Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

Oh dear. Even the Turtle wasn't on board.

Of course he wasn't, he knows how much of a nightmare Cain or Moore would be in the FED and how neither have anything remotely approaching even the current Republican parties fiscal goals.

They're happy to re-enact the Human Centipede with Trump, but only to a point. McConnell is more powerful than Trump and he knows it, which is why for example Trumps big health care push a month ago (earlier this month?) came and went in a matter of days with a thud. Because McConnell knew it was a losing issue and wouldn't touch it, because the Trump administration couldn't find another Senate Republican to lead their efforts (not even Rick Scott), and because the administration is completely incapable of taking the lead on any legislative efforts.

[Orbitus]

Donald J. Trump will crush the Democrat presidential candidates come 2020... all twelve of them.

There is currently 19 or 20. Good luck with that. And even Fox News ran a poll after Sanders' townhall and Sanders Beat Trump by 7%. That was a Fox News poll.

[Amalaric]

There is currently 19 or 20. Good luck with that. And even Fox News ran a poll after Sanders' townhall and Sanders Beat Trump by 7%. That was a Fox News poll.

That's fucking insane but he will win as always.

[Bodonius]

Trump will win 2020, do I like it not really. But will I really dont think the right democrat will run against him, sanders getting to old and the rest is pretty much just jokes.

[Redwyrm]

Trump will win 2020, do I like it not really. But will I really dont think the right democrat will run against him, sanders getting to old and the rest is pretty much just jokes.

I remember when being a "joke" was enough to disqualify you from being President. Ah, the good old days.

[Bodonius]

I remember when being a "joke" was enough to disqualify you from being President. Ah, the good old days.

Like eating salad with a comb?

[Orbitus]

That's fucking insane but he will win as always.

When was his last win? Kavanaugh? I wouldn't call that much of a win.

[The Stormbringer]

There is currently 19 or 20. Good luck with that. And even Fox News ran a poll after Sanders' townhall and Sanders Beat Trump by 7%. That was a Fox News poll.

I believe we've learned, with the last election, that the polls are not the end all be all of elections. And this is coming from someone who thinks Sanders is by far the better candidate.

[Edge-]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...minals-1283773

Sure sounds like the administration is doing everything they can to prevent improvements to US voting technology/security for the next election. High turnover, inaction, a lack of leadership...sure sounds familiar.

[Paranoid Android]

McConnell: 'Time to move on' from Trump impeachment talk

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...mpression=true

McConnell is such a PoS.

Well, look, I think it's time to move on. This investigation was about collusion, there's no collusion, no charges brought against the president on anything else, and I think the American people have had quite enough of it," McConnell told reporters in Kentucky, according to NBC News.

He again uses the bs talking point of 'no collusion' and not about all the obstruction, plus their incompetent attempts of working with Russia. Also cause he knows he speaks to a base in their bubble when he states 'no charges'. When again Mueller stated it was not his job.

But of course this does not make Mitch McConnell the McConnell we all know with being the biggest hypocrite of them all.

In February 1998, the then-junior senator from Kentucky, Republican Mitch McConnell, said this on the Senate floor:

“Our nation is indeed at a crossroads. Will we pursue the search for truth or will we dodge, weave and evade the truth? I am of course referring to the investigation into serious allegations of illegal conduct by the president of the United States — that the president has engaged in a persistent pattern and practice of obstruction of justice. The allegations are grave, the investigation is legitimate and ascertaining the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the unqualified, unevasive truth is absolutely critical.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...c0a_story.html

Yes the article/source is an opinion piece which I don't care about the author. I used this source for the direct quote from 1998 about impeachment.

[Edge-]

I think McConnell and Graham are having a competition to see which can be the grossest hypocrite between the two of them.

The problem with having a long career in public office is that if you're not consistent and honest, your comments come back to bite you pretty often. Hard.

Then again, it's not like their hypocrisy and partisan dishonest is a negative for either. Their bases seem to love it.

[Dontrike]

https://twitter.com/politico/status/...767894528?s=19

Let's see what Trump is covering up. Is he so corrupt and perhaps incompetent that his books show criminal activities; possibly . Is he perhaps not as rich as he brag; very possible.

It's what an innocent person would do! Exoneration!

Am I doing it right?

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"It's probably just an ego thing, he doesn't want people to know his true net worth." is exactly what you are looking for.

Rephrased: Trump is probably hiding his lower-than-reported finances because he wants to protect his ego.

That and I'm sure there is so e illegal activity going on that can be found in those returns.

