Where is the positivity about the game?

[niztheundead87]

Take a look at the FFXIV subreddit and you'll see otherwise. Every single day there's new posts of people saying "I love this game" and other such statements. These "undesirables" actually do care about the game, more so than people like you I'd say, who seem happy to accept an inferior product to what we know Blizzard is capable of producing.

People aren't being negative about the game. They're criticizing genuine flaws in the game because we've seen how good the game can be when it's being ran by people that know how to create a fun game instead of spreadsheet heroes that have reduced the game to nothing but a giant casino where you're constantly pulling that lever hoping for a good roll.

We can concede when they do things right, the raids are great, the art department is amazing.... and then? We try to come to common ground while your type sticks your fingers in your years yelling "lalala not listening I don't want to hear the inconvenient truths!" and labels anyone that would speak up as undesirables or whiners.

people are crying about everything nowadays

[Pooti]

Positivity in general is in short supply these days.

[Xothene]

Take a look at the FFXIV subreddit and you'll see otherwise. Every single day there's new posts of people saying "I love this game" and other such statements. These "undesirables" actually do care about the game, more so than people like you I'd say, who seem happy to accept an inferior product to what we know Blizzard is capable of producing.

People aren't being negative about the game. They're criticizing genuine flaws in the game because we've seen how good the game can be when it's being ran by people that know how to create a fun game instead of spreadsheet heroes that have reduced the game to nothing but a giant casino where you're constantly pulling that lever hoping for a good roll.

We can concede when they do things right, the raids are great, the art department is amazing.... and then? We try to come to common ground while your type sticks your fingers in your years yelling "lalala not listening I don't want to hear the inconvenient truths!" and labels anyone that would speak up as undesirables or whiners.

Thank you dude, really.

[youswas]

Take a look at the FFXIV subreddit and you'll see otherwise. Every single day there's new posts of people saying "I love this game" and other such statements. These "undesirables" actually do care about the game, more so than people like you I'd say, who seem happy to accept an inferior product to what we know Blizzard is capable of producing.

People aren't being negative about the game. They're criticizing genuine flaws in the game because we've seen how good the game can be when it's being ran by people that know how to create a fun game instead of spreadsheet heroes that have reduced the game to nothing but a giant casino where you're constantly pulling that lever hoping for a good roll.

We can concede when they do things right, the raids are great, the art department is amazing.... and then? We try to come to common ground while your type sticks your fingers in your years yelling "lalala not listening I don't want to hear the inconvenient truths!" and labels anyone that would speak up as undesirables or whiners.

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what's it like being wrong

[Ifeanychukwu]

people are crying about everything nowadays

Okay so, say you spent money on and invested time into a game for 10+ years. The game is great for all those years. Then slowly, the old devs begin to leave and new people take over and start fucking everything up, turning a once enjoyable game into a glorified mobile game. Would you not be bothered by that? Even just a little bit? It's okay to complain about something that's been a part of your life for over a decade, how else would things change for the better than to say something?

[Xothene]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/searc...&restrict_sr=1

what's it like being wrong

Woaw, i see people complaining about voice acting and minors bugs, you're totally invalidating his points :eyeroll:

[Ifeanychukwu]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/searc...&restrict_sr=1

what's it like being wrong

You searched for keywords of titles. People expressing their love for the game doesn't have to be explicitly stated as so. Spend some time in the subreddit rather than doing a limited search, how about that?

[niztheundead87]

Okay so, say you spent money on and invested time into a game for 10+ years. The game is great for all those years. Then slowly, the old devs begin to leave and new people take over and start fucking everything up, turning a once enjoyable game into a glorified mobile game. Would you not be bothered by that? Even just a little bit? It's okay to complain about something that's been a part of your life for over a decade, how else would things change for the better than to say something?

maybe if the kids didnt ask for the wrong stuff in the first place :
in wotlk all dungeons were faceroll , people cried about it
in cata they were hard at first and peoplee cried about it again.

[tru]

Drustvar as a zone and the story within impressed me like no zone has done since Icecrown.

Having said that BfA is garbage. From Azerite to this new mount equipment shit... I mean basic business 101 go back to doing what you did when you had 12 million subs. Guess those record profits cant even design a new talent tree line.

