher]

This is the nonsense that is causing people like the OP to feel set apart from the Dems. The far left seems to think ANYTHING to the right of them are Nazis/far right/alt right.

This is the nonsense that is causing people like the OP to feel set apart from the GOP. The far right seems to think ANYTHING to the left of them are Socialists/Communists.

See how easy that was? Both extremist sides use extremist rhetoric. People like Shapiro and Crowder have labelled dems communist since they opened their youtube channels.

At the end of the day, you should judge a party on its platform and its dedication to said platform. Don't judge it by its worst actors, unless they actually have an impact on the party.

[owbu]

Seems like you should vote in primaries then. It's not like the other side isn't full of snowflakes on their frindges.

That or look into libertarians, I guess.

[oplawlz]

I think pretending that the first part can be taken out of context to have a different meaning than he obviously intended is a little disingenuous. Don't you? You don't actually think he thinks white people can't be poor, do you?

It's literally what he said . . . how else can you interpret that?

[IIamaKing]

Good please stay away in my opinion, I don't value fence sitters honestly. Anybody in need of that much special attention is someone who can vote for Trump.

Lol, the idiocy in this sentiment.

[Martymark]

lol have fun with the far right.

Far left dems are not even a thing on a national level.

And that's how Donald Trump got elected.

Dems said "We don't want SCUM like you voting for us!" to anyone not left leaning enough.

Trump said "I hope everyone votes for me. Bernie voters, gay voters, union voters, I welcome you all to vote Trump!"

[Kreuger]

thats not what he was saying, though. he was speaking about institutional racism that has kept blacks in poverty for hundreds of years, from the slave ships to the projects. he isnt saying no individual white person has ever been poor, but referring to the bigger picture of race in america.

Im not from the US, but how much "institutional racism " do you really have in the year 2019? From a outside view, watching news etc you seem to be doing really well regarding having eradicating that part

[NihilSustinet]

There are lots of broke as fuck white people. And how many of those white people are victims of voter suppression on top of being poor?

voter suppression, targeting by law enforcement, disproportionate treatment for things like home and business loans. i dont think anyone can say that a broke white person has it as bad as a broke black person with a clean conscience.

[mvaliz]

As par usual:

THIS

BELONGS

IN

POLITICS

FORUMS!

But I daresay the OP knows that... especially when a stroll down the OP's posting history reads with bullshit like this:

This is the problem with the far left, instead of being INCLUSIVE, they try to guilt white men into feeling shame for themselves.

As a white male this doesn't make me sympathize, it makes me vote Republican. If they don't like me, then guess what? FUCKEM.

Or this…

Sweden also has a population of 10m people...that's about as much as NYC. It's a lot easier to manage social services when your entire country is as big as an American city. You can't say "this country does X so we can do X!" it doesn't work. It's like saying "my 15 foot motorboat can make a u-turn in 5 seconds so your giant oil rig should be able to make a u-turn in 5 seconds too!"

Or this… in you defending your conservative view that the person you responded to called you out on.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...0#post50656320
I give it 7/10. Points for proper grammar but took 1 away for not properly spacing out the writing. Walls of text are never pleasant on the eyes to read through.

Another 2 points off for being completely wrong. My story actually was true. It actually happened, although I did use a nice sarcastic tone to accentuate the story. Happened outside of the DMV like maybe 3 years ago.

Or this… **on that note, who the hell in this day-in-age uses “colored” when describing a Black/African American person!?! That’s something an 85 year old would say! >_<** (Also note: you helped get this thread locked with your insane racist rantings).

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...2#post50656062
Hey, I'm white and tolerant! I few years ago a colored woman in a car asked to use my cell phone because hers had died and even though I figured there was a 90% chance she'd drive off with it, my tolerant brain still let her use it all the same and guess what, she didn't even drive off with it!

So joke's on you, I am very tolerant.

And here’s you mocking “liberalz” to somebody who made a joke comment about Anduin’s skin color not changing…

That is extremely racist and triggering that you would assume his skin color can't change.

And here’s you ad-homineming @Machismo and his liberal viewpoint in using Buzzfeed on suicide rates in Japan vs America, in his accurate defense of deconstructing your argument:

OOOOoOOOooO and he retorts with an ad hominem attack. I win.

SEE YA

I'd link you something proving that it is, but there really is no point in wasting my time arguing with you. Judging by your post count, posting on here is pretty much your full time job and I don't want to be dragged into a 10000 post argument with a professional mmo-champs poster.

So later dude. Not feeding you any more posts. SEE YA.

Sorry, son, you can say you don’t like Dumbass Dump all you want - but your posting history will never show you ever being a “Democrat” at any point in time. At best, you’re some edgelord “moderate” with an overly inflated opinion of himself, but you clearly aren’t a “Democrat”… So grow a pair and stop lying.

[NihilSustinet]

Im not from the US, but how much "institutional racism " do you really have in the year 2019? From a outside view, watching news etc you seem to be doing really well regarding having eradicating that part

hahahahahahaha

[Low Hanging Fruit]

I vote on things I believe in. Not what others believe in. I vote Democrat. If someone doesnt like my Roman ancestor owned their Greek ancestor doesnt change how I vote. It merely makes me pitty them.

[Kreuger]

hahahahahahaha

Thanks for the answer, much appriciated

[NihilSustinet]

It's literally what he said . . . how else can you interpret that?

by reading the whole quote?

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Thanks for the answer, much appriciated

to answer your question: a lot.

[Kreuger]

to answer your question: a lot.

Like what?