Did you grow up in a right wing or left wing family?

[Themius]

"Cnn is centrist"

Now i've heard it all


As far as my family go i come from a working class family so i'd say left leaning, my father was a socialist as a young man but he moved further to the center as he got older, my mother is a very big supporter of the public sector (our health sector in perticular), they both vote for the Norwegian labour party.

In what way is cnn left or liberal?

for one we aren't even talking about two news agencies which should be a problem.

CNN is a news agency and as such has to follow certain FCC guidelines while fox refuses to be labeled as such due to those regulations around what "news" is.

[Demsi]

In what way is cnn left or liberal?

You're joking right?

[Bumbasta]

my family votes center right in the Netherlands, which in America would probably be quite left.



Long live the welfare state.

[Themius]

You're joking right?

In what way is cnn objectively left what specifically makes them left because the majority of shit people say is left... is non-political affiliation shit in the rest of the world

[Eldar45]

Center-Right.

Most people would call us completely normal. Anti-Abortion, Pro-Gun ownership, unrestricted first amendment, understand that unions are a necessity, think that any form of government run anything leads to mismanagement and wasted money.

I'm the kind of person that would have voted for Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, JFK, Reagan, Bush Jr.

Extremism on either side is rarely helpful and only causes in fighting and resentment. It seems that most people on this forum fall into that kind of category.



Somehow people equate these beliefs with Fascism now.




And as for the modern day politics: I'll mostly vote Republican in national elections because the Democrats have gone absolutely bonkers, but a pox on both houses.

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In what way is cnn objectively left what specifically makes them left because the majority of shit people say is left... is non-political affiliation shit in the rest of the world

According to Media Bias/Fact Check:

CNN has a left bias in story selection that often favors the left while being critical of the right. For example, during the 2016 Presidential Election Pew Research concluded that the majority of CNN stories covering President Donald Trump were negative. While less dramatic, Pew also determined that more stories were negative toward Presidential candidate Mitt Romney in 2012.

Yea, they are pretty left.

[Themius]

Center-Right.

Most people would call us completely normal. Anti-Abortion, Pro-Gun ownership, unrestricted first amendment, understand that unions are a necessity, think that any form of government run anything leads to mismanagement and wasted money.

I'm the kind of person that would have voted for Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, JFK, Reagan, Bush Jr.

Extremism on either side is rarely helpful and only causes in fighting and resentment. It seems that most people on this forum fall into that kind of category.



Somehow people equate these beliefs with Fascism now.




And as for the modern day politics: I'll mostly vote Republican in national elections because the Democrats have gone absolutely bonkers, but a pox on both houses.

Republicans don't stand much for anything you just mentioned nowadays and nor do the people you say you would vote for... centrist democrats are what you want and you'd vote for the extremist? Now you're just "party over country"

Um Trump was pretty negative most coverage was negative most republicans were negative about him and everyone took him as a joke

So saying "they reported negative things" is a rather silly argument.

Mitt Romney also wasn't a great fucking candidate and he tanked his own shit with the 250k middle class comment.

[Rozz]

Politics wasn't a thing in my house, to be honest my family didn't give fuck about it because they was to focused on living and surviving.

Same, I didn't find out about any of my family's political alignments until I was a teenager. Apparently I come from a heavily religious and culturally conservative family. My mom and I are the odd ones out.

[PC2]

We never talked directly about politics or the left or right. I just remember my dad was always bitching about the government. Because he was constanty thinking up real estate and small business projects, which was hindered by a glut of federal regulations. And the hippie CA government being more worried about some shitty endangered frog species than developing a lot for something useful.

[Demsi]

In what way is cnn objectively left what specifically makes them left because the majority of shit people say is left... is non-political affiliation shit in the rest of the world

Was going to link the media bias link that the previous poster linked, but yeah the overwhelming(ly negative)coverage of president trump (and romney for that matter) is one good example.

[Nihilist74]

My mom's side of the family and her parents are mostly old Irish Catholic labor union democrats. My mom's brother in law was head of the electricians union. My dad's parents were Presbyterian conservative republicans. My dad's sister is an evangelical right-wing Christian who was arrested for blocking an abortion clinic. My mom has always been a Democrat. My dad never really cared either way but has more right-wing leanings because of the influence of his parents I can imagine. I have not talked to him since I was 18. I can imagine he voted for Trump if he voted. He probably voted for whoever the wife he is on now wanted him to vote. I grew up in Colorado Springs which has a lot of right wing and right wing Christian conservatives. I am left wing and an atheist.

[Eldar45]

Republicans don't stand much for anything you just mentioned nowadays and nor do the people you say you would vote for... centrist democrats are what you want and you'd vote for the extremist? Now you're just "party over country"

I haven't seen a single democrat be pro-gun, anti abortion (which are my primary concerns). I've also seen a vast majority of democrats running for national elections want to restrict speech. There is also a major call for government run healthcare. After watching government run public schools fail us for years and the VA fail veterans for years I don't want our entire healthcare system ran by the government.

