Old computer I plan to update some for secondary wow account

[BartenderKillian]

As title says.

Just looking for update advice.

Going to use this as a secondary computer.
Wanting it able to play wow classic for my secondary account.

What if I wanted it to play bfa well?

Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
CPU cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 deluxe
Memory: Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24
Hard drive: WD 1tb
Power Supply: Corsair ax750 cmpsu-750ax
Video card: evga gtx 275
Case: Coolermaster HAF-X
Monitor: Dell 2405FPW 50-60hz
Windows 7

[Bryntrollian]

All you really need is to change the GPU and add an SSD

[Jazzhands]

As title says.

Just looking for update advice.

Going to use this as a secondary computer.
Wanting it able to play wow classic for my secondary account.

Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
CPU cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 deluxe
Memory: Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24
Hard drive: WD 1tb
Power Supply: Corsair ax750 cmpsu-750ax
Video card: evga gtx 275
Case: Coolermaster HAF-X
Monitor: Dell 2405FPW 50-60hz
Windows 7

I don't think this will have any issues with Classic as it is. You can play Classic on a potato.

[BartenderKillian]

All you really need is to change the GPU and add an SSD

What gpu would be good?

Its only pci-e 2.0

What if I wanted to play bfa on it? What would I have to update then?

[Saphyron]

If you don't care to much about graphical and resolution you can play wow on a toaster...
kinda.

The 2500K is still a good cpu. not great anymore but okay and more than enough for wow.
The GPU is kinda shit though. Worse than IGPU's of our time. But still able to play wow at 720p. It performs better in gaming than a Intel HD 520 (slightly). And my roomie raided on that in this expansion when his gpu died last year.

If you want to play 1080p an RX 560 would be a cheap upgrade that should easily do the trick.
Getting an SSD would help immensely on loading time so if you can push that one into the budget that would be a massive upgrade as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


Storage: Western Digital - Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($39.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 560 - 1024 2 GB AERO ITX OC Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $129.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-20 20:04 EDT-0400

[BartenderKillian]

If you don't care to much about graphical and resolution you can play wow on a toaster...
kinda.

The 2500K is still a good cpu. not great anymore but okay and more than enough for wow.
The GPU is kinda shit though. Worse than IGPU's of our time. But still able to play wow at 720p. It performs better in gaming than a Intel HD 520 (slightly). And my roomie raided on that in this expansion when his gpu died last year.

If you want to play 1080p an RX 560 would be a cheap upgrade that should easily do the trick.
Getting an SSD would help immensely on loading time so if you can push that one into the budget that would be a massive upgrade as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


Storage: Western Digital - Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($39.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 560 - 1024 2 GB AERO ITX OC Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $129.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-20 20:04 EDT-0400

Been thinking of updating as best I can

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
CPU cooler: dark pro 4
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 deluxe
Memory: gskill 16gigs
Hard drive: 860 evo 1tb
Power Supply: Corsair ax750 cmpsu-750ax
Video card: what's the best you can get and will run well
Case: Coolermaster HAF-X
Monitor: new just not sure what
Windows 10 home

[Bryntrollian]

What gpu would be good?

Its only pci-e 2.0

What if I wanted to play bfa on it? What would I have to update then?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $154.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-20 20:11 EDT-0400

[Saphyron]

Been thinking of updating as best I can

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
CPU cooler: dark pro 4
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 deluxe
Memory: gskill 16gigs
Hard drive: 860 evo 1tb
Power Supply: Corsair ax750 cmpsu-750ax
Video card: what's the best you can get and will run well
Case: Coolermaster HAF-X
Monitor: new just not sure what
Windows 10 home

You should be able to upgrade your current windows 7 key to windows 10 for free. "Should"

In case you can just remove that as a cost for below build.
In regards to GPU you can get much better GPU's but there is litterally no reason since you are only playing wow.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


CPU: Intel - Core i5-2500K 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - P8P67 Deluxe ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws X Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($198.80 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - Professional Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($110.49 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $803.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-21 05:42 EDT-0400

[BartenderKillian]

You should be able to upgrade your current windows 7 key to windows 10 for free. "Should"

In case you can just remove that as a cost for below build.
In regards to GPU you can get much better GPU's but there is litterally no reason since you are only playing wow.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


CPU: Intel - Core i5-2500K 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - P8P67 Deluxe ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws X Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($198.80 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - Professional Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($110.49 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $803.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-21 05:42 EDT-0400

Thanks

I will probably just buy the windows 10. I prefer fresh installs over upgrading. Also with adding a new ssd for os might as well.

