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    They tried this in PvE and it lasted all of one tier (Naxx achievement drakes, which can now be bought on the BMAH anyways). No idea why it's still a thing in pvp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Everyone who does pvp can get it. If you want it, do pvp.

    If pvpers want pve-gear they do pve.

    Literally a non-issue.
    You seem to be missing the point of the message and come off sounding snarky. No where did I say you shouldn't have to pvp to get the sets. The issue is the limited time in which you have to do it. Going back and doing content from 3 expansions ago to get gear in an old raid =/= playing current tier pvp during a specific time frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Well, In Pvm the newer sets still require some level of skill to acquire. But the pvp sets have always been gated, as well as titles and mounts. It's too late to change that, and doing so would alienate a lot of people.
    Oh, I'm not worried about titles and achievements, just mog. But you're right. It would alienate a lot of people, mostly because people would QQ that they can't passively flex over things that nobody really cares about. Achievements prove that crap but that's not enough for some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Everyone who does pvp can get it. If you want it, do pvp.

    If pvpers want pve-gear they do pve.

    Literally a non-issue.
    I believe you are missing the point.


    OP's point is that anyone can go back and get a previous expansion's mythic raid transmogs without much if any effort, they can't go get PvP season's top end transmog after that season has ended, no matter how good they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggsy View Post
    You seem to be missing the point of the message and come off sounding snarky. No where did I say you shouldn't have to pvp to get the sets. The issue is the limited time in which you have to do it. Going back and doing content from 3 expansions ago to get gear in an old raid =/= playing current tier pvp during a specific time frame.
    Doesnt matter. I dont get the gladiator mounts from seasons past because i wasnt good enough back then.
    BRB going to start a thread that i want mounts that arent obtainable anymore!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    I believe you are missing the point.


    OP's point is that anyone can go back and get a previous expansion's mythic raid transmogs without much if any effort, they can't go get PvP season's top end transmog after that season has ended, except for (I think) the Legion ones, I believe those ones can be bought from a vendor in Dalaran if you have the rating for it.
    Im not tho. I get his point perfectly but i dont agree with it and i dont care for the comparison.
    Everything isnt for everyone. As I said earlier. I would love to have rank 1 titles and mounts from season 2 to 5 where i didnt do any arena.
    I dont care that some people got them and that they arent obtainable anymore.

    Uniqueness in WOW is a good thing. Few things in wow nowadays that gives you a special flavor and if everything was avaiable for everyone forever it would remove on of the last things about wow.

    I would love some of the transmogs from challenge mode and mage tower but i missed out because of various reasons.
    You dont see me starting threads complaining about it tho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    I believe you are missing the point.


    OP's point is that anyone can go back and get a previous expansion's mythic raid transmogs without much if any effort, they can't go get PvP season's top end transmog after that season has ended, except for (I think) the Legion ones, I believe those ones can be bought from a vendor in Dalaran if you have the rating for it.
    Indeed. If you had the rating for it you can go back and buy them, last I checked. What annoys me is that they change the system so often without any reason. What was wrong with being able to get the sets after the season ended like we could last expansion? Nothing. Just a lot of people upset they couldn't stand around and have people gawk (which nobody was doing anyway, mind you). These same people wear the set for one season then drop it for the next season's set and at that point it really shouldn't matter. But alas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Doesnt matter. I dont get the gladiator mounts from seasons past because i wasnt good enough back then.
    BRB going to start a thread that i want mounts that arent obtainable anymore!!
    It's very clear you just have a need to stand around and think people are gawking at your set thinking you're legendary. They're not bud. It's transmog and I for one don't believe pvpers deserve special treatment. Also, you only set yourself up to look even more foolish when you bring up mounts as you CAN go back and farm for previous raid mounts but for some reason pvpers are superior to everyone and thus they deserve special treatment/rules? Lawl. In any case, this was about mogs, not mounts. Cute, but foolish attempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggsy View Post

    mostly because people would QQ that they can't passively flex over things that nobody really cares about.
    Oh the fucking irony in this comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggsy View Post

    It's very clear you just have a need to stand around and think people are gawking at your set thinking you're legendary. They're not bud. It's transmog and I for one don't believe pvpers deserve special treatment.
    Haha.. apparantly someone is gawking and atleast crying about it ;D

    Oh btw.. i use random bs transmog parts from stupid quest rewards and stuff so you are wrong in that too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Doesnt matter. I dont get the gladiator mounts from seasons past because i wasnt good enough back then.
    BRB going to start a thread that i want mounts that arent obtainable anymore!!

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    Im not tho. I get his point perfectly but i dont agree with it and i dont care for the comparison.
    Everything isnt for everyone. As I said earlier. I would love to have rank 1 titles and mounts from season 2 to 5 where i didnt do any arena.
    I dont care that some people got them and that they arent obtainable anymore.

    Uniqueness in WOW is a good thing. Few things in wow nowadays that gives you a special flavor and if everything was avaiable for everyone forever it would remove on of the last things about wow.

