Necromancer or Dark Ranger?

[Daikoku]

ye high elves are plausible too just like tinker but keep dreaming abut class that 0.1 % of players would be interested in trying out

You mean Dark Ranger?

[Daikoku]

While I do believe Tinker is next, they sure have put a lot of "dark ranger stuff" into the game over the last two expansions (including some sort of scenario in the datamining).
Suspicious.
Meanwhile - can anyone name one famous necromancer who isn't now a Lich?

Like?

Because for Tinkers we got Mounts/NPC/MechaSuit/Mechagnomes/Mechanical Pet/Mechagon an entire Region/Mechagon The Dungeon/Reputation about Tinkers

And Tinker are not present in the game as reaching of any class


Meanwhile Dark Ranger are faction locked and basically are the MM Hunter from Legion with Black Arrow Talent.




Would be easier for Blizzard to add a Dark Ranger skin for UD and BELF Hunter MM than bothers to replicate the same spec but edgy

[Kumorii]

Like?

Because for Tinkers we got Mounts/NPC/MechaSuit/Mechagnomes/Mechanical Pet/Mechagon an entire Region/Mechagon The Dungeon/Reputation about Tinkers

And Tinker are not present in the game as reaching of any class


Meanwhile Dark Ranger are faction locked and basically are the MM Hunter from Legion with Black Arrow Talent.




Would be easier for Blizzard to add a Dark Ranger skin for UD and BELF Hunter MM than bothers to replicate the same spec but edgy

In the same sense tinkers are just engineering. Doubt a profession will become a class.

[Villager720]

Like?

Because for Tinkers we got Mounts/NPC/MechaSuit/Mechagnomes/Mechanical Pet/Mechagon an entire Region/Mechagon The Dungeon/Reputation about Tinkers

Dark Rangers have been growing more common since Legion, got their own voice lines, had a DR-centric quest for Hunters in Legion, got an armor set, now have two (three?) playable races, and are getting a PTR scenario.
I'm not saying they have as much as Tinkers - they do not - which is why I started by saying I still think Tinkers are next.
But they've gotten mountains more than necromancers.

And Tinker are not present in the game as reaching of any class


Meanwhile Dark Ranger are faction locked and basically are the MM Hunter from Legion with Black Arrow Talent.

Don't think "overlap" stops a class from being added to the game. Warlocks will never forget the Demon Hunter Prune.

[Daikoku]

In the same sense tinkers are just engineering. Doubt a profession will become a class.

Like saying that Healer Class are just First Aid

[Kumorii]

Like saying that Healer Class are just First Aid

You got my point, good.

[Weallscream]

It's a shitty and awful idea so stop dreaming
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It's a shitty and awful idea so stop dreaming
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Tinker's not going go happen.

[Teriz]

In the same sense tinkers are just engineering. Doubt a profession will become a class.

The abilities shown in WC3, and HotS and utilized by Gelbin, Blackfuse, Thermaplugg, Omegaplugg, Gazlowe, Marin, and Gallywix are definitely NOT found in the Engineering profession.

[threads]

later in the xpac sylvanas is gonna start raising dark rangers everywhere and it'll be the next hero class for every race like DKs.

[Kumorii]

The abilities shown in WC3, and HotS and utilized by Gelbin, Blackfuse, Thermaplugg, Omegaplugg, Gazlowe, Marin, and Gallywix are definitely NOT found in the Engineering profession.

Exactly.
/10

[Daikoku]

Dark Rangers have been growing more common since Legion, got their own voice lines, had a DR-centric quest for Hunters in Legion, got an armor set, now have two (three?) playable races, and are getting a PTR scenario.
I'm not saying they have as much as Tinkers - they do not - which is why I started by saying I still think Tinkers are next.
But they've gotten mountains more than necromancers.



Don't think "overlap" stops a class from being added to the game. Warlocks will never forget the Demon Hunter Prune.