[youswas]

Woaw, i see people complaining about voice acting and minors bugs, you're totally invalidating his points :eyeroll:

you are so mad at a video game that you took time to register an account stating that the game sucks. you also used :eyeroll: - i'm surprised i feel the need to debate with you, but i will do so anyway:

the point was the search revealed like 10 posts in the last year with that title, and some of them included caveats. the point is people are saying they love the game as much on wow's subreddit as on ffxiv's. you're just biased and you are not smart enough to realize it.

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Drustvar as a zone and the story within impressed me like no zone has done since Icecrown.

Having said that BfA is garbage. From Azerite to this new mount equipment shit... I mean basic business 101 go back to doing what you did when you had 12 million subs. Guess those record profits cant even design a new talent tree line.

the last time they had 12 million subs was cataclysm. i don't think we should go back to that. please use your brain it is a pretty good muscle.

[Xothene]

you are so mad at a video game that you took time to register an account stating that the game sucks. you also used :eyeroll: - i'm surprised i feel the need to debate with you, but i will do so anyway:

the point was the search revealed like 10 posts in the last year with that title, and some of them included caveats. the point is people are saying they love the game as much on wow's subreddit as on ffxiv's. you're just biased and you are not smart enough to realize it.

Yeah i'm a mad man, my blood is boiling when we're talking about BFA, i'm so mad i could ... fack.

You're a funny dude, really. The typical hardcore gamer, addicted to a game (yeah i checked your ig character profile, shame on me) and telling to someone that he's biaised because his opinion isn't the same as yours. That's some strong reverse psychology you're doing, using ad hominem trying to discredit me.
Problem is : you're paying a sub every month, not me, proof that blizzard is keeping you on a leash boy.

Pathetic :eyeroll:

[niztheundead87]

Yeah i'm a mad man, my blood is boiling when we're talking about BFA, i'm so mad i could ... fack.

You're a funny dude, really. The typical hardcore gamer, addicted to a game (yeah i checked your ig character profile, shame on me) and telling to someone that he's biaised because his opinion isn't the same as yours. That's some strong reverse psychology you're doing, using ad hominem trying to discredit me.
Problem is : you're paying a sub every month, not me, proof that blizzard is keeping you on a leash boy.

Pathetic :eyeroll:

saying i dont play the game but.... is the same as whipping yourself and saying it hurts

[Nights]

There is nothing positive about game right now, ptr looks good and they did say couple interesting things but i guess most of the community just dont trust blizz anymore after so many time they did lie about stuff.

[Freshouttajail]

Everywhere you look are mostly negative threads about the game. I understand there are things about Blizz that people don't like *lore being one, while the design team is pretty good*
WTB more positive thoughts about WoW
I'm a big fan of some of the game music myself. Example in Wrath, i'll play with the game sound on...or while in Boralus i'll have it on. There are zones that i hang out in sometimes cause they look really nice. I find the combat system pretty smooth *not clunky like other mmo's i've played*

Please list your positive aspects of the game. No negative crap please!

People have talked about the positive things a decent amount. The thing is once you just point out what's good, there's nothing else to it, we can all agree the art and music is good. And then what? There's nothing to do with this subject, our species is genetically built to notice flaws and negative things and see them as problems to solve, so we bash on what sucks in the hope to fix them. Sadly, players don't have the power to directly change anything so all they can do is yell at another bunch of people (wow devs) to send a message but the devs ego is so big they refuse to do what players suggest, instead they try to come up with something original to not look like "bad designers who have to rely on players to give them content ideas". And this is how we end up with shit like warfront and island expeditions.

[Xothene]

you are so mad at a video game that you took time to register an account stating that the game sucks. you also used :eyeroll: - i'm surprised i feel the need to debate with you, but i will do so anyway:

the point was the search revealed like 10 posts in the last year with that title, and some of them included caveats. the point is people are saying they love the game as much on wow's subreddit as on ffxiv's. you're just biased and you are not smart enough to realize it.

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the last time they had 12 million subs was cataclysm. i don't think we should go back to that. please use your brain it is a pretty good muscle.

