World of Warcraft is the Top Franchise of Blizzard

[Mormolyce]

It doesn't matter that they are (pulling numbers out of thin air) ten times less numerous than the average player if they spend twenty times more.

The smash success of microtransactions (in terms of $) doesn't lie. It's a strategy that works very, very well and is a lot easier to make customers swallow than a sub fee.

Try a hundred plus times less numerous, and twenty times zero is zero.

Realistically, spending falls on a spectrum, and "whales" are the tiny tip of that distribution.

The reason subs have been largely replaced by FTP models is not necessarily because FTP models are more profitable, it might simply be competitive pressure. If FTP really made more money I have no doubt Blizzard would end their sub fee and start stocking the store. They'd be fools not to.

[Jastall]

Try a hundred plus times less numerous, and twenty times zero is zero.

Realistically, spending falls on a spectrum, and "whales" are the tiny tip of that distribution.

The reason subs have been largely replaced by FTP models is not necessarily because FTP models are more profitable, it might simply be competitive pressure. If FTP really made more money I have no doubt Blizzard would end their sub fee and start stocking the store. They'd be fools not to.

I wasn't talking about WoW here, but other properties. Across the market, microtransaction-based games are far more common than sub-based ones and are usually more profitable thanks in part to generally having lower operating costs.

WoW has had 15 years of being a sub-based game, changing that will not be taken lightly, and if the Diablo Immortal fiasco is to be believed it will be a PR nightmare from the get go. But will we see a Warcraft property with microtransactions within the next five years? I believe it a possibility.

[blackblade]

I wasn't talking about WoW here, but other properties. Across the market, microtransaction-based games are far more common than sub-based ones and are usually more profitable thanks in part to generally having lower operating costs.

WoW has had 15 years of being a sub-based game, changing that will not be taken lightly, and if the Diablo Immortal fiasco is to be believed it will be a PR nightmare from the get go. But will we see a Warcraft property with microtransactions within the next five years? I believe it a possibility.

Honestly, I'm not even all that appaled by MT driven f2p games as long as they keep the cash shop firmly not-pay to win. Games like Path of Exile are awesome and I could see a Warcraft or Diablo IP prospering in a similar model. Honestly, Blizzard needs to move out to new IP's, The rabid fanbase around their existing stuff is insatiable, and creating Diablo/Warcraft Lite is only going to russle jimmies.

On that note, the real fuck up with Diablo Immortal was announcing it as the cornerstone of their hardcore-PC-master-race-convention. If you look at hearthstone's reveal, it was done outside of blizzcon with a much gentler-touch approach, tempering expectations ahead of time (like 'this is not a new expansion pack or RTS title').

[Jastall]

Honestly, I'm not even all that appaled by MT driven f2p games as long as they keep the cash shop firmly not-pay to win. Games like Path of Exile are awesome and I could see a Warcraft or Diablo IP prospering in a similar model. Honestly, Blizzard needs to move out to new IP's, The rabid fanbase around their existing stuff is insatiable, and creating Diablo/Warcraft Lite is only going to russle jimmies.

On that note, the real fuck up with Diablo Immortal was announcing it as the cornerstone of their hardcore-PC-master-race-convention. If you look at hearthstone's reveal, it was done outside of blizzcon with a much gentler-touch approach, tempering expectations ahead of time (like 'this is not a new expansion pack or RTS title').

You're certainly right, but you know how the internet is. Fans are spooked now, and any free to play or title with microtransactions better look impeccable before launch or the fury of a thousand fans and dozens of click-hungry Youtubers will bear down on Blizzard.

[Mormolyce]

I wasn't talking about WoW here, but other properties. Across the market, microtransaction-based games are far more common than sub-based ones and are usually more profitable thanks in part to generally having lower operating costs.

WoW has had 15 years of being a sub-based game, changing that will not be taken lightly, and if the Diablo Immortal fiasco is to be believed it will be a PR nightmare from the get go. But will we see a Warcraft property with microtransactions within the next five years? I believe it a possibility.

I doubt they're more profitable. Do you have evidence of this?

In any case, WoW has a sub AND a cash shop, so it has both. It just doesn't put a lot of stuff in that shop. That's one of the things about cash shops - you put too much stuff in there and the community decides you're PTW, so it's a bit of a risk.

[Verdugo]

That really doesnt sound good for Blizzard if BfA is their "best game".

[kamuimac]

I doubt they're more profitable. Do you have evidence of this?

