When does 8.2 hit? bfa has run out of content

[Taeldorian]

And once again Crucible of storms is literally the same time frame on release compared to 8.1.5. It's not 2-3 weeks it's a full month later.

Ya'll are gullible to them excuses. Also who said anything about Jan 2nd? 2nd week of January wasn't Jan 2nd, that's kind of impossible mate.

The reality is they space out the content to schedule they think is optimal to retaining players. Obviously they aren't gonna launch a raid in the last week of Dec or first week of January. Nothing stopped them from doing it earlier then literally the last week of January though... except that's what their numbers and research said was optimal for player retention.

I’m not arguing about the release of the raid, just stating why the raid was released when it was since you said that wasn’t correct. Whether they’re “making excuses” or not that’s all there is to go off of.

However I do think the raid will be released 2-3 weeks after the patch. If they held BoD until after the holidays concluded for everyone then I’d assume it was released later than they wanted. That’s just an assumption though, we’ll see what happens.

All I hope is that they don’t litter this raid with nerfs. Everything up until stormwall is pretty easy and they haven’t nerfed the raid much yet whereas by now uldir was nerfed 3-4 times on mythic maybe more.

[FuxieDK]

you get 2 new races for which you can work for thier heritage armor.
a new mini raid.
new additions to the brawlers guild.

Only because you don't like the new content doesn't mean that there is no content.

And most important: a new RWL achievement..

[darklogrus]

June because that is when other mmos are releasing expansions.

This poster knows whats up...

[Chickat]

Nearly 2 months? What kind of terrible math are you using? By Feb 12th we had already just got our 3rd reset of BoD.

6 weeks. Though I did think the patch released the 4th of December. But you always gotta be right huh. Stay beautiful tech.

[Tech614]

However I do think the raid will be released 2-3 weeks after the patch.

You mean like Crucible is releasing 2-3 weeks after 8.1.5?

Oh wait...

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6 weeks. Though I did think the patch released the 4th of December. But you always gotta be right huh. Stay beautiful tech.

By the time it would have been 2 months we already had 3 lockouts of heroic BoD. It's not that I have to be right, it's that you said something blatantly wrong.

BTW what happens when you remove Christmas and News Years weeks from those 6 weeks?

Oh yea... it becomes 4 weeks. Just like crucible is, just like the next raid will be after that and probably the 8.3 raid as well.

[Taeldorian]

You mean like Crucible is releasing 2-3 weeks after 8.1.5?

Oh wait...

Not quite sure why you’re so annoyed about this. I really don’t care too much about the release of crucible, we’re still on Jaina. If the 8.2 raid launches a month after the patch that’s fine. Don’t really care whose right here lol, I just threw out a guess.

[eduwneso]

8.2 releasing is not the same as the new raid releasing. We could have 8.2 in June and the raid only open in late August- Early September. Like they did for Legion. 8.2 would also function as a natural nerf to the raid so people can complete their raid goals.

Blizzard said thet 8.2 raid would come very close to the patch day, expect 2-3 weeks after.

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The 8.2 raid won't actually launch with 8.2. No raid has launched with it's actual content patch since WoD mate...

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[Leodric]

I highly recommend anyone who dislikes the new content patches to take a break and play other games or MMOs, it does help and getting burned out from ANY activity not only WoW does happen, at the end you do the same stuff for many hours per week.

While I agree that the new content isn't really something innovational, Blizzard always pushed content like this during patches and that's just how this game rolls for over a decade now. I also think that the underlying issue is the whole basic system in BFA which demotivates many people to try new content (GCD changes, bad class design, azerite) and therefore new content always seems to be "stale".

[swatsonqt]

That is not content. Because if it was content, then they could have infinite content, just make a set of armor, force the player to do something time consuming (and boring after having done it more than 10-15 times) and name that content. That is not content.

are you a little slow in thinking or trolling?

[quite an expert in wow]

He's right though. The game hasn't been this stale since WoD

If you aren't progressing in mythic BoD, you will be bored.

Don't mind the people who are in denial about the state of the game.

That's such bullshit because it all depends on what you personally like to do.

I like farming mounts, arena, bg's, gearing my alts, m+, farming gold. That besides mythic raiding.

If you only like one part of the game of course you're going to be bored because it's not the only thing available.

[swatsonqt]

That isn't new content.

