I think they have a reason for the water strider specifically - if they don't remove the waterwalking ability from it, then people will just continue to use the water strider, because it would have both waterwalking and something else from the slot. (They could perhaps disallowed the water strider to have the slot, but that's worse than what they did, less flexible.) So, that's the reason to remove waterwalking from the water strider - because otherwise the change does not free people to use other mounts.
They don't remove herbing from the sky golem because they think they don't have to do it, and it is better not to remove things when you can help it - this is exactly what you are talking about with "changes for zero reason", they are trying to have as few of changes that seem arbitrary / exceptional as possible. Do you think the sky golem will now be the new water strider because they didn't remove herbing from it? If so, then they should remove it, agree. But I am not sure this will happen.
What they did here makes sense to me.
Anti-daze is pretty useless when you can fly, too. I seriously doubt it will prevent the PvP item from knocking you off, which is the only real threat of being dismounted while flying. For me, I'll just have water walking on everyone but my DKs and shaman for the zones we can't fly in, and everything will be exactly as it is now except I'll be able to use whatever mount I want when I need to walk on water instead of the water strider.
Except they aren't taking away anyone's water walking ability either. You'll still be able to walk on water if you want (and do so cheaper than those without the rep), you'll just have alternatives now.
Last edited by seleri; 2019-04-16 at 07:24 AM.
They should have just held off until they could implement a full mount 3x2 talent system just like battle pets have, unique to each mount.
Are you serious, there is water everywhere in zones where water walking is needed. Just step on a puddle aaaaand, problem solved ffs.
No you dont have to swim, just step in any puddle of water -_- you lose 1.5 sec... it takes much more time to cross water in Nazmir
Yeah you're just nitpicking, Mr World Revamp
And guess what, that's why I'm GLAD we got that equipement, I wont have to do that anymore....
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He isn't nitpicking.
The process you describe is: invoke the mount at the flightmaster - run into the water - dismount - reinvoke the mount - run with waterwalking.
The process he wants is: invoke the mount at the flightmaster - run with waterwalking.
It's QoA. Those 1.5 secs you are talking about are annoying and add up into minutes per evening (and they aren't 1.5 secs, they are longer). If they can be removed, they should be removed. It's not life-or-death, but it isn't nitpicking at all.
I agree. I think it's a nice change but it definitely isn't exactly the most exciting thing they've ever done. Hopefully this won't be a one and done thing and they'll tweak it and make it more interesting as the game goes on.
I'm not fond of the mount families system though. I feel like it's either tedious or bland with not much room in between. Would much rather them expand on mount equipment, like adding different slots for different activities. The currently announced ones could be for convenience, they could add ones for professions, ones for combat, etc. Then people can customize as they want instead of feeling "forced" to use a particular kind of mount, like some people feel is the case with the water striders.
Last edited by seleri; 2019-04-16 at 07:43 AM.
I'm actually glad I won't have to use the water strider, so it's a nice addition... Why are people always so negative about EVERYTHING in wow ?
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Thats exacly why they are implementing this new system, you wont have to do it anymore. So why complaining ? -_-" Please read the previous posts too...
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It will totally be abused in PVP... if you could leap or charge while mounted, I dont even see the point of this
Hopefully this is just the 1.0 version of a much better system to come in the future.
Mount equipment could be to a mount talent system what void storage was to the transmog system.
Seems like there taking it away from the waterstrider in order to make the ability a vendor consumable. So you end up having to buy more each time you switch it out. They could have left the waterstrider alone and just added the equipment option for players that would rather use it. If you could switch it out without having to buy more. That would actually be a good thing, but they aren't having it like that. Like with the portals, just seems like alot of these changes are to force players to spend more time getting around. But if the changes cause players to lose interests in the game more. Gonna be interesting to see whose name is on the next layoff list when it comes around.
This change cant come fast enough. Never again will I use water strider, and use sky golem only on my goblins.
The whole debate is bizzare and holds zero merit.
Hehe. People get the choice between water walking, daze protection, etc. How dare Blizzard make us choose - and not give us ALL of it!!
Thread summed up, pretty much.
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The only bad thing about this new system is that everyone with an ounce of forethought knows that Blizzard will use this as a means to fuck us over in the next expansion. Then suddenly the item won't work there anymore and our waterstriders ceased working as well by default, therfore screwing us out of even that little bit of relief from the tedium of the daily grind. For the next patch, the issue is just that the feature comes in the same patch were we get flying anyway..
The whole point of the system is that you're supposed to choose what's most important to you. If the water strider remains unchanged, everyone will grab the daze immunity and switch to the water strider whenever they need water walking, essentially changing nothing.
The only thing annoying about the change is the fact that we'll probably only get the water walking equipment for free on the character that earned the mount or the first character that logged in after the patch. Meanwhile you'll lose access to water walking on all your other characters where we've had access to the water strider for years.