But Dark Ranger are just a flavor Hunter for the sake of RP and Lore.
If we back to War3, Dark Ranger where an Hero for UD and were High Elf raised.

So basically Dark Ranger are just dead mm hunter raised and thus granting some cool shadowy/death effect nothing less nothing more.

Then we have Nathanos that was the only Human Ranger to be recognized by High Elves as a " good ranger for a human "


Also about the race for Dark Ranger we would have : Human Nelf Belf and Undead

BUT undead are already dead human so???

Belf and Nelf will be " again another elf class..."

But more importantly how in the universe Alliance would allow somebody ressed by Sylvanas to join their ranks?

Don't bring DK because you can't really compare Turion Fordring using Ashbringer to sever the connection between Arthas and DKs that let them be able to regain free will and get pissed af at Arthas to push them to a suicide mission only to bring Tirion out of the chapel.

It will be just a Lich King 2.0 clownfiesta and Sylvanas will need to die at the end so basically pissing off a lot of people.

[Florena]

I'd rather not get a twilight related class. I'd rather get something akin to monk than yet another 'use the power of the enemy against them!' class. We got that with DKs and demon hunters in addition to having warlocks and shadowpriests in the base game. No more edgy classes please. Assuming they even add a new class in 9.0.

[Daikoku]

You got my point, good.

Ye but I see that this comparison is dumb if not r AF.


You are comparing a profession that don't even can replicate 50% of the Tinker Abilities we saw in game with


A ranger with a bow.

An emo ranger with a bow.


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[Villager720]

But Dark Ranger are just a flavor Hunter for the sake of RP and Lore.
If we back to War3, Dark Ranger where an Hero for UD and were High Elf raised.

So basically Dark Ranger are just dead mm hunter raised and thus granting some cool shadowy/death effect nothing less nothing more.

Dark Rangers had completely different abilities in WC3 than the "ranger". And in the context of WoW, how many mind-controlling hunters have you met?
Just like warlocks lost abilities to make room for DH, hunters can easily lose black arrow. They can also pull stuff from the HotS iteration of Sylvanas (just like they did in the BfA Cinematic) and give them banshee wave teleports and such.

Then we have Nathanos that was the only Human Ranger to be recognized by High Elves as a " good ranger for a human "

Also about the race for Dark Ranger we would have : Human Nelf Belf and Undead

BUT undead are already dead human so???

Belf and Nelf will be " again another elf class..."

Void elves, night elves, blood elves, undead all work lore-wise currently.
Also - we've seen they can be "made" in BfA so there is nothing stopping other races that use bows from joining their ranks.

But more importantly how in the universe Alliance would allow somebody ressed by Sylvanas to join their ranks?

You mean like Derek Proudmoore? Suspicious that the Alliance keeps picking up risen dead people recently.

[Daikoku]

Regarding Demo Lock and DH.
Blizzard just did an opsie.

Demo Warlocks would never have the Meta talents in first place.
Demo Warlock control Demons like a Beastmaster controls Beast, not becoming one.

So Demo Lock becoming a Demon was a huge mistake but even said that DH and DemoMeta Locks could have exist both just tweaking.

Personally I would have reworked Lock Meta in something mixed between Metamoph and Surrend To Madness.
With the Warlock using his soul to summon a Demon Lord ( like Warhammer ) and die at the end of the process maybe exploding in the gorest way possible.

[Daikoku]

Dark Rangers had completely different abilities in WC3 than the "ranger". And in the context of WoW, how many mind-controlling hunters have you met?
Just like warlocks lost abilities to make room for DH, hunters can easily lose black arrow. They can also pull stuff from the HotS iteration of Sylvanas (just like they did in the BfA Cinematic) and give them banshee wave teleports and such.



Void elves, night elves, blood elves, undead all work lore-wise currently.
Also - we've seen they can be "made" in BfA so there is nothing stopping other races that use bows from joining their ranks.