Leveling through the same zones all of us have done dozens of times on a fat human is not new.
A "mini raid" is not going to occupy enough time to keep people around.
The brawler's guild getting new bosses is not enough either. I can clear the entire thing in about 2 hours, and then what? I'm supposed to continue farming it? Why? I get nothing for doing it once I'm max rank and have the mount.

it doesn't matter weather you find it boring or not or how long it takes you to finish the things. it's still new content

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2 bosses of raid, and cosmetic content which may not apply to most because they either don't care, don't like, or have all classes maxed already and can't bother. While cosmetics are content, they are not engaging content as raids or bgs or new areas are. They just change the way you play through the actual content, and doesn't matter as much if there's not enough content.

i agree that it'S not very engaging content but still: new content.

And as i've seen now: we get wintergrasp as new epic battleground...so actually a raid a bgs and casual stuff...actually there is everything a patch should have just in smal quantity i guess?

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lol wow such content you listed there. Allied races aren't content, they are cosmetic additions to do the same content you've already been doing

And Brawler's guild is very niche and should be supplementary content, not the main attraction

okay, but it's still content?^^why are people so triggered by this...it may not be good for you but it'S still content? why do you always refuse to see all the things that you actually get just to be able to say "well there is nothing new wow sucks blizz bad hurr durr". It's simply not tue. there is content...probably enough to fill 2 to 3 weeks for the average player...don'T see whats wrong with that addition.

[Puupi]

BfA ran out of content in 8.0, it hasn't had any real content updates since excluding the BfD raid.

Having a new 15 minute quest line in a patch after 6 months isn't enough to qualify as content.

[FelPlague]

Warfronts - The majority does them for the quest and they won't touch it again until another 2 weeks when it's back up for their faction.

Islands - Other than cosmetics, the reward/progression for IE at this point in the game is next to none. Once you get your neck level to 40+, there isn't really a point for AP grind. (which most people who play frequently already have 40+)

Leveling - Yeah, no. Leveling has been a pretty stale aspect of this game since BC. The leveling experience is arguably the weakest aspect of the game. You experience it once in under 24 hours of gameplay and that's it.

M+ and raiding are really all BFA has to offer in terms of character progression.

1. i know many who do them quite often, multiple times to do different things, again still new content. including the quests leading up to them, and the new updated zones
2. there are heroic to mythic raiders who still dont have 40 neck, and again, cause you dont do them hundreds of times every week does not suddenly make them "not content" they are very much content
3. lol alright, not like people loved Legion and BFA questing, and even said the leveling experiance of WoD was one of if not the best thing about it.
4. M+, raiding, pvp... more then older expansions "raiding"

can you tell me what they had in vanilla, tbc, wotlk, cata, mop, and wod other then "raiding and pvp"

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Not quite sure why you’re so annoyed about this. I really don’t care too much about the release of crucible, we’re still on Jaina. If the 8.2 raid launches a month after the patch that’s fine. Don’t really care whose right here lol, I just threw out a guess.

its already been announced to be april 16 so exactly 1 month.

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Blizzard said thet 8.2 raid would come very close to the patch day, expect 2-3 weeks after.

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wait can you link me to this?
i do rmember them saying "When will we see more about 8.2? after 8.1.5" at blizzcon, but nothing else.

[Puupi]

I think a big issue with the WoW community is that there are apparently a lot of people in it who expect WoW to cover all their entertainment needs. Play other games, binge watch a series, go out (you went spontaneously combust, promise), file your porn, do something other than WoW for a few weeks ffs!

I took a three month break and came back to try out BoD, I plan to take another break and come back a week before Crucible to try out 8.1.5. Then I'll likely come back for 8.2.
I mean you can just log twice a month to do Darkshore Warfront and World boss and you'll have nearly as decent gear as anyone who doesn't at least clear the raid on Heroic regularly by the time 8.2 comes . . .

So your solution to "how to play WoW" is to not play WoW and continue to pay Blizzard your monthly subscription?

The slow content development cycle of WoW nowadays (this started years and years ago) doesn't warrant the monthly subscription. The game should absolutely be free to play with buyable DLC's aka expansions.

[FelPlague]

So your solution to "how to play WoW" is to not play WoW and continue to pay Blizzard your monthly subscription?

The slow content development cycle of WoW nowadays (this started years and years ago) doesn't warrant the monthly subscription. The game should absolutely be free to play with buyable DLC's aka expansions.

no the solution is, there is no such thing as a game that produces infinite content, there is no such thing as a game you can play for 15 years and not get bored of it.

wow has never and never will be a gawme you can play 24/7
blizzard does not want you to play wow all day every day, they want you to play wow, and some other games, they dont want you to play all day, and you shouldnty
no game is made for you to ONLY play that game.

also wow this day does warrent the monthly sub, you say this is slow content development, but seem to forget the content development of older wow was FAR slower, both BFA and Legion have come out with more content faster then any prior expansion. Legion was insanely fast, and still had a shorter drought them Wod or MoP


you want shit? lets talk about how icc was timegated for two fucking months.