No, the Democrats have nothing for me.



Locally though, I vote for democrats pretty often.

[Themius]

Was going to link the media bias link that the previous poster linked, but yeah the overwhelming(ly negative) of president trump (and romney for that matter) is one good example.

Trump is a fucking terrible data point because republicans were disparaging him.

As for Romney I posted above. He was a horrible candidate as is, and his 250k middle class comment tanked his own campaign.

[Keyblader]

I grew up in mostly a non-political family. My parents had me when they were pretty young, and they never really had the interest in politics. I think that actually benefited me growing up to make my own decisions, and to remain fairly neutral throughout my life. Even now, I am a fairly neutral political person, but I'd definitely say I lean a tad more conservative, but I never completely see myself sticking to one side, times change, policies change, and it's good to keep a neutral head, and not get caught up in politics, and alienate other people.

[Crispin]

Center-right.

That's left for Hillary Clinton and slightly right of Bernie Sanders in case any Americans would wonder what that would mean in the US.

[Themius]

I haven't seen a single democrat be pro-gun, anti abortion (which are my primary concerns). I've also seen a vast majority of democrats running for national elections want to restrict speech. There is also a major call for government run healthcare. After watching government run public schools fail us for years and the VA fail veterans for years I don't want our entire healthcare system ran by the government.

No, the Democrats have nothing for me.

You haven't seen a single pro-gun democrat? Now you're a liar...

Anti-abortion is your primary concern? Tell me do you want to expand welfare to take care of these children you want to force to be born? Are you going to hire more officers to deal with the eventual crime of unwanted children?

Government run healthcare isn't "left wing" the concept that "government run healthcare" is "leftwing" is fucking stupid...as the majority of the world agrees on this concept who are both conservative and liberal. Healthcare is just a right people think people should have, only in America is it crazy liberal to want healthcare which should say something to you.

You mention people you would vote for that wouldn't be republicans in the modern era

Also Regan fucked the economy over and you'd want more of that seriously?

[Kokolums]

"Cnn is centrist"

Now i've heard it all

Europe is far to the left of the US so their center point is to the left as well. EU is so far left that it is shifting away from the democratic process altogether. The EU commission is unelected, the president of the EU is unelected, and they can ignore the will of the people because of that. It is strange that people on the left complain about the electoral college in the US yet the left is perfectly happy with not electing most of the power brokers in the EU. But then again I don't think anything can be done about it. It wouldn't shock me to see voting rights curbed further as the EU president and commission get more power and move further left and start blurring into soviet territory.

But it would seem that unelected officials are slowly seizing power in the EU and it will just stop being democratic and become soviet if the trend continues.

[Alydael]

My family was left leaning, but close to center.

I don't like the Pubs or the Dems. I think they are both terrible for this country.

I point to: endless war, 20 trillion dollar debt to China, can't even solve it's own border/immigration issue over the course of decades, education 40th. ranked (think 42nd.) below developing countries, the healthcare debacle that continues, sharply dividing the country with intentionally incendiary rhetoric, etc.

I could really go on, but I feel that is more than enough for any intelligent person to stay as far the hell away from either of those parties as possible.

[Kokolums]

only in America is it crazy liberal to want healthcare which should say something to you.

The republican position is that America cannot pay for both a massive military and universal health care. Europe and Canada can provide universal health care to its people because its military budget is very small. Its military budget is very small because they get free military service from the US.

The options on the table are:

1. Pay for both a massive US military budget and universal health care in the US. This means tax rates must go sky high and the US becomes noncompetitive on the global marketplace. Its economy collapses and business and corporations flee high tax rates. China becomes the world's superpower.
2. Make massive cuts to the US military budget to pay for universal health care in the US. China becomes the world's superpower.
3. Levy a tax on nations that have received substantial free military service from the US to protect it during the Cold War and in modern times. Nations that refuse to pay the tax will be removed from NATO / UN obligations to protect it from Russia, China, etc. That means allowing Russia and China to invade Poland or Germany or Scandinavia or whomever else refuses to pay the tax.

The core problem per republicans is the US is providing free military protection to all of Europe. That expenditure prevents the US from having universal health care. The money just isn't there to do it. It doesn't matter who you elect, no one is ever going to pass a universal health care law in the US. That's why Obama wins in 2008 and has a supermajority and can pass pretty much anything he wants and just passes an insurance thingy with a tax on people who don't have insurance.

[D Luniz]

both parents republicans, well, till Bush II for my mom, and Trump to drive out my dad
me, I thought well of republicans here cause of Ann Richards, but that ended when the party went nuts
guess Candaice Owens was right, there is a #Blexit

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