Why is russian trolling even allowed? Berlin Should Pay $900 Bln in WWII Reparations

[Nights]

This is just dumb i know most countrys got small tweeks to history here and there but trying to rewrite it is just dumb. Reead about Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact its a histrical fact not an opinion.

[unbound]

Does this site reach it's zombie audience? It just keeps on pumping out articles with one side facts, ignoring everything bad the ussr/russia did/does and making everyone else as the bad ones.

Of course it works. Just look at Fox News here in the US...it doesn't fool the majority of people, but there is a significant minority that is fooled by it.

You don't have to fool everyone all the time to be effective. You just have to fool some of the people all the time and fool some of the people some of the time. It is quit effective overall.

[Visor]

As I remember USSR do not even "occupy" Poland in 1939. Do you remember any battle between Poland forces and USSR? Poland government allow USSR forces to come here. After nazi invasion. To help Poland. Also this territory was previously Russian. That wasn't "random border". USSR simply retakes what was theirs. So it was like Crimea return - w/o any blood. Also I don't think Polish Jews had any chance to survive in other case (if nazi occupy Poland completely). Polish nation survived ONLY because of USSR. Ofc soviet occupation after ww2 wasn't something pleasure. But if compare with total annihilation that was promised by nazi - it wasn't so bad. If combined Europe raised nazi and hardly support them(except GB) why USSR must trust them? So later occupation happened to prevent similar situation once again. Now we have combined Europe once again and "post USSR" who are rdy to get some answers. Most likely it ends aint good for EU.

p.s. also about occupation. Germany still occupied by USA. And what? Somebody rly care about that? Not German politics at least.

[Doleman]

Well remembered comrade Visor.

[josykay]

As I remember USSR do not even "occupy" Poland in 1939. Do you remember any battle between Poland forces and USSR? Poland government allow USSR forces to come here. After nazi invasion. To help Poland. Also this territory was previously Russian. That wasn't "random border". USSR simply retakes what was theirs. So it was like Crimea return - w/o any blood. Also I don't think Polish Jews had any chance to survive in other case (if nazi occupy Poland completely). Polish nation survived ONLY because of USSR. Ofc soviet occupation after ww2 wasn't something pleasure. But if compare with total annihilation that was promised by nazi - it wasn't so bad. If combined Europe raised nazi and hardly support them(except GB) why USSR must trust them? So later occupation happened to prevent similar situation once again. Now we have combined Europe once again and "post USSR" who are rdy to get some answers. Most likely it ends aint good for EU.

p.s. also about occupation. Germany still occupied by USA. And what? Somebody rly care about that? Not German politics at least.

Yeah, and Germany took only what was theirs prior to WW1. Right. /sarcasm off.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Poland is probably trying to get Germany to pay them because when looking at the two its obvious which one is softer and likely to cave. I mean they are allowing the Muslim take over of Europe so why not try to get 900 billion from them on the way out.

[Najnaj]

Basically how history has been written for the past 80 years. Russia got away with so much during the WW2 time, because they were our allies. Russia also got away with blaming Germany for war crimes that they themselves committed...

Then you take a look at this map, and you start to notice things.

That map is showing some very questionable differences and getting that wrong while they are at it. What makes the real difference is it the camp was set up for fast extermination or as a labor camp and Auschwitz - Birkenau was a labor camp even if it was the most deadly due to size and location.

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https://sputniknews.com/europe/20190...world-war-two/



''Poland must demand reparations from Germany for World War II, worth at least $ 900 billion, Janusz Szewczak, a member of the parliamentary group dealing with the issue, told the Polish magazine WPolityce.''

And this is coming from a russian troll news site.

Just look at this - ''Germany invaded Poland on 1 September 1939, in response to a false flag attack on the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz the day beforehand, marking the beginning of the war. It took Germany just over a month to occupy Poland, which was liberated by Soviet troops only in 1945.''

LIBERATED... ussr occupied poland with the rest of east europe after defeating the nazis!!!
I'm just asking, how can someone so retarded and mind boggling stupid exist?

Does this site reach it's zombie audience? It just keeps on pumping out articles with one side facts, ignoring everything bad the ussr/russia did/does and making everyone else as the bad ones.

Well yes, the Soviets did liberate Poland from the Nazis. Acknowledging this does not mean that you approve of what happened next.

Sputnik is a shit Putin propaganda site but that does not mean that everything they print is wrong.

