What if WoW went ftp but charged for patches?

[GreenJesus]

Anything cheaper than what we pay now would cut the quality of the game in half, despite whatever TF people's opinion of the quality is now. TBH 100% if BliZz would hire more devs and give me even more content, I'd throw 30 dollors a month at them. WOW for a month is still cheaper than going out to the movies once a month. Witch averages around $50. WTF is wrong with ppl. Don't you have money (insert don't you have a phone), JK.

There are other games that exist than just WoW. 30 dollars is the price of a full game on steam. For 30 dollars i would be able to sub to FF14 and ESO. Netflix is 12 dollars a month and look at all of the content there. There are tons of services that ask me to pay a monthly fee. If I bought every monthly service I thought "looks cheap compared Ron movie theater!" I'd go broke.You are saying WoW should cost 360 dollars a year in sub fees? You realize that is the cost of 6 copies of RDR2?

[Seranthor]

Except ESO expansions are patches in other MMOs.

Yea, sure, I'm not buying that.

[Queen of Hamsters]

There are other games that exist than just WoW. 30 dollars is the price of a full game on steam. For 30 dollars i would be able to sub to FF14 and ESO. Netflix is 12 dollars a month and look at all of the content there. There are tons of services that ask me to pay a monthly fee. You are saying WoW should cost 360 dollars a year in sub fees? You realize that is the cost of 6 copies of RDR2?

Who the fuck buys 6 copies of RDR2 when 1 is enough...?

You must be the only person in existence who finds everything on Netflix to be worth your sub. I for one have use for the feature far less than I do WoW.

A "full game on steam" doesn't say much on a subjective level. There are free games of steam too, so why spend money on WoW at all?

360 USD in a year on WoW would still be cheaper than my other hobbies. I don't want the sub to go up like that, but it'd still be well worth it for the amount of time and enjoyment I get. I'm probably not alone in seeing that. Others think current price is too much and don't spend any time nor money on it. Different strokes.

[MrExcelion]

As someone who has posted about the payment model in the past, I think the sub thing is still fine, especially since it pays for classic too soon, so the sub thing really makes more sense.

However, I don't think we should be charged for expansions anymore, nor should the price have went up 10 dollars awhile back on that and the Virtual Ticket (but that's another matter).

Both sub + game box aren't necessary.

[OmniSkribe]

If we drop "price" subject from discussion. How OP thinks this will work?

Let's imagine there are 1000 players split among different patches, this means that Developers will have to support, develop and fix different versions of patch concurrently because bugfixes will still be relevant and include them behind paywall will mean death of a game.

Not to mention that stat balance will be different for different patches and this will split community even more leading to even less people to PVP and PVE with.

What's the logic in the OP?

[Rogalicus]

Yea, sure, I'm not buying that.

Yeah, two dungeon DLC for $15 is totally not patch worthy content in normal games. Or two zones and one raid as a paid major expansion.

[Chickat]

Except, ESO doesn't charge for patches...

Lets be honest. WoWs large patches are every bit as big as ESOs smaller scale expansions.

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If we drop "price" subject from discussion. How OP thinks this will work?

Let's imagine there are 1000 players split among different patches, this means that Developers will have to support, develop and fix different versions of patch concurrently because bugfixes will still be relevant and include them behind paywall will mean death of a game.

Not to mention that stat balance will be different for different patches and this will split community even more leading to even less people to PVP and PVE with.

What's the logic in the OP?

Clearly you havent heard of ESO. They do EXACTLY what i suggested.

[StaeleAilar]

I feel like in all honesty this would be a way to completely destroy the game lol.

I'd rather keep paying the sub than pay for things seperately like.. 8.1 and 8.15 and all that. Neither of those patches have imo been worth paying for. They have added very little to the game.

[Chickat]

Yeah, two dungeon DLC for $15 is totally not patch worthy content in normal games. Or two zones and one raid as a paid major expansion.

A patch like 8.2 is surely worth 20 dollars in a world with no sub. It has 2 zones, 1 raid, 1 mega dungeon etc and they are promising to change a ton of stuff and revamp world content.

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I feel like in all honesty this would be a way to completely destroy the game lol.

I'd rather keep paying the sub than pay for things seperately like.. 8.1 and 8.15 and all that. Neither of those patches have imo been worth paying for. They have added very little to the game.

Did you read it all? I clearly said when wows on deaths door. If this happens, the games already dead, and this is an attempt to revitalize the game.

[schwarzkopf]

Then by definition it wouldn't be free to play.

For example - if a patch comes out every 3 months, you would be required to pay $20 every three months to play.

i.e. not free to play.

[Vrinara]

It wouldn't work. They would just piss off the rest of the fanbase. Even though the community is already pissed off aswell.

[Daedius]

Was wondering wtf you were on about saying FTP, as in File Transfer Protocol.

Most people say F2P...

Anyways, I avoid F2P games like the plague.

[styil]

It effectively is like that already. When people resubscribe for a new patch, they pay $15, so they are effectively paying $15 for the patch.

[Lochton]

Minor patches are free. Major patches cost 20 dollars. Expansions still exist at 50 dollars.

For 20 dollars you get the .2 and 3s of an expansion. They would also of course put even more mounts on the store as well as other new cosmetic things. Probably add housing and sell housing stuff on the store. New hair dyes/armor dyes for dyeable armor. All armor on the store and most newer raid/pvp armor is dyeable.

This isnt something I see them doing soon, but 5-10 years down the road when the playerbase shrinks enough. Would you still support the game/be interested in coming back if the base game was free.

Noooope, I'd rather just subscribe and buy the expansion when it comes.

[Beefkow]

If i'm paying less money, then yes I'd welcome it.

[Danuel]

"what if..."
Blizzard starts making games and focus on quality content in wow.
We don't need another monetization model.

[cparle87]

So in other words what if the game wasn't ftp and instead costed even more than it does now

Are we doing the same math? Take Legion for example: 50 for the expansion and 20 per major patch would've been 110. In reality we paid 50 for the expansion and 15 a month for 24 months which was 410.

[dragnipur]

"What if WoW adopted GW2's failing system"

Yeah... no.

It is working as intended for a game which has F2P and B2P model with Free updates only for the Story if you log for them and B2P story if you don't log.It is not mendatory to have.It is not a failing system when every patch is free of charge not costing the player anything.

[Poe]

If that was the case we'd be getting patches every other week lol

[Baroclinic]

So in other words what if the game wasn't ftp and instead costed even more than it does now

Seems like it would cost less. Its roughly $15 a month, but a theoretical patch costs $20 which happens every 6months to a year.