Last time they had 12 millions subs was Wotlk bro, everytime someone is speaking about the golden Age there is 99% chances it will be wotlk, don't act more stupid than you actually are dude

[Haywire5714]

Entitlement like this is what is wrong

What's actually wrong is when a sub human moron like you comes onto this forum and responds to people with buzzwords thinking that it actually means something. Not that there's a shred of entitlement or anything even remotely related to entitlement in the post that I made, but it's clear that people like you don't think before you spout your stupid generic uninformed opinions that you've bandwagoned from some other idiots that talk on this forum.

[SirCowdog]

I guess the game could be better, i agree.~~
But you are free to create your own adventure ....

Hard stop.


I don't care what adventure you create on your own in the game. It's irrelevant. You could recreate A Midsummer Night's Dream within WoW and it still wouldn't absolve or mitigate the terrible design of the game, or the bad business practices of Acti-Blizz.

That's what you're not understanding here. By your logic I could recreate "Starry Night" using only taco-bell diarrhea if I was really motivated. That wouldn't make it good, because it would still be made by exposing myself to smelly shit and bad content. That's what you're advocating. Do I need to break out the crayons to make it understandable?

I don't mean that as an insult. But you just entirely dismissed some REALLY awful facts about WoW and Blizzard by blithely telling people that it's all ok as long as you make your own fun. WTF bro, seriously.

The kind of behavior you're displaying in regards to wow is either the type of thing that only comes about by being paid by Blizzard to do, by being young and ignorant enough to not have the context or experience to even grasp the fundamental concepts being discussed, or willful stupidity brought about by rampant addiction to the game at such a level that you literally can't recognize the problem.

Which is it?

[Queen of Hamsters]

MMO-C hasn't been the home of positivity for as long as I've been here.

But threads speculating about upcoming content seem to draw less haters and more of the players actually enjoying the game.
And let's not forget, people on MMO-C always used the extreme language to express their feels. They'll always appeal to majority by saying "and most players agree" or "majority of players have left cuz of X feature" and so on to add non-existent weight to their purely subjective views on the world.
Even during WOTLK, when we literally knew that the game had 12 million subscribers, were there people on these forums saying "Nah those are fake numbers how I feel = what the majority agrees with".

If you enjoy BfA, good for you. If you don't, sucks for you. Not a single iteration of the game saw the playerbase united whilst current, not even WoD. The game has been dead/dying since the first changes were implemented and individuals didn't like said changes on a personal level. Every expansion has been literally the worst, nothing's ever good, Blizz doesn't care and Activision are Satan incarnate.

Meanwhile, I'm starting to enjoy BfA again, slowly but surely. Feels good! Go by how YOU feel, not by how strangers on a forum known to draw the Negative Nancies of the fanbase feel.

[Big Thanks]

Hard stop.


I don't care what adventure you create on your own in the game. It's irrelevant. You could recreate A Midsummer Night's Dream within WoW and it still wouldn't absolve or mitigate the terrible design of the game, or the bad business practices of Acti-Blizz.

That's what you're not understanding here. By your logic I could recreate "Starry Night" using only taco-bell diarrhea if I was really motivated. That wouldn't make it good, because it would still be made by exposing myself to smelly shit and bad content. That's what you're advocating. Do I need to break out the crayons to make it understandable?

I don't mean that as an insult. But you just entirely dismissed some REALLY awful facts about WoW and Blizzard by blithely telling people that it's all ok as long as you make your own fun. WTF bro, seriously.

The kind of behavior you're displaying in regards to wow is either the type of thing that only comes about by being paid by Blizzard to do, by being young and ignorant enough to not have the context or experience to even grasp the fundamental concepts being discussed, or willful stupidity brought about by rampant addiction to the game at such a level that you literally can't recognize the problem.

Which is it?

People meet and get married because of WoW
Even I met a girl in WoW and we dated for a while.

Hundreads of mini stories and rivalries.
People to meet, people to talk to.

WoW is not shit.
It could be better.......SURE.

But dont tell me WoW is shit at a technical level...it even has endless possibilities.

[niztheundead87]

What's actually wrong is when a sub human moron like you comes onto this forum and responds to people with buzzwords thinking that it actually means something. Not that there's a shred of entitlement or anything even remotely related to entitlement in the post that I made, but it's clear that people like you don't think before you spout your stupid generic uninformed opinions that you've bandwagoned from some other idiots that talk on this forum.

im afraid the only moron here is you with that raging attitude of yours