Illidari vs Scourge

[Lyssander]

Devs confirmed that Thunder King could defeat Lich King Arthas in one on one so not that much of an issue.
Elves and orcs could be easy pray for the scourge but the demons would cause a major problem.

[Kellorion]

Which of these two factions will win in a full-scale war? Illidan has all his forces at the time of BС(fel orcs, demons and others) + Demon Hunters + Kael'thas Forces + Magtheridon+Gruul and his forces
The Lich King has all his forces at the time of WOTLK + DK

so basically, the same forces they already had when they fought each other, and Illidari/Illidan lost.............

[fakaroonie]

Scourge, even though in the heat of battle, Illidan will demonrage and kill the LK and a lot of big guys, but in the end, Scourge will continue to wreck shit up.

[Terongor]

Seeing that players crushed all of illidari in tbc pretty easily and at the end wotlk scourge still had enough power to wipe out all of azeroth. So on most cases scourge would win also duribg tbc illidan didn't have any power source major enough to blow up azeroth.

[ArenaDk]

Seeing that players crushed all of illidari in tbc pretty easily and at the end wotlk scourge still had enough power to wipe out all of azeroth. So on most cases scourge would win also duribg tbc illidan didn't have any power source major enough to blow up azeroth.

Can you source that ? Wiping out all of Azeroth ?

[Terongor]

Can you source that ? Wiping out all of Azeroth ?

"There is... something else that you should know about the Lich King. Control over the Scourge must never be lost. Even if you were to strike down the Lich King, another would have to take his place. For without the control of its master, the Scourge would run rampant across the world - destroying all living things."https://wow.gamepedia.com/Frostmourne_(Alliance)#Notes wiping out from my words means destroying all life.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/2721372142
Q. The "There must always be a Lich King" mantra seemed awfully suspicious, coming from ghosts trapped in Frostmourne. Was there something else going on there?
A. To save people from generating elaborate conspiracy theories, we'll be serious for a moment and say, definitively, no. The ghosts of Uther and Terenas understood that the Scourge would run rampant without someone to keep them in check. Yes, that does also mean that Arthas and Ner'zhul were not unleashing the full force of the Scourge during their respective reigns: you are welcome to speculate on the reasons for that.

[ArenaDk]

"There is... something else that you should know about the Lich King. Control over the Scourge must never be lost. Even if you were to strike down the Lich King, another would have to take his place. For without the control of its master, the Scourge would run rampant across the world - destroying all living things."https://wow.gamepedia.com/Frostmourne_(Alliance)#Notes wiping out from my words means destroying all life.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/2721372142
Q. The "There must always be a Lich King" mantra seemed awfully suspicious, coming from ghosts trapped in Frostmourne. Was there something else going on there?
A. To save people from generating elaborate conspiracy theories, we'll be serious for a moment and say, definitively, no. The ghosts of Uther and Terenas understood that the Scourge would run rampant without someone to keep them in check. Yes, that does also mean that Arthas and Ner'zhul were not unleashing the full force of the Scourge during their respective reigns: you are welcome to speculate on the reasons for that.

You know the one who said this doesn’t know about: true power of the aspects , loa, wild gods , Deathwing , pandaria, old gods and other important informations which only we have? He only knows the scourge defeated the high elf’s ( and only because they got betrayed ) and Dalaran.

The scourge doesn’t even has a weapon strong enough to fight Deathwing. How are they supposed to destroy all life ?

[Terongor]

You know the one who said this doesn’t know about: true power of the aspects , loa, wild gods , Deathwing , pandaria, old gods and other important informations which only we have? He only knows the scourge defeated the high elf’s ( and only because they got betrayed ) and Dalaran.

The scourge doesn’t even has a weapon strong enough to fight Deathwing. How are they supposed to destroy all life ?

Wild gods aren't that strong in chronicles 3 grom soloed cenarius who was one of the strongest wild gods. Old gods and void creature aren't excatly life in wow universe. Also scourge then ressurecting likes of galakrond and masses they can upheld so they. Also they never unleashed full force of the scourge as loas, wild gods nor aspects would work together so scourge could win.

[ArenaDk]

Wild gods aren't that strong in chronicles 3 grom soloed cenarius who was one of the strongest wild gods. Old gods and void creature aren't excatly life in wow universe. Also scourge then ressurecting likes of galakrond and masses they can upheld so they. Also they never unleashed full force of the scourge as loas, wild gods nor aspects would work together so scourge could win.

Galakrond lost to the aspects ah their weakest?

And again. Even if the scourge would defeat the wild gods and aspects somehow.

What do they do against Deathwing ? Deathwing tanked a direct hit by the dragon soul , you know that thing which destroyed a whole blue flight in seconds.

[AngryCoco]

Galakrond lost to the aspects ah their weakest?

And again. Even if the scourge would defeat the wild gods and aspects somehow.

What do they do against Deathwing ? Deathwing tanked a direct hit by the dragon soul , you know that thing which destroyed a whole blue flight in seconds.

Galakrond fucking choked to death, it's quite sad really.

[Trikszter]

Wild gods aren't that strong in chronicles 3 grom soloed cenarius who was one of the strongest wild gods. Old gods and void creature aren't excatly life in wow universe. Also scourge then ressurecting likes of galakrond and masses they can upheld so they. Also they never unleashed full force of the scourge as loas, wild gods nor aspects would work together so scourge could win.

grom soloed afetr he drank the second time from the blood of mannoroth. thats a big difference.

By the way Scourge would decimate the Illidari, because their numbers are basicly endless. the more die, the bigger the scourge become. Plain and simple.
Lei Shen's army would have lost to the scourge according to devs, and he had an army...

[Terongor]

Galakrond lost to the aspects ah their weakest?

And again. Even if the scourge would defeat the wild gods and aspects somehow.

What do they do against Deathwing ? Deathwing tanked a direct hit by the dragon soul , you know that thing which destroyed a whole blue flight in seconds.

I mean we don't know what would have truly comed out of the that war and also as DW was so void infused at that point could truly define him as truly alive thing on azeroth but I'm not here to argue about the scourge as that statement itself which blizzs say about it have flaws but its still gives us a comperable strenght as illidari would stand even less of a chance.

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grom soloed afetr he drank the second time from the blood of mannoroth. thats a big difference.

By the way Scourge would decimate the Illidari, because their numbers are basicly endless. the more die, the bigger the scourge become. Plain and simple.
Lei Shen's army would have lost to the scourge according to devs, and he had an army...

We have seen wild gods and loas before fall pretty easily too like what drakkari did in northrend.

Yeah scourge would win.

[DrMcNinja]

Depends on which Scourge and assuming it's the Illidan who got retconned out of death.

If it's the Scourge which goes unchecked by Arthas/Bolvar, the Scourge would win without question.
If it's the Scourge with its full potential held back, Illidan would stand a chance. Albeit very slim.