Thinking about maybe getting the monitor I had linked in my other thread along with a less nvidia card I had linked in my other thread. Then wait maybe another year before I buy that beast. Hopefully these updates to this one will be good enough to play wow well at close to max settings. Either class is or bfa. Probably mainly classic.

[Kagthul]

Thats a lot of pointless overspend if you’re turning this into a secondary computer to play WoW (Classic or otherwise).

You dont need a freaking DRP4 on a 2500K. That Evo will be fine. You dont need a 1TB SSD. You dont need 16GB of RAM. You dont even need that nearly-200$ RX 580.

Try this instead:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KGXJ3b
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KGXJ3b/by_merchant/

Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $159.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-21 13:22 EDT-0400

Re: Windows 10, dont waste your money. Just take the free upgrade, then perform a clean install. After you tie the key to your Microsoft Account, you can just create a USB installer and do a fresh install.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

Thats the link directly to the installer creation tool, straight from MS. Upside is, the installer will be the most up-to-date version of Win 10 - you wont have to do a bunch of updates afterwards.

[BartenderKillian]

Thats a lot of pointless overspend if you’re turning this into a secondary computer to play WoW (Classic or otherwise).

You dont need a freaking DRP4 on a 2500K. That Evo will be fine. You dont need a 1TB SSD. You dont need 16GB of RAM. You dont even need that nearly-200$ RX 580.

Try this instead:



Re: Windows 10, dont waste your money. Just take the free upgrade, then perform a clean install. After you tie the key to your Microsoft Account, you can just create a USB installer and do a fresh install.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

Thats the link directly to the installer creation tool, straight from MS. Upside is, the installer will be the most up-to-date version of Win 10 - you wont have to do a bunch of updates afterwards.

Ok so

Ssd
Videocard
Monitor

The ram update is just 100. Thought it would be helpful

[Kagthul]

Ok so

Ssd
Videocard
Monitor

The ram update is just 100. Thought it would be helpful

Not if all you're doing is daily driving tasks, and playing a game or two. 8GB is fine.

[BartenderKillian]

Not if all you're doing is daily driving tasks, and playing a game or two. 8GB is fine.

Ok

I use to play wow 16 to 18 hrs a day with two computers going. Its how I had over 1 million gold before wrath came out.

- - - Updated - - -

Not if all you're doing is daily driving tasks, and playing a game or two. 8GB is fine.

What if I wanted to make this my main computer for a year or two?

To play classic and maybe bfa?

What would you up grade then?

[Kagthul]

Ok

I use to play wow 16 to 18 hrs a day with two computers going. Its how I had over 1 million gold before wrath came out.

- - - Updated - - -



What if I wanted to make this my main computer for a year or two?

To play classic and maybe bfa?

What would you up grade then?

If you're just going to be doing 1080p/60hz... OC the CPU.

So add an aftermarket cooler (the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO is quite solid and affordable) and OC the CPU.

MAYBE add the extra 8GB of RAM if you do a LOT of multitasking in the background. And by a lot of multitasking, i dont mean Discord and half a dozen Chrome tabs.

Since its DDR3, though, you cant take that with you to a new build, so its kind of throwing cash away for not a lot of benefit (likely, none).

The RX 570 is plenty for WoW @ 1080p even with high/ultra settings on the GPU-limited settings. Its only about ~15% slower than the RX 580, and quite a bit cheaper. You dont need more than 4GB of VRAM for anything at 1080p, so shelling out the extra cash on an 8GB 580 is a bad investment, IMO, unless you're going to be playing higher-end AAA games as well... and even the 570 would do most AAA games at 1080p at high settings.

Its a REALLY solid card for the absurdly low price you can get it at.

