[TV/Books] Game of Thrones ***SPOILER Discussion***

[Wyattbw09]

thats fine. it still could have failed as a flank. it would have been great to see them initially do well, cutting through the undead lines at around the lines of defense, only to quickly realize that no matter how many they kill, they are more and more and more, and eventually being overwhelmed. same result, but would have not made me facepalm, and possibly even better at bulidng tension and a sease of dread, that the mighty dothraki flanking force wasnt enough to bring down the massive undead horde.

Yeah, but its TV and they want to show this epic scene where the all these flaming swords are snuffed out rapidly to give the audience the real sense of doom approaching. It was epic TV and anyone who claims they saw that scene and did not immediately go "Oh shit" this is about to get crazy is lying. In real life its a dumb ass move, in TV its a epic scene and was awesome.

[Tekkommo]

I personally think it stems from some belief that these white walkers are just quasi-omniscient, and that there's no way a trained assassin could breeze past them, which she literally did if you watch the scene. The wind blows a by a white walker and he looks sideways, and then in comes Arya. I don't see anything unbelievable about it.

The white walkers have always been pretty slow and over confident (I'm not saying they can't have lightning reflexes when needed).

None of them have ever put up a good fight either.

[Dacien]

The white walkers have always been pretty slow and over confident (I'm not saying they can't have lightning reflexes when needed).

None of them have ever put up a good fight either.

I see it as no different than slipping past some knights in the dark. Maybe took a little more skill, but again, Arya.

[TJ]

I know, its like they did not spend YEARS, building up Arya as this stealth ice cold murder machine. People trying to make the argument that this INCREDIBLY well training assassin, IN HER OWN HOME, does not know all the nooks and crannys and could not sneak up on the Night King, and then use a move she literately showed the audience she was capable of doing last season are just looking for reasons to complain.

She's an assassin of the faceless men, not a Rogue of WoW capable of stealth and ridiculous sprint speeds. He was surrounded by WW and undead. It was awful.

[NihilSustinet]

Yeah, but its TV and they want to show this epic scene where the all these flaming swords are snuffed out rapidly to give the audience the real sense of doom approaching. It was epic TV and anyone who claims they saw that scene and did not immediately go "Oh shit" this is about to get crazy is lying. In real life its a dumb ass move, in TV its a epic scene and was awesome.

if you say so. i didnt think it was awesome, i thought it was a huge waste of the dothraki army that has been built up since literally episode one.

[Weeps]

Uh. Have you watched a movie called Logan? How about Kill Bill? Sin City? Rambo?

Action isn't just for kids. I think too much action does bog down a film's message, but if used right, it only improves it.

Rambo is fucking stupid 1980s ammosexual trash.

Sin City isn't 90% battle scenes like the latest GoT episode. It had small spurts of violence. That is tolerable because it wasn't 40 fucking minutes long.

Kill Bill, see above.

Logan, have not seen. Not a fan of a lot of Marvel movies.

#SoTriggeredMuhFeelers!

[TJ]

I see it as no different than slipping past some knights in the dark. Maybe took a little more skill, but again, Arya.

Just a little different...

[NihilSustinet]

She's an assassin of the faceless men, not a Rogue of WoW capable of stealth and ridiculous sprint speeds. He was surrounded by WW and undead. It was awful.

i mean.. says you. obviously she was capable of that, because she did it.

[Weeps]

"HOW DARE PEOPLE ENJOY DIFFERENT THINGS TO ME, IT MUST BE BECAUSE I'M SO MUCH SMARTER THAN THEM!!"

Also if you let your kids watch GoT I would had to question your parenting skills. Nothing says kid friendly like soft core porn, gore and dismemberment.

Wait, if it's so low IQ for children, why are you watching it and here in this thread?

Seems to me... you're low IQ

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Watch out boys, the historian is getting triggered and calling everyone low IQ.

Looks like you're the one triggered by one person's opinion

https://www.theringer.com/movies/201...s-infinity-war

https://nofilmschool.com/2015/09/pro...just-kind-ofeh

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahas.../#4480ece21ac8

https://decider.com/2019/04/25/game-...trategy-sucks/

[Steelcryo]

She's an assassin of the faceless men, not a Rogue of WoW capable of stealth and ridiculous sprint speeds. He was surrounded by WW and undead. It was awful.

She didn't sprint or sneak, Bran air dropped her in with his crows, duh! What else do you think he was doing the entire episode, he was finding enough crows!