You mean like Derek Proudmoore? Suspicious that the Alliance keeps picking up risen dead people recently.

Unfortunately you are mixing Sylvanas with Dark Ranger. Because Sylvanas was the original Dark Ranger in War3.

Sylvanas is a Ranger but she is also a Banshee and here is her ability to posses bodies, due to begin a Banshee aka an Undeath.
Did you see Nathanos become a Banshee? Other Dark Ranger screaming and became fog? I remember killing Dark Rangers in Sauefang quest and

Nope no fog no smoke.

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You listed 4 race and 3 are still Elves, stop plz.


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Ahh Derek Proudmoore the missing brother of one of the main Character!
Somebody that got freed before Sylvanas could do anything to him, yes!

So Alliance is gonna get undead human while horse gets again undead human?? Mhh


And still we don't know if Derek isn't under Sylvanas control to be precise and yet you are still reaching for " but you see how easily they are raised? "

Eh ok so basically Alliance need Sylvanas to raid Dark Ranger and wait them to join her?
By this logic she will only raise Belf and Forsaken Ranged and thxbb alliance with your 3 Dark Ranger.

[Unholyground]

While I do believe Tinker is next, they sure have put a lot of "dark ranger stuff" into the game over the last two expansions (including some sort of scenario in the datamining).
Suspicious.
Meanwhile - can anyone name one famous necromancer who isn't now a Lich?

Dark Ranger will fit if Sylvanas leaves the Horde which she is going to very likely do after saving us all from N'Zoth by capturing him in the empty Knaifu.

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Unfortunately you are mixing Sylvanas with Dark Ranger. Because Sylvanas was the original Dark Ranger in War3.

Sylvanas is a Ranger but she is also a Banshee and here is her ability to posses bodies, due to begin a Banshee aka an Undeath.
Did you see Nathanos become a Banshee? Other Dark Ranger screaming and became fog? I remember killing Dark Rangers in Sauefang quest and

Nope no fog no smoke.

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You listed 4 race and 3 are still Elves, stop plz.


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Ahh Derek Proudmoore the missing brother of one of the main Character!
Somebody that got freed before Sylvanas could do anything to him, yes!

So Alliance is gonna get undead human while horse gets again undead human?? Mhh


And still we don't know if Derek isn't under Sylvanas control to be precise and yet you are still reaching for " but you see how easily they are raised? "

Eh ok so basically Alliance need Sylvanas to raid Dark Ranger and wait them to join her?
By this logic she will only raise Belf and Forsaken Ranged and thxbb alliance with your 3 Dark Ranger.

As we know any magical ability can be taught with enough study, even the abilities Sylvanas has.

[Daikoku]

Dark Ranger will fit if Sylvanas leaves the Horde which she is going to very likely do after saving us all from N'Zoth by capturing him in the empty Knaifu.

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As we know any magical ability can be taught with enough study, even the abilities Sylvanas has.

Yet still after 15 years the only people able to raise and create Deathknights 2.0 were Nerzhul and Arthas as LK.

While Sylvanas can at best raise a dead elf that was already able to shoot arrows and now can shoot arrow with dark magic filled


But still not any sui generis ability like a proper banshee




Also who in the fucking alliance nor horde would be ok to raise people? If Sylvanas is no longer there?

[Unholyground]

Yet still after 15 years the only people able to raise and create Deathknights 2.0 were Nerzhul and Arthas as LK.

While Sylvanas can at best raise a dead elf that was already able to shoot arrows and now can shoot arrow with dark magic filled


But still not any sui generis ability like a proper banshee




Also who in the fucking alliance nor horde would be ok to raise people? If Sylvanas is no longer there?

It will be really easy once she has N'Zoth in the blade and has access to the Shadowlands.

[tankbug]

I'd rahter have a Berserker class, based on the troll unit.
Throwing one-handed weapon and spears, medium range, mail armor.