In any case, WoW has a sub AND a cash shop, so it has both. It just doesn't put a lot of stuff in that shop. That's one of the things about cash shops - you put too much stuff in there and the community decides you're PTW, so it's a bit of a risk.

true but wow shop is nearly non existent.

if it was f2p game you would have by now 500 different armour/weapon skins and like 300 mounts / 1500 pets in shops after so many years of shop existing.

and you have what 10 mounts and 15 pets ? it has nothing in common with f2p cash shops

[Pann]

true but wow shop is nearly non existent.

if it was f2p game you would have by now 500 different armour/weapon skins and like 300 mounts / 1500 pets in shops after so many years of shop existing.

and you have what 10 mounts and 15 pets ? it has nothing in common with f2p cash shops

I would imagine that the token sells rather well.

[glowpipe]

Overwatch is their new golden IP now, that's where their focus will be.

overwatchs downfall started quite some time ago. It will keep fizzling out and die.

[Michael311]

Hy I am Michael and i am a big fan of call of duty but it was a fantastic series and upcoming was cod ghost 2 accroding to rumors

[Super Kami Dende]

A. We don't know the breakdown of that 58%.

It doesn't matter, since regardless of the breakdown it is still the top franchise for Blizzard as the other top franchises were Candy Crush and CoD which are both not Blizzard Games.

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That really doesnt sound good for Blizzard if BfA is their "best game".

Or it just sounds like the majority doesn't care about the constant crying people on Forums partake in and just enjoy the game.

[Doohreven]

No surprise for me. How much I paid is probably half of their income ^^

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[bullseyed]

I love how the OP says 'Candy Crush, Black OPs and WoW account for 58% of the company revenue for activision blizzard', and you have these mongoloids here saying 'Yeah but do you know how much of that 58% accounts to WoW?', well, who the fuck cares, WoW is the only Blizzard game mentioned, so it performs better than StarCraft, Diablo, Overwatch, and Hearthstone, therefore, it's the best game in Blizzard's portofolio right now in terms of money making.

I think the point is WoW could be at 10.5% and Overwatch could be at 9.5%, for example. That gap could be closed rather easily.

We know Overwatch was > 10% in 2016 and 2017, but fell under 10% in 2018. We also know that when Overwatch was included, the total was 66%/69% instead of 58%. So it could be that Overwatch was 11% last year (pushing 58% to 69%) and everything else stayed about equal. But that seems unlikely with the expansion schedule for WoW. They should see big bumps for Legion and BFA, then tail down for in-between years.

If WoW is king but on the downward trend and Overwatch were to be on an upswing, that could still impact strategy and funding on the Blizzard side. And that was probably true a year or two ago when Overwatch was trendy with the kids, but in a Fortnite world, that's likely why Overwatch got bumped from the list.

This itself is important, because it means Blizzard will want to be the "next new thing" which could mean a battle royale game/mode or could mean they want to find the next game style that will be trendy.

For me the sad thing here is it sounds like WoW makes less money than Candy Crush.

[Stardrift]

Most of our $15 a month goes elsewhere. Virtually none of it goes back into wow. Patches with half a year in between one another being evidence.

Wow has always been the golden goose. Some sites reconfirming it won't change the very little bit of money and effort that goes back into the game.

[Senphiroth1134]

World of Warcraft is comps composed of like 9 different wholly unique styles in many ways many of which aren't compatible at all with each other and are basically
stand-alone experiences.

Many of them were created in the early days of gaming and well stay awhile and listen I guess.

The old antebellum slave system is what produced a lot of these games honestly... America being focused on winning it all and so on....

Whehter it's the USSR or whatever they wanted to conquer they brought peoiple in and like everyone they were brough t in via the south so that's why San Diego and Orange County
became game cu hub centers.

These developers couldn't work in the north like everyone else , and allso at the time people werent' thinking like this game franchise that game franchise they were
pretty much just like "those peoiple" and everyone got lumped together give or take.

So anyway that's why everything involving Everquest and WoW and stuff is a pretty crazy mess is because it overlaps with the pretty strange way it all got here...

Now of course people don't care about thatl , as well they shouldn't because it's an era not worth remembering, but it does mean disentangling who wants to go where when
and how is pretty complex.

The way I understand it through the carrier pigoeons so to speak is J Allen is 100% done he wants to go north and build the premier games , definitely feels like he's been
held back by Allen and Mike and the whole culture. He's the guy that engineered the secret sauce of TBC that no develpoer really before or since has replicated,
and now that theres all this heat he's ready to demonstrate that spark again, once the obligations under the old system are basically fulfilled he's probably completely gone.

The story team on the other hand is all ove r the place, as enforcers for the old system they feel cheated, but they also can obviously understand why people are
not all with this... one c reccomendation popped up which is for the story team to actually make their own games.. I don't know if this board has any warlords of Draenor
fans from a purely game perspective... but honestly? It's something... isn't it? I Mean as a game... so they might go off and form their own thing like Anaheim Game Studios or
something like that.