    I would love some of the transmogs from challenge mode and mage tower but i missed out because of various reasons.
    You dont see me starting threads complaining about it tho...
    So, you think it's fine that there's a disconnect between how top end appearances are acquired in PvP and PvE? You think it's fine that PvP appearances are put on a higher pedestal than PvE apperances? Shit should be consistent across the board one way or the other, either the PvP ones need to work like the PvE ones do now, or the PvE ones need to work like the PvP ones do now, either way it should be consistent... But given that the cat is already out of the bag with PvE, I think it should go the former way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggsy View Post
    Indeed. If you had the rating for it you can go back and buy them, last I checked. What annoys me is that they change the system so often without any reason. What was wrong with being able to get the sets after the season ended like we could last expansion? Nothing. Just a lot of people upset they couldn't stand around and have people gawk (which nobody was doing anyway, mind you). These same people wear the set for one season then drop it for the next season's set and at that point it really shouldn't matter. But alas.
    I just went back and checked, I was incorrect, you can't buy them unless you earned the rating during the time their appearances were current.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Oh the fucking irony in this comment

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    Haha.. apparantly someone is gawking and atleast crying about it ;D
    Ahh I see what is now, apologies. I thought I was talking to an adult, my mistake. Trolls will be trolls I suppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    So, you think it's fine that there's a disconnect between how top end appearances are acquired in PvP and PvE? You think it's fine that PvP appearances are put on a higher pedestal than PvE apperances? Shit should be consistent across the board one way or the other.
    Just read his last reply, he's clearly a troll trying to troll. The type of person that probably has the pvp sets but because he was carried through the hoops to get it. All he's worried about it trying to make everyone think he's super edgy and kewl.
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    Get them while they are relevant or don't get them. Pretty easy logic really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Get them while they are relevant or don't get them. Pretty easy logic really.
    Why doesn't that same logic apply to PvE then? Why is it ok for the restriction to be only on PvP gear when anyone can go get mythic raid transmogs from past expansions with no effort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Get them while they are relevant or don't get them. Pretty easy logic really.
    Nice to see atleast some people in this thread that arent having problems thinking

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggsy View Post
    Ahh I see what is now, apologies. I thought I was talking to an adult, my mistake. Trolls will be trolls I suppose.
    Just the kind of response i was expecting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    Why doesn't that same logic apply to PvE then? Why is it ok for the restriction to be only on PvP gear when anyone can go get mythic raid transmogs from past expansions with no effort?
    Because PVP isnt PVE. Its two different things. Deal with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Because PVP isnt PVE. Its two different things. Deal with it
    That's not a valid argument, it lacks substance and reason entirely. You've basically just said "I'm right because I say so"... So, I agree with Nuggsy's assessment of you being a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    That's not a valid argument, it lacks substance and reason entirely. You've basically just said "I'm right because I say so".
    Agree to disagree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Agree to disagree
    Good to know that's all you can fall back on when you can't actually argue your point.

    To the ignore list you go, along with all the other trolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    Good to know that's all you can fall back on when you can't actually argue your point.
    Kind of like just saying im a troll of just stating that its not an argument. Move along buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    Why doesn't that same logic apply to PvE then? Why is it ok for the restriction to be only on PvP gear when anyone can go get mythic raid transmogs from past expansions with no effort?
    Because PvP and PvE are different. Pretty easy logic really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    That's not a valid argument, it lacks substance and reason entirely. You've basically just said "I'm right because I say so".
    Again, I'm just going to try and save you the trouble. Appelgren isn't actually trying to have a conversation. He's basically doing the 6th grade equivalent of standing on the playground with his fingers in his ears, humming as loud as he can between shouting 'i know you are but what am I." The truth of the matter is that they can't actually offer a valid reason for their stance so all they can do is troll. It's just how these people are. There are a few who have attempted to provide an argument for it, but this guy isn't one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggsy View Post
    Again, I'm just going to try and save you the trouble. Appelgren isn't actually trying to have a conversation. He's basically doing the 6th grade equivalent of standing on the playground with his fingers in his ears, humming as loud as he can between shouting 'i know you are but what am I." The truth of the matter is that they can't actually offer a valid reason for their stance so all they can do is troll. It's just how these people are. There are a few who have attempted to provide an argument for it, but this guy isn't one of them.
    The thing is, we could give you people all the arguments we wanted and you guys would still cry about not being handed something you could have got whilst it was relevant. His stance is no less valid than yours just because you are crying about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    The thing is, we could give you people all the arguments we wanted and you guys would still cry about not being handed something you could have got whilst it was relevant.
    Or, and stick with me here, you don't have an argument, so you're making up excuses as to why you don't need to give one.

    Another troll for the ignore list me thinks.
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    The debate on this topic was almost big enough at one point to make them change their stance on this. Not really a right or wrong answer, just a matter of preference

    In general though, I don't think it's going anywhere, as the in-game Set UI even highlights "limited time set" and the seasonal mounts which go into semi-retirement

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