Chicago reports 24 shootings and five murders in one weekend

[Saucexorzski]

we need a forced cultural change in these areas.

send in the military and execute every single gang member. outlaw hiphop and rap, give incentives to either not have children, or to keep two partners together to raise the child.

I just think this would reinforce their current mentaily.

[Saucexorzski]

If the goal is to reduce crime than you provide people a means to do so. I do agree that decriminalization of drugs is probably the most important thing. It also needs to clear the record of anyone without a violent crime so it won't hurt them in any future prospects.

I think if the US had a jobs program for infrastructure maintenance and projects it would go a long way in helping people in poor communities. It's not a handout, an nd its work that needs to be done.

I want to agree with this so much because many folks are in for true non violent crimes. how ever..many are also in there for drug position because THAT was the only charge they could prove in court. Its a catch 22 for sure. id probably begrudgingly accept it though.

[Worvon]

Weird how homicide rates spiked after the handgun ban was reversed and after concealed carry was legalized there. Funny part is there are still idiots on the reich that think guns are outlawed there.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

we need a forced cultural change in these areas.

send in the military and execute every single gang member. outlaw hiphop and rap, give incentives to either not have children, or to keep two partners together to raise the child.

That sounds like a god awful idea and like it would just change violance to target the state instead which would get massive support from other places that were uninvolved before hand.

[Nathreim]

All the gun laws in the world cant help you if you dont ENFORCE THEM!

Constantly giving low sentences for gun crimes + letting felons with gun convictions out early = high gun crime.

They just let a cop killer out even though he was sentenced to freaking death twice.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/feature...er-to-go-free/

[Ealyssa]

And not a single one of those firearms were legally obtained! #guncontrollol

So straight from the factory to the hands of criminals ? Something is missing in your narrative.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Wait, you mean you want to end the cycle of generational poverty and dependence on the government? and thereby removing the motivation for politicians to use these folks as political chattel in their quest for power? Now you know we cant allow that. Not to mention, of course, your idea would be frowned upon in our society.

You are aware derps idea reinforces dependence on the government not the other way round right? They would depend on the government to tell them what they can and can’t listen to, what cultural practices they can andncant partake in. Depend on the government to give them bonuses to not have kids ect ect.

[zenkai]

Yeah. Because murder rates of a large city is definitely comparable to a family losing kids.

The fact that you made that statement, just goes to show me you are a complete moron.

It was about the number of loss, Ghostpanther understood what I said and what I was going for, but he's rational and intelligent.

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Economic stimulus, decriminalization of drugs, more robust adult education, and jobs training?

Great idea, if everything was made legal there wouldn't be crime, right?

[Paranoid Android]

Common sense would be to you know, close the southern border to the flow of drugs and gang bangers. Let the police do their jobs instead of sending them to sensitivity training, spending funds/time on body cam usage and perhaps letting the average citizen arm themselves in self-defense.

As it is Chicago is getting exactly what it voted for, the policies its political overlords have demanded their subjects live under and sorry to say I only feel bad for the children involved.

Any adult in Chicago deserves the city they’ve endorsed through years of stupid voting. Oh and they voted in 3-4 Democratic Socialists and their new black lesbian mayor who checked off all the diversity boxes will be a much needed positive influence on the city. I’m sure the common sense will only flow in much greater quantity than has previously existed.....

Common sense would be

Seems your post doesn't have much common sense you speak of.

First closing the borders wouldn't stop or do any great reduction in drugs across the border. We have talked about this at nauseam and many articles that almost all drugs come thru a port of entry by truck or ship. Second the gang problem is a result of our drug policies and many other factors. I am not going to go every point on gangs but again, you thinking closing the border cause you listen to Fox News about MS13 is not a solution.

Again, you like to attack the politicians and this is pretty much what this article is about and what the OP secretly wants to get at. It's an attack on a political party that you don't like. Now I am a Woke Independent and you can honestly criticize the leadership and on political party being in power too long. I could easily attack states run by a certain party and wonder why they don't change party politics. If you want cities to vote for the other party but don't say the same about states, then its partisan hack. Maybe you don't believe this, but trust me most people here attack city about violence is really a political attack more than anything.

Your last paragraph again proves my point where you are attacking the mayor's sexual orientation and nothing else. So my point is proven.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Great idea, if everything was made legal there wouldn't be crime, right?