[FelPlague]

BfA ran out of content in 8.0, it hasn't had any real content updates since excluding the BfD raid.

Having a new 15 minute quest line in a patch after 6 months isn't enough to qualify as content.

having "a" you mean like 30 of them?

8.1 new tides of vengence campaign (3 questlines per faction each being about 15 minutes)
dwarf and blood elf heritage armor (20 mins each)
darkshore (alliance and horde, easily 45 mins each)
2 new islands, plus new events and enemies (an hour)
new raid
incursions (easily an hour to two on each faction)
new pvp brawl (like 10 mins)
new pet battle dungeon (40 mins)


8.1.5 new raid
two new allied races (easily 20 mins each questline)
warsong gulch and arathi basin updates
darkmoon fair coaster (like 2 minutes)
3 new microholidays (like 5 minutes each)
new childrens week content (15 mins horde, 15 mins alliance)
wod timewalking eh
new portal rooms, content but well.. 3 seconds to experiance
tools of the trade (8 of them, each taking about 20 minutes)
brawler's guild, with a new questline (about an hour or more)
new pvp brawl against the AI (like 10 minutes)
Xalatath questline (30 minutes)
new magni and mother questline (15 minutes)
new war campaign (20 minutes each faction)

these values are if you are rushing them btw, nearly double if you actually... do the content, by stopping to read quest text and npc text...

btw have you done both horde and alliance? cause if you have only done one side, you are missing out on like 20+ hours of content.
hey in the new patch you get mounts if you do both sides!

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I mean the entire premise of WoW not having enough content to last you is only really valid for people who play an MMO Solo. Anyone who is playing with a consistent group of friends has endless content to do in WoW. BfA does fall short a bit from the Legion release schedule but it is vastly better than WoD or anything before MoP. MoP had a similar release schedule with BfA and somewhat better enduring content if we don't count the WoD wait.

They said they wanted to hold back abit, as legion was REALLY heavy handed at launch, like we barely had any time to farm before the new shit came out, it was way quick.
hell legion was not even released and we got an announcement for 7.1 it was fucking mental. (7.1 was announced ALMOST 2 WEEKS before legion even launched)

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He thinks it’s the reason because that’s literally what they said the reason was for BoD launching “late”. End of January is safer than Jan 2nd, I know plenty of raid teams that took off from Christmas Eve week-Jan 8th/15th.

They stated I believe in a QA that they didn’t release the raid sooner due to holidays.

yeah, they and many other work places in fields like blizzard you get bassicly the entire week before christmas, to the entire week after new years, to make room for people to fly back from visiting family, or fly to family, and prep/get back to work.

imagine if literally 1 day after being up to 3am drinking you had to get to releasing a patch... holy fuck i would not wanna be there, the headache...

other holidays sure, but when the holiday is literally "say up to 3am and get super drunk" you need a few days to get back to normal.

[eduwneso]

wait can you link me to this?
i do rmember them saying "When will we see more about 8.2? after 8.1.5" at blizzcon, but nothing else.

I'm at work now, and the firewall blocks a lot of stuff (I still don't know why I can get in MMO-C), as soon as I can I'll find it and share it with you, but they said that I think in a Q&A not Blizzcon

[mickeyjay]

Forgive if it was mentioned but i saw people saying they might line up new content with the other mmo's that are around july. Isn't that the middle of the US summer which was also confirmed now as containing the release date for wow classic. I somewhat doubt they will release bfa content right on top of a wow classic release. That being said the new raid will need at least a couple months of traction which would line up with that, we could be looking at new bfa content later than july in that case...

[kamuimac]

Elsweyr is on June 4 and Shadowbringers is on July 2. I don't see them releasing a major patch on the 4th of July so maybe they will do it close to Elsweyr.

answear is as always - 1 week earlier

[druenos]

That is not content. Because if it was content, then they could have infinite content, just make a set of armor, force the player to do something time consuming (and boring after having done it more than 10-15 times) and name that content. That is not content.

What you are describing here is basically every Mmo that has ever existed, Mmo's are full of repeatable content. It is content, you just don't like it, sounds like mmo's are not for you. BfA has plenty of new content coming out on a very similar timescale to Legion, You are just looking for something to complain about.