Seriously though, her teacher killed like 15 guards without anyone seeing anything. It's not beyond belief she found a way. The only thing I'd say they could have done better is have the WW/wights crowd in a bit more so it didn't seem quite so far she would have had to move from crowd to NK.

[TJ]

i mean.. says you. obviously she was capable of that, because she did it.

Says the lazy, poor writing of D&D.

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Looks like you're the one triggered by one person's opinion

Absolutely foaming at the mouth. Better tell people I'm a historian again

[Grimbold21]

Yeah, but its TV and they want to show this epic scene where the all these flaming swords are snuffed out rapidly to give the audience the real sense of doom approaching. It was epic TV and anyone who claims they saw that scene and did not immediately go "Oh shit" this is about to get crazy is lying. In real life its a dumb ass move, in TV its a epic scene and was awesome.

How can i move towards — if you can even consider it a step forward — that thought when im stuck with "this charged is tremendously stupid" thought?

[TJ]

She didn't sprint or sneak, Bran air dropped her in with his crows, duh! What else do you think he was doing the entire episode, he was finding enough crows!


Seriously though, her teacher killed like 15 guards without anyone seeing anything. It's not beyond belief she found a way. The only thing I'd say they could have done better is have the WW/wights crowd in a bit more so it didn't seem quite so far she would have had to move from crowd to NK.

Sure, if they explained it or showed a scene, setup, anything. Nope, nothing. Just lol here i am dead.

[NihilSustinet]

Says the lazy, poor writing of D&D.

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Absolutely foaming at the mouth. Better tell people I'm a historian again

i just watched it again. she does create a breeze as she runs by, and the one white walker notices, but it happens too fast to react. she popped vanish add blew her sprint CD.

[MakeMeLaugh]

Im actually pretty jaded when it comes to cinema. But the battle was well done, poor decisions aside. The moment the Dothraki charged with swords blazing but were quickly snuffed out you realize the undead force is way bigger than your thought. For every thing they throw at the Night King, he has an answer. And that’s really why the Arya kill is so lame. The NK countered all their best, Dothraki, Dragons, Unsullied but he couldn’t counter a 70lb little girl

The dothraki charge was just stupid. Everyone knew they would be destroyed and Jorah would return defeated, no suspense, nothing, outcome as predictable as it can get when you are charging against an infinite army. When the dead raised, it actually had some suspense, even though it disappointed in the end, like everything else.

Arya killing the NK was just the last retarded thing to top it all. All the problems the episode had could have been forgiven if the ending was different, but no, it had to end in a stupid way like that.

[IIamaKing]

She's an assassin of the faceless men, not a Rogue of WoW capable of stealth and ridiculous sprint speeds. He was surrounded by WW and undead. It was awful.

She spent ~18 months with the Faceless men. From the age of 11 she was training to kill. This notion that all her martial prowess comes from the Faceless men is ridiculous. Years traveling from KL to Bravos with much of the time spent with one of the best killers in Westeros. A year or more post Faceless men getting home, presumably still picking up tricks. She is a KILLER. Likely one of the best in the realms.

[igualitarist]

I just still really want to know how, with all the characters there like Tyrion and Sam and Varys who are defined by their intelligence and wisdom, not ONE of them went "You know, maybe hiding in the crypts surrounded by dead skeletons against an army of the dead who can raise skeletons is a bad idea."

But I suppose they needed a way to kill off some of the people who weren't going to be fighting.

John Snow saw with his bare eyes the Nk raising the dead in Hardhome, and still, agreed with sending those most vulnerable people to the crypts, unarmed and unguarded. Imo, this is a huge plot hole thhat nobody is talking about.

I don't think John Snow would be this dumb, but he was.

[Steelcryo]

Seems to me... you're low IQ

Ooof I'm so upset a random person on the internet thinks I have a low IQ. You must be so smart, I mean being able to make that kind of judgement with all the (or rather, lack of) information you have about me is clever!

This is how you come across

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcGQpjCztgA

[TJ]

i just watched it again. she does create a breeze as she runs by, and the one white walker notices, but it happens too fast to react. she popped vanish add blew her sprint CD.

Yeah she does, but if she was running so fast then where did she come from? Must have ran from a fair distance back thus creating some sort of noise or alert. It's a bit too much to believe for me.

[Molis]

but he couldn’t counter a 70lb little girl

His arrogance did him in, but that is a pretty overused villain plot line either way.

I was better with this than some kind of duel with Jon, or a Bran last minute super power.