If less minor crimes got you jail time less people would have a record which negatively impacts there ability to find solid work and put more into there community’s. Less people would also come out of jails that have heavy gang presences where you are likly to turn to a gang to not be targeted by them which then leads to many going to said gangs once they get out.

[triplesdsu]

Because it is physically impossible to go to one of the surrounding states to get a legal firearm, right?

/facepalm



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1a0b75d06397

Those guns coming in are still illegally obtained by the people who ultimately get them. Those people woudlnt be able to legally obtain them in other states. They're being illegally trafficked and sold. its no different than drugs being brought in from else where. You wouldnt claim those drugs were "legally obtained".

[Misuteri]

I’m not attacking a mayor’s sexual orientation and you’ve proven nothing.

I’m saying checklist “intersectional” politicians are elected on no other basis than; black (Check), woman (Check), lesbian (Check). Hell, lets pull the lever for her! She’s three check boxes in one!

Qualified? Nope. Experienced? Nope. Sound judgement based on proven results? Nope.

Not an attack, just stating Democrat voters vote on “diversity” more than ability.

Then they wonder why they get such miserable results. I wouldn’t have attacked Richard Daley in 1968 for what the cops did but someone like him would never, ever be mayor of a major city in today’s Democratic machine cities.

[ellieg]

Funny how when you account for suicides with a fire arm, fire arm homicides are lower per capita in the surrounding states with the "lax gun laws" compared to Chicago. But sure, blame the other states and not Chicago, for Chicago's problems

[Surreality]

I can't tell if you are being racist, or you legit don't know what genocide is...

There is one gang in the US that has a verified membership of 346,000 members. Even if all other gangs combined have that number, killing all the gangs (it's members) would definitely classify as a massacre of epic proportions. Maybe not genocide since there are a scattered few that aren't black or hispanic. Although it is a well known fact that the vast majority of gangs are comprised of exactly those two races.

[Moadar]

Economic stimulus, decriminalization of drugs, more robust adult education, and jobs training?

How do you think that would play out in reality? I've seen gang members sit in a class room and theres no educating them. You either get these people when they are young and away from single mother make-a-murderer factories or you lose the vast majority of them by early teens. Adult bangers are best left locked up and forgotten about, focus on the youth.

[Seranthor]

There is one gang in the US that has a verified membership of 346,000 members. Even if all other gangs combined have that number, killing all the gangs (it's members) would definitely classify as a massacre of epic proportions. Maybe not genocide since there are a scattered few that aren't black or hispanic. Although it is a well known fact that the vast majority of gangs are comprised of exactly those two races.

Call it post birth abortion... I'm sure that would make it far more palatable to many.

[beanman12345]

I mean I hate to defend Zenkai on literally anything because this is obviously bait, but per capita crime rates probably don't really matter much to someone living in Chicago watching this shit happen.

nope you are wrong. I don't feel unsafe in the slightest going out. Of course I don't want to see anyone die, but its not as big a deal as some sensationalists make it.

[zenkai]

If less minor crimes got you jail time less people would have a record which negatively impacts there ability to find solid work and put more into there community’s. Less people would also come out of jails that have heavy gang presences where you are likly to turn to a gang to not be targeted by them which then leads to many going to said gangs once they get out.

There are all kinds of outreach programs for convicted criminals as long as they are not a POS.

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It's almost like you don't care what people said and only want to infer your own bias into your reply. Why even make a post at all if you're just going to mischaracterize whatever someone says?

An I suppose to care what a guy who uses insults to communicate has to say? Nope.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

There are all kinds of outreach programs for convicted criminals as long as they are not a POS.

Is there any reason to not make it so less people neee to use said programs or less people get involved with gangs before they even have an option to use such programs?

[Draco-Onis]

How do you think that would play out in reality? I've seen gang members sit in a class room and theres no educating them. You either get these people when they are young and away from single mother make-a-murderer factories or you lose the vast majority of them by early teens. Adult bangers are best left locked up and forgotten about, focus on the youth.

Perhaps create a system where the adults are not seen as cows to be milked but people that they want to re-educate and be better members of society. The United States prison system is designed to increase recidivism (80% after 5 years) that was not always the case.