They'll probably also provide some support for I think Dave Kosak and the uh what's her name... Golden... they might still tinker around with the story universe whether as
part of Blizzard or possibly at another company, having tott gotten somewhat attached to the characters.

Chris and Sam though are pretty done, they're tired of this and feel they're HOllywood grade people and so they want big promotions to so speak... however that would
have evaded their role in the antebellum system so I think they actually are going to do the Anaheim thing which isn't really a real thing I'm speaking in very nebulous this
is the vague directions I believe people are going so to speak so don't look for actual announcements along the lines of what I'm wriin writing here.

Personally I think they should make their own games and maybe go to Hollywood and do that also one day... it doesn't have to be either or I think.... not sure though.

The only other major people involved with WoW that I can think of is Pardo and crew, and they long ago decided as well know to make Bonfire studios... and they seem
kinda happy a bit in the south so to speak.

Pardo and Carpenter are definitely the engine behind the cinematics and Wrath of the LIch King cinematic etc stuff like that they make that happen, so I think everyone
acknowledges that as a super potent thing to be leveraged going forward.

IMo those that want their nice cheeseburgery feel of Blizzard should probably follow Bonfire in the near future... and those that want the game stuff will just probably have
to wait awhile to hopefully basically get something.

Lastly we have of course, Vanilla, which was produced basically entirely by the Blizzard North team and was covered up after more or less pretty bad... that's a whole
nother story that it is probably just barely getting started honestly.

Suffice to say supporting Bill Roper in his new enterprises would be a good wayto repave some positive relations there.

Basically - no one should be saying "WoW" when it's like 6 things that will absolutely basically 100% not be connected going forward.

In truth building all these things at Allen's company was the WORST possibl e idea because Allen is actually very territorial and possessive , he wants the company back the way
it was in the old days... and that has the others freaked out...

A lot of stuff there, but we're still not done... there's 3 more branches of blizzard that want independent recognition and I think they should
all get it.

1. Alex Asfrasiabi's Blizzard, more or less a branch of Everquest in contradicition to everyone else he actually wanted basically to go more
south back to Everquest a bit... not really but he was like very suspicious of the north thing and wants a unique situation whihch can
probably be provided, he'll probably run his own independent studio at some point, he has similar ambitions to J Allen and
is responsible for a ol lot of the European fantasy infleunces in WoW like the Scarlet Crusade and stuff.

2. Half-Italian/Kevin'Her oes of the Storm Blizzard - More or less just a term In vinented to describe the like "we're nerds!" Blizzard
with lots of color and zap and stuff and it is sorta generic but I think one a lot of people are attached to.... they just roll with wath whatever
seems positive and happy and can probably be found just about w anywhere in the near g future...

3. The one Blizzard virtually eveyrone came to identify with Blizzard t and the one the machine/the man wants a hold off..
the HORDE Blizzard this is like 10000% Alan Dabiri and a few others... they basically got promoted big time in the machine logic
and probably won't be found at Blizzard in hte near future but might be... it's not clear geographically where they want to go or what
they want exactly but there the ones that get basically all the accolades.

This is what it's come to, the best solution for a lot of these blizzard devs? EA.. no seriously... EA is the future for all this in the south... which might be weird for peoiple but I gurantee
it's true.

And anyway, maybe all these fans who want to see, whatever you want to see, whatever style, can help make all the future happen I think.

Basically the Left wanted Everquest hence Amazon game studios and all that... the right wanted Alan and the Horde thing...

which has left all the above just sorta flailing... and basically they need your help more or less to get somewhere because no one else
as part of the big institutions and such honestly cares about them that much at this point.

It's like Illidan said, only we can save ourselves.

That all said progress has already been made....

Bill is clearly happy with Europe, he has already got all these relations with London and stuff, and the new studio is I think based in Edmonton
. Europe is giving all the interest etc that they never got as part of Blizzard etc... so I think that's his path going forward.

As I said J Allen probably should go to EA at some point... Alex should make his own studio and I think increasingly has the means
to do so....

Chris and Sam are obviously totally invested in the story parts and probably will continue that in parts.

Bonfire is 5-6 yars years in and isn't that big of a problem.

Kevin like I said is pretty o mobile and he could easily join any of the others at any time.

John Smedley and Alan Dabiri now have the highest opportunities like anywhere on the planet so there's no issues for them.

And I think Allen and Mike just want their company back... and maybe kinda like the south a bit like Pardo... they're the coolest
and calmest customers so they don't necessarily have the big demands etc atm.