So, total it up like:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K9rvr6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K9rvr6/by_merchant/

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial - BX500 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB AREZ STRIX OC Video Card ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $186.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-21 18:13 EDT-0400

[bowchikabow]

You should be able to upgrade your current windows 7 key to windows 10 for free. "Should"

In case you can just remove that as a cost for below build.
In regards to GPU you can get much better GPU's but there is litterally no reason since you are only playing wow.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


CPU: Intel - Core i5-2500K 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - P8P67 Deluxe ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws X Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($198.80 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - Professional Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($110.49 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $803.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-21 05:42 EDT-0400

If you gonna have this man spend 800+ dollars, may as well just have him build a new system. Taking some of the parts that he has (which I assume you did with "0.00" for price. I can do the same thing, with more.. for cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vzFsTB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 w/Wraith cooler 3.1 Quadcore ($74.32 Amazon)
CPU Cooler: has quality fan included (0.00)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For $69.89 OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - PM961 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($59.95 Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin - Source 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($139.99 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - Professional Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home upgrade from 7. (0.00)
Monitor: Acer - KG271U Abmiipx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($267.99 Amazon)
Total: $713.05

Faster, better, cheaper. To rebuild. Using your logic.

[BartenderKillian]

If you gonna have this man spend 800+ dollars, may as well just have him build a new system. Taking some of the parts that he has (which I assume you did with "0.00" for price. I can do the same thing, with more.. for cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vzFsTB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 w/Wraith cooler 3.1 Quadcore ($74.32 Amazon)
CPU Cooler: has quality fan included (0.00)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For $69.89 OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - PM961 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($59.95 Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin - Source 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($139.99 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - Professional Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home upgrade from 7. (0.00)
Monitor: Acer - KG271U Abmiipx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($267.99 Amazon)
Total: $713.05

Faster, better, cheaper. To rebuild. Using your logic.

I got the point Saphyron was making. He wasn't making it so high of a cost. I made an updated post he linked off of and added monitor and Video card to what I was.thinking.


Right now, I am thinking if.

Ssd add
Video card update
Monitor update
Maybe memory

1080p looks like what has been suggested

What if I wanted 1440p? Can that be done?

[bowchikabow]

I got the point Saphyron was making. He wasn't making it so high of a cost. I made an updated post he linked off of and added monitor and Video card to what I was.thinking.


Right now, I am thinking if.

Ssd add
Video card update
Monitor update
Maybe memory

1080p looks like what has been suggested

What if I wanted 1440p? Can that be done?

the 570, even in 8GB... wouldn't be well suited for 1440p/144hz gaming. you can cut monitor size and invest in a higher card that CAN handle it, if you like. There is wiggle room.

I made some adjustments, while trying to keep the budget in mind.

Different CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 w/Wraith cooler 3.4ghz ($164.89 OutletPC)
Different GPU: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 590 8 GB GAMING 8G Video Card ($219.00 Newegg)
Different Monitor: Acer - G247HYU 23.8" 2560x1440 60 Hz Monitor ($219.90 OutletPC)
New Price: $835.59 (so about $35 more than Saphyron's build suggest)

So yeah.. Definitely some wiggle room.

[moremana]

Lol at all these suggestions.. @Kagthul has it right.

OC it, Throw in a 250-500GB SSD for 30/60 bucks.

Grab a RX 570 and call it a day. If your a Nvidia fan, in a few days the GTX 1650 is coming out, a pinch more money though.

Do your free windows 10 update, once your board is tied into MS server from the upgrade, do fresh clean install. No sense in wasting money on a PC that today as no resale value at all. And if you want to game at 1440p, then yeah, your wasting your money on that rig anyway and buying anything for a new build on the market right before a new launch is pointless as well, wait for the Risen 3000 chips to drop.

[BartenderKillian]

Lol at all these suggestions.. @Kagthul has it right.

OC it, Throw in a 250-500GB SSD for 30/60 bucks.

Grab a RX 570 and call it a day. If your a Nvidia fan, in a few days the GTX 1650 is coming out, a pinch more money though.

Do your free windows 10 update, once your board is tied into MS server from the upgrade, do fresh clean install. No sense in wasting money on a PC that today as no resale value at all. And if you want to game at 1440p, then yeah, your wasting your money on that rig anyway and buying anything for a new build on the market right before a new launch is pointless as well, wait for the Risen 3000 chips to drop.

what would you get for a monitor? Or do I stay with the Dell?

[Saphyron]

what would you get for a monitor? Or do I stay with the Dell?

I might be biased a bit on that end.
But Acer has almost never failed me even after many years of use.
The one time where a Acer monitor died was because I bought the cheapest they had and it still lasted 6 years with 12-16 hours of daily use.