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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    I think you need to check what democracy means.
    If by democracy you mean 'mob rule', then yeah. Very broad term. Sweden is a democracy, Turkey is a democracy, Venezuela is a democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButterBeast View Post
    we should just close our eyes and pretend that the rightwing aint getting more and more radicalized.


    https://www.adl.org/murder-and-extremism-2018
    Aren't they the people that took the OK sign prank seriously?

    It's hard to take people who think that was a legitimate thing as a credible source for things related to White Extremists.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
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    Read the report. Separatist terrorism is grouped with ethno-nationalist terrorism.

    This is a quote from the 2018 europol report:
    The number of individuals arrested in relation to RWE offences almost doubled in 2017 (11 in 2015; 12 in 2016; 20 in 2017). The vast majority (15) were reported by France. Of the 20 people arrested, 16 were arrested for preparing an attack, 3 for committing an attack and one for inciting and/or praising terrorism.
    Which suggests that there is a steep increase in right wing extremism and the possibility of terror attacks that come with them. Which is exactly in line with what the OP's article suggests.
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    Probably some truth to it. People rarely give up their hegemony willingly, and that's essentially what's happening in the US. While 'white men' will be the most powerful group of people in the nation for a while yet, the age of them being the unchallenged leaders of the nation is coming to an end.
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  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    I knew it, the Separatists are the real danger.

    Quote Originally Posted by cface View Post
    Cause what are the left without their enemy right?
    What is Fox News without theirs?

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    You don't face ostracization nor will you go to jail for criticism of multiculturalism.
    If you criticize Islam you can, so yes. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Kami Dende View Post
    Aren't they the people that took the OK sign prank seriously?

    It's hard to take people who think that was a legitimate thing as a credible source for things related to White Extremists.
    The left is unable to understand such nuances. They need a victim group. Their whole world is built on the oppressor vs oppressed. Lately that's been failing. Look at Smollett - when your country is so great that you have to hire people to oppress you

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Oh, and also this guy:



    This guy:



    This guy is a white natioanlist, just look at that avatar:



    This guy:



    I'm sensing a pattern.
    Threads like these are always great because they all come out to defend themselves.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked View Post
    The left is unable to understand such nuances. They need a victim group. Their whole world is built on the oppressor vs oppressed. Lately that's been failing. Look at Smollett - when your country is so great that you have to hire people to oppress you
    So Jussie fakes an attack a single attack and tens of thousands of hate crimes are invalidated by that?

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    White nationalism is fine because they aren't in war zones that is your point, you are way too much on the nose with yours.
    White nationalism isn't fine. What's also not fine is people like you trying to make the needle in the haystack an elephant when in the last month white extremists (which was a statistical anomaly btw) only amounted to 1.2% of all terrorist attacks.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    They're also saying there's basically no antisemitism in sweden. They also say there's high rates of antisemitism in other countries due to them fucking up the survey by translating it wrongly, not amending it after people told them they fucked it up.

    Jews actually living here don't look on them favorably.

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    No, you can't.
    Eh, yes you can. You obviously don't know we are part of the EU.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-ruled/574174/

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Fojos View Post
    Eh, yes you can. You obviously don't know we are part of the EU.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-ruled/574174/
    That has absolutely nothing to do with EU but EU not interferring with domestic issues brought on by a countries own laws. That's an Austria specific issue.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    White nationalism isn't fine. What's also not fine is people like you trying to make the needle in the haystack an elephant when in the last month white extremists (which was a statistical anomaly btw) only amounted to 0,012% of all terrorist attacks.
    Of course you think it's fine otherwise you wouldn't be using misleading data sets both right wing extremism and Islamic extremism share similar data points but one causes people like yours head to explode the other gets hand waved.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Trywin Hard View Post
    That has absolutely nothing to do with EU but EU not interferring with domestic issues brought on by a countries own laws. That's an Austria specific issue.
    No. Maybe you should read again. This is the EU firmly agreeing with the decision and setting a standard for what is to come in the future. I'm not surprised people from my own neighbourhood are politically retarded enough not to understand when free speech is under threat, considering most of you support limitation of it.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...istchurch.html

    Check out the article, it has some impressive infographics for the US and Europe.


    I bet you popped out of your chair and cheered when you saw the latest mental case doing a massing shooting wasn’t brown

    Who cares what color they are

    The media are racist because that sensationalism is the only thing keeping their dying industry alive, they thrive on it

    And you support it cause you get a cheap moral high off of it

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked View Post
    The left is unable to understand such nuances. They need a victim group. Their whole world is built on the oppressor vs oppressed. Lately that's been failing. Look at Smollett - when your country is so great that you have to hire people to oppress you
    Suggesting you can distill the whole political spectrum into left and right and still have a meaningful discussion about it is a misconception.

    The faking of oppression happens through out the whole spectrum.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Fojos View Post
    No. Maybe you should read again. This is the EU firmly agreeing with the decision and setting a standard for what is to come in the future.

    Maybe you should read about the case. They're not getting involved because of the domestic laws being fine. That's Austria specific laws. Not EU specific laws. In Norway, you won't go to prison for criticizing islam, in Denmark you won't go to prison for critizicing islam, in Sweden you won't go to prison for criticizing islam, in Finland you won't go to prison for criticizing islam.

    From your link:

    But here’s what’s most appalling: The ECHR’s decision was not wrong, however foolish its reasoning. E.S. “aimed at demonstrating that Muhammad was not a worthy subject of worship,” the court held, and intended to “disparage religious precepts.” If that is a crime—and in Austria it is—then she is guilty, and it falls to the people of Austria to revise their laws to protect her rights, and theirs.
    Your own link even say it's an Austrian issue.
    Last edited by Trywin Hard; 2019-04-04 at 12:23 PM.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Trywin Hard View Post
    Maybe you should read about the case. They're not getting involved because of the domestic laws being fine. That's Austria specific laws. Not EU specific laws. In Norway, you won't go to prison for criticizing islam, in Denmark you won't go to prison for critizicing islam, in Sweden you won't go to prison for criticizing islam, in Finland you won't go to prison for criticizing islam.
    Again, you're talking shit. In all of the countries you can go to prison for calling Mohammed a pedophile in public, it's considered hateful speech against a "group". Try it, bro. See how long you last after placating this in a city center.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Fojos View Post
    Again, you're talking shit. In all of the countries you can go to prison for calling Mohammed a pedophile in public, it's considered hateful speech against a "group". Try it, bro. See how long you last after placating this in a city center.
    No, you can't.

  20. #80
    Instead of being so vehemently opposed to easily observable and verifiable happenings in modern society and trying to blame it all on one of two near all-encompassing ideologies one should try to look at the common denominator and realize happy people comfortable with their lives don't commit acts of terror regardless of their persuasion.

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