Level 20's Can Use Mount Equipment

[Onikaroshi]

So only DKs and Shaman will be able to effectively use dazed protection with water walking as these classes have it by default.

Next patch notes: Removed- Path of Frost and Water Walking. Developers notes: Fuck you.

[Big Thanks]

I'd like to see some of my other mounts, not the waterstrider bug.

Then...use them?
I dont understand the problem.

[iamthedevil]

So we're getting a waterstrider that can no longer stride on water? Nice.

[Kathranis]

Seems pretty stupid. Just make more mounts that have “waterwalking”. This is easily done by enabling it for flying mounts, as they should clearly be able to fly over water anyway.

Your solution is way, way more stupid than just giving us an item that lets you waterwalk with whatever your favorite mount is. Which is what they're doing.

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So we're getting a waterstrider that can no longer stride on water? Nice.

Any mount can stride on water now.

[Ooid]

Nice, I thought it was silly that it only worked after 100. Right now I can use my water strider while leveling so removing it would be unfun.

[Puupi]

do you want water walking or daze protection? you cant have both

As a blood dk, you can have both and more.

[Alvito]

Yes, but it will cost a lot of gold. Investing so much gold on every alt when a simple Waterstrider would have served cheaper purposes seems to be a lame gold sink. With so many allied races and the desire to level them to unlock their heritage, the gold cost will start piling up quickly.

I think the mount bardings should be account bound mods on a mount.

Good news people can still get their water crickets. So now they have a choice, do it the old way or pay up. Nothing was lost this is a rather nice improvement for all players.

[Onikaroshi]

As a blood dk, you can have both and more.

Next Next Patch notes: Tanks no longer have daze protectiong Developers note: We really hate our players

[Schizoide]

Ahh. That's perfectly fine, then.

Did anyone say whether equipment is mount-specific or shared?

Regarding paying up, they said mount equipment would be tuned to cost around 1000g at current inflation levels, which is really very little money.

Actually, since mounts are account-wide, maybe the equipment is too? So you equip water walking on your moose on your 120, and every character's moose has it?

[SinR]

Who needs Water Walking when you can FLY

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also, what good is water walking when it'll break on the first melee hit you take?

[Lothaeryn]

Just use an underwater mount, Works almost as well as the waterstrider

that, or just use the Angler's fishing raft. always came in handy more than the mount did.

[Spotnick]

So only DKs and Shaman will be able to effectively use dazed protection with water walking as these classes have it by default.

Blood DKs already have water walking and daze protection, this gives them safe fall as well.

[Raetary]

Nice, I thought it was silly that it only worked after 100. Right now I can use my water strider while leveling so removing it would be unfun.

Just send the WW equip to your alt.
Problem solved.

[Poe]

Blood DKs already have water walking and daze protection, this gives them safe fall as well.

Now that's overpowered.

[Scrysis]

Then...use them?
I dont understand the problem.

With the mount equipment changes, I will be able to now! :-D

[Xanadrienne]

Just send the WW equip to your alt.
Problem solved.

No. Problem not solved. At least not on the PTR right now. Yes, you can mail the equip to your alt. The equipment itself says it requires Level 20. So far, so good. But when you open up the mount journal on that alt, the equipment slot is unavailable -- it tells you it's unlocked at Level 100. It tells you that even if you already do have a toon or toons at Level 100 or greater. Even if you've successfully applied mount equipment for that higher level character. That's not the way they've said it's supposed to work. Either that, or I'm an idiot.

[Tazr]

Yes, but it will cost a lot of gold. Investing so much gold on every alt when a simple Waterstrider would have served cheaper purposes seems to be a lame gold sink. With so many allied races and the desire to level them to unlock their heritage, the gold cost will start piling up quickly.

I think the mount bardings should be account bound mods on a mount.

THIS. Totally this. They need to grandfather the water walking mounts, and they need to SERIOUSLY lower the cost of the equipment pieces. If you can't trust that things you've worked for won't be taken away, why even bother playing?

This is just another heavy-handed way to increase MAU without adding content. Limited ways to earn gold (tons of grindy content that rewards ZERO gold but can eat your armor) plus tons of different gold sinks = more time in game grinding, unless you want to buy and sell tokens. This one particularly screws over altoholics.

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that, or just use the Angler's fishing raft. always came in handy more than the mount did.

Who wants to grind the Angler's raft on every. single. toon? Last I checked, required rep to use, which I only have on two toons.

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Ahh. That's perfectly fine, then.

Did anyone say whether equipment is mount-specific or shared?

Regarding paying up, they said mount equipment would be tuned to cost around 1000g at current inflation levels, which is really very little money.

Actually, since mounts are account-wide, maybe the equipment is too? So you equip water walking on your moose on your 120, and every character's moose has it?

Equipment is per character. If you have a lot of alts - particularly if you are a multi-boxer - it will be stupidly expensive.

[Lothaeryn]

Who wants to grind the Angler's raft on every. single. toon? Last I checked, required rep to use, which I only have on two toons.

A. The angler's raft has been a TOY since WoD/Legion, meaning you only needed to obtain it once with a single character.

B. The angler's raft required a fishing skill of 550 or so to use, which was pandaria level fishing. As of BFA, all profession brackets from expansions are modular instead of cumulative (you just learn each expansion range/mastery when you hit that level now) you literally just need to be level 75-90 to use it after learning the pandaria fishing(1).

C. maybe read up on changes before spouting out of date information?

D. the new system will award you with a water walking item you can re-equip to the Waterstrider so it works just as it did before. So there is literally no issue with how it is being changed.

[niztheundead87]

THIS. Totally this. They need to grandfather the water walking mounts, and they need to SERIOUSLY lower the cost of the equipment pieces. If you can't trust that things you've worked for won't be taken away, why even bother playing?

This is just another heavy-handed way to increase MAU without adding content. Limited ways to earn gold (tons of grindy content that rewards ZERO gold but can eat your armor) plus tons of different gold sinks = more time in game grinding, unless you want to buy and sell tokens. This one particularly screws over altoholics.

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Who wants to grind the Angler's raft on every. single. toon? Last I checked, required rep to use, which I only have on two toons.

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Equipment is per character. If you have a lot of alts - particularly if you are a multi-boxer - it will be stupidly expensive.

The raft is a toy,if you have it all your Alts can use it

[Amerissis]

No. Problem not solved. At least not on the PTR right now. Yes, you can mail the equip to your alt. The equipment itself says it requires Level 20. So far, so good. But when you open up the mount journal on that alt, the equipment slot is unavailable -- it tells you it's unlocked at Level 100. It tells you that even if you already do have a toon or toons at Level 100 or greater. Even if you've successfully applied mount equipment for that higher level character. That's not the way they've said it's supposed to work. Either that, or I'm an idiot.

Or... it's a bug! Report it. They clearly stated you can use equipment on your level 20+ alt after you unlocked it with your level 100+, so if you can't, it's not working as intended a.k.a. a bug and they'll fix it.