FOMO: "Fear Of Missing Out", also commonly known as people with a mental issue of managing time and activities, many expecting others to fit into their schedule so they don't miss out on things to come. If FOMO becomes a problem for you, do seek help, it can be a very unhealthy lifestyle..
I'm not sure that is completely true. People have cited how "back then" players didn't have families, jobs, etc... assuming all players were 14 year olds.
But what about all the adult players who found they loved the game but simply didn't have time to invest THEN? But now... their kids are grown, life on rails, and they have more time to play a game. I can see some of them seeing an ad for World of Warcraft Classic and them saying: "No way! I remember that game... sign me up!"
Hey man, I've really enjoyed our debate... you've given me food for thought and opened my eyes to an alternate point of view. Even though you have yet to correct your poinbt of view, I totally respect it :P
Classic wont kill retail , Classic is targeted in different audience.
Its like saying that Tesla will kill all the Tractor industries they are completely two different game with the same name that play/act/target to different type of crowd.
Most of people that are happy with retail as it is will HATE massively hate how slow/grindy and "mmorpish" the game is, tell a hunter in the retail now to restock arrows .. pffft half of them will jump of the roofs.
To my knowledge, no one has ever said that applies to all the players who started during vanilla WoW, just to a portion of them. But even if they did, the statements themselves do not assume players were "14 years old" back then.
You already asked that exact same question here and I've already answered it here.But what about all the adult players who found they loved the game but simply didn't have time to invest THEN? But now... their kids are grown, life on rails, and they have more time to play a game. I can see some of them seeing an ad for World of Warcraft Classic and them saying: "No way! I remember that game... sign me up!"
And I mirror the @huth's sentiments: it is also my experience that the older a person is, the less time they tend to have and/or the less desire to spend their time on games they have. I'm not saying they don't exist, but the type of player you described above seems to be the rare kind.
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
Hmmm.. being 53, I find it just the opposite, more time to put into my own interests. My son, who is now 26, while busier than ever before with new wife and career, also is excited to play Classic but does not play live. And he brings his wife as a total new player to WoW Classic.
People have forgotten what it was like to be excited to play WoW... because WoW has not offered and exciting, rewarding experience for years. Once again, Classic will appeal to those players looking for THAT experience.
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Have you taken a census of the people currently playing WoW? Maybe you should. I think you;d be surprised at the demographics of people still playing.
It's good that you do, man, but your example does not really counter huth's post.
That's a bold claim, my dude.People have forgotten what it was like to be excited to play WoW...
Have you? Where's your census data?Have you taken a census of the people currently playing WoW? Maybe you should. I think you;d be surprised at the demographics of people still playing.
I'm pretty sure I made it clear that what I said is my opinion, my experience. Never said it's a fact.
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
This really doesn't seem to be a very large number at all judging from the BfA forums.
Arrows shouldn't appear out of nowhere. They should be crafted or purchased from a merchant who makes their living doing so. That is an MMORPG.
Unlimited ammo, queueing up for content, RNG gear tokens, store mounts, toys, and pets? That is not.
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It clearly does. Now you are just being difficult for fun. One more ignored.
Specifically, diehard fans overestimate how many people will finish the 1-60 experience.
Questing itself is a treasure hunt of trying to find appropriate level quests scattered throughout the world. Fail to find enough of them and you run out, creating a questing deadzone where you need to grind. And combat, hah, hope you brought a lot of food / drink with you. Combat is slow and painful. Pull two mobs and you might be corpse running.
Not sure people appreciate just what Classic is. Slow and grueling, through and through.
God these threads are shit. Stupid people having pointless discussions.
just like anything with big hype.. everyone joins the hype and then it dies down after a few weeks/months.
It doesn't, because he never said it applies to everyone, and you just talked about your experience. If I said "most tourists that come from France were born in France", you saying "I'm a tourist from France but I wasn't born in France" in no way negates what I said.
Also, speaking of "ignoring", you just completely ignored the real question in my post. Where's your census data? After all, by claiming the results of a census would align with your views, it means you must have done a census yourself. I'm just asking to see your census data.
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
A lot of retail subs wont be even trying classic. Another high percentage will create a character, spend 2 hours and find they are lvl 6 and then never touch classic again. Some will play classic between patch gaps only. But I don’t expect that a lot of retail subs will go full classic only. What I think most possible, and I supose Blizzard hopes it too, is that old classic players come again and one day bite into retail because their sub includes it.
If anything, classic will bring more people into retail.
This is bullshit. I am a wrath baby and I've enjoyed playing on Nostalrius. I bet almost everyone that is currently playing and most people that have played in the past will at least check out classic.
btw. Call of Duty came out before WoW
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Everything points to the exact opposite though. People know exactly how retail is atm, because most WoW players will at least resub when a new expansion launches (that's why the subs have always gone over 10mio at the start since MoP), while the vast majority of the playerbase aren't even aware that you can play vanilla on a private server (that are also not a good representation of classic and that have many many issues).
If anything everyone that is currently subbed will check out classic, because it's free for them.
Ok, but you said it yourself. Everybody that is currently playing and people that played in the past. This is not the whole population of the world. It is a lot of people, but what about the people who never even tried out WoW before? I doubt they will be playing classic.
No, it rather clearly does not. Aside from you only giving anecdotal evidence that you, personally, have more available time, it also ignores that i was talking specificially about the game.
That you have more time to spend on your interests does not automatically mean that you have more time for any individual interest.
People asked for classic because they like playing the classic game and dicking around in that client. Of course, alot of ppl will probably get bored, but then it simply was not made for them and that is FINE. "Play it through" is really a weird term for an mmo with an endgame tbh. If all that matters to you is to mark off a checklist of raid progression, you should definately not bet too much on classic.
I realize it's a highly subjective topic, but I dont think BFA is a "bad" expansion because of the leveling process between 110 and 120. It sounds to me like you just aren't into wow anymore. If you started at level 1 then I think it is 100% a different issue, and I agree that leveling between 1 and 110 is pretty shitty on live.