[Flarelaine]

In deference to our dear banned Skroe, I'll reiterate his assessment of what made the Obama campaign so effective - building an effective base of digital fundraising. That the Democratic candidates have such a surge of grassroots support should be indicative.

I'd hazard that getting people involved counts beyond their actual monetary contributions.

[Canpinter]

That and I'm sure there is so e illegal activity going on that can be found in those returns.

Honestly i think they are going to show one of two things, hes got massive conflicts of interest or hes in so much debt and has far less money then he claims.

[Kryctos]

Honestly i think they are going to show one of two things, hes got massive conflicts of interest or hes in so much debt and has far less money then he claims.

Por que no los dos?

[Breccia]

A selection of Twitter shit from just the last couple hours.

"Perhaps the greatest economy in history"

Show us your Q1 2019 GDP numbers.

Related: is he talking about how the US was always the #1 economy and he just didn't break it? Or, is he talking about how he made it even better, despite the tax cut for the rich backfiring and unilateral trade wars with no end in sight? Because either way, citation needed.

EDIT: Hey, who wants to bet Trump personally criticized Obama in the post-recovery economy of 2012-2016? Who wants to bet Trump is being a hypocrite about that, too? Anyone? @lockedout I'm looking in your direction.

[Dontrike]

11 tweets within 2 hours lol No doubt he'll also whip up a storm of retweets of things from Fox and other right wing garbage. Seems to be his new thing.

He....he....*sigh* he actually said Congress should get involved in Twitter because he doesn't have enough followers.....

*long deep breath*.....Jesus Christ.....

This is just like when he said SNL should be investigated for making fun of him. Just when you think he hit the bottom of the stupidity barrel he sucks the flavor directly through the wood.

[Nellise]

President tells people to boycott a company, company does worse, President blames EU: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/23/harl...-earnings.html

He has the memory of a goldfish.

[Breccia]

He has the memory of a goldfish.

Nah, it's just plain old dishonesty. Besides, Harley in particular made a big stink about leaving because of the tariffs.

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Trump orders WH staffer to ignore a subpoena to testify before Congress.

"Wrong thread."

No, this is Carl Kline, now in the DoD but at the time was part of handing out Trump security clearances like bankruptcies to Trump casinos. The HOC demanded he testify after it was made public how these clearances were basically "because Trump said so" on people who failed background checks and, for example, did business deals on the side or beat their wives. Plural. Fuck that guy.

"That name sounds familiar. Didn't his lawyer say he'll testify this month?"

Yes, and Trump is telling him not to do that. Yes, refusing to appear before a legit Congressional subpoena will get you in jail. It sounds like Trump is willing to let this guy go to jail, despite his apparent willingness to testify, rather than let him speak under oath.

"Trump could just pardon him."

That sounds like obstruction of justice to me. Plus we've had that discussion before: once he's pardoned, he can't invoke the 5th anymore.

"No no, Trump could pardon the crime of failing to testify to a legit subpoena."

And then the HJC issues another one. At some point, Trump will prove he wanted his friends and family to have security clearances they didn't earn, by refusing to let the person who issued them tell the truth about the matter.

"Couldn't Kline just testify anyhow?"

Yes, but he still works for Trump. If he does, Trump will likely fire him.

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Nothing to do with people knowing he's grossly under-qualified, I'm sure.

UPDATE: Cain, taking a break from delivering pizzas to push a narrative (true or not) that he didn't take the job because
a) he would make less money, and
b) he would not be allowed to appear on FOX News.

Now, if that's true, then it says a lot about "only the best people" Trump wants. We just had someone ditch the post, the opportunity to do what he feels is right for the country, because it doesn't pay him personally.

Or, it's false, and he and/or Trump came up with this story -- thinking it was redeeming -- rather than tell the truth. That truth, by the way, is likely "I am not qualified."

I mean, Cain set the floor of how bad this is with "it doesn't pay me enough". The real story is either that, or worse. That's like, when the cops come to your door asking for an alibi, you said you were at the SPCA kicking puppies.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/23/polit...ime/index.html

"You look at what Russia did, you know, buying some Facebook ads to try and sow dissent and do it, it's a terrible thing," Kushner said in an interview at Time 100 Summit in response to a question about the Mueller investigation.

"But I think the investigations and all of the speculation that's happened for the last two years has had a much harsher impact on our democracy than a couple Facebook ads," he continued.

Not much goin on, just Jared Kushner dishonestly and dramatically downplaying the scope of the Russian influence on the election while claiming that it's actually the investigation that's the most damaging thing out of all of this.