[arandomuser]

Forcing Germany to pay reparations was one of the main contributing factors to the rise of the Nazi party and the eventuality of WWII.

thats a lie, the population just simply hated jews and wanted to exterminate them. If i said " isis only exists because of us foreign policy of propping up brutal dictators" you would say no it exist because they believe their book literally and call me a terrorist apologist. So you are basically being a nazi apologist by extrapolating other reasons for the nazi party winning other than the fact that the population simply hated jews.

[Knaar]

If they want Germany to pay some reparation, i'd say they should pay based on the inflation of 1945, not with the inflation up to 2019

[George Lucas]

Poland took a third of Germany's territory, I think that is way more worth than any reperations they would have gotten instead, if the Sowjets wouldn't have subjugated them.

[Deletedaccount1]

I think Germany has indirectly paid their reparations through subsidizing the EU for all the countries they invaded.

[P for Pancetta]

thats a lie, the population just simply hated jews and wanted to exterminate them. If i said " isis only exists because of us foreign policy of propping up brutal dictators" you would say no it exist because they believe their book literally and call me a terrorist apologist. So you are basically being a nazi apologist by extrapolating other reasons for the nazi party winning other than the fact that the population simply hated jews.

I know you're trolling but for the people actually interested in history, germans didn't hate jews specifically, a lot did obviously. The main reason for this was that during the revolution that occurred just after ww1 the losing side where the socialists and communists who's leadership mainly consisted of jewish people. This was later used as a "proof" of why al jews where bad.

[lonely zergling]

I think we already paid the reparations with all the cars the polish thiefs have stolen from us since then.

[HannahBaker]

Because they are angry people

[Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang]

Well, considering Germany finished paying WW1 reparations in 2010...

IMHO I doubt any State would be foolish enough to open that Pandora's box, especially with all the 1945 ethnic cleansing and border shifts.

From what I've heard, there are indeed Poles that are set on being entitled reparations, but on the other hand, most of those living in the lands lost by Germany after 1945 had always been scared that the Germans would come back and ask for their houses and lands back...

[AeneasBK]

I know you're trolling but for the people actually interested in history, germans didn't hate jews specifically, a lot did obviously. The main reason for this was that during the revolution that occurred just after ww1 the losing side where the socialists and communists who's leadership mainly consisted of jewish people. This was later used as a "proof" of why al jews where bad.

Pretty sure that was the point he is making...

[Harbour]

Im not surprised people on mmo-champion know so little about history. Yeah, and also USSR ate poland people alive.

[Ermelloth]

Well, these two countries dislike each other for many generations...

The conflict began in Middle Ages, in times of so-called "Grand Duchy of Lithuania" (Polish-Lithuanian-Teutonic blend). In a time period between 1500s and 1650s it was Poland, who was the aggressor and who invaded Russia several times and even tried to tamper with Russian throne succession (allied themselves with an imposter and traitor Falsedmitry 1 in early 1600s).

Then, after Polish invaders were repelled by new Romanov czar dynasty, in latter centuries the tides turned and it was Russian Empire who conquered Poland and occupied half of it. Later, in XX century, Poland and Russia engaged in a war in early 1920s, when the idiot Tukhachevsky failed to defeat Pilsodsky's army and occupy Warsaw and therefore Poland retained its independence (sorry if I didn't type the names correctly, I don't know how to spell them right in Polish language since I don't speak it). Then, of course, USSR signed that shameful non-aggression pact with damned Nazis and divided Poland into two occupation zones again. And, finally, the vile execution of few thousands of Polish officers in Katyn forest...

It goes on and on, and I believe there will never be loving relationship between the two countries. So no surprise that one side trolls the other from time to time.

P.S. I don't justify Russian actions by any means, however, when speaking about Poland, there is a lot of unpleasant stuff that I, a man of Jewish origins, cannot ignore. There are a lot of things that, when speaking of Poland and Polish nation, Jewish people can never forgive and forget.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Basically how history has been written for the past 80 years. Russia got away with so much during the WW2 time, because they were our allies. Russia also got away with blaming Germany for war crimes that they themselves committed...

Then you take a look at this map, and you start to notice things.

The two things I notice, one is that the death camps were in the east. The were still run by Nazi Germany. The other is that every time some American Trumpkin says that the "Detention centers" where hispanics are being held (some legal citizens) can't be called concentration camps because concentration camp implies killing them. In reality, Nazi Germany wasn't killing people in camps until close to the end of its history, and were detaining people of the wrong ethnicity for a long time before death camps ever began. So my point there still stands against the unwashed American right, that these places where children are held in cages and people are treated inhumanely are concentration camps. But that's off topic, kek.

[Charge me Doctor]

In other words, Nazi Germany did nothing wrong (c)??

How the fuck do you come to this conclusion after reading that post?