the 3rd party app that sold you Blizzcon tickets apparently sells your personal data

[Kokolums]

Per Bellular tidbit:
https://youtu.be/Ix4T65NKxoQ?t=763

They are using a ticketing system called AXS. It has absurd permissions. It gets lots of personal data on an android and gives it to 3rd parties. And you have to use it to go to Blizzcon. So you have to fork over $200-$500 to go to Blizzcon AND hand over lots of personal data that will be sold to whomever the hell wants it. Is this a good thing if true?

[TickerDS]

Universe privacy policy is basically the same thing if you read it. This is basically fake news.

Yes, they use your info to market to you, yes your info might go to third parties.... but none of this is any different than what ticket master or universe does.....not to mention facebook, google, waze, pokemon go...the list goes on.

[AlmightyGerkin]

A lot of people don't read nor inquire about the apps they download. People are sheep and all it takes is just 1 and the rest follow. Only ones to blame is Blizzard for this shady app that is just an idiotic idea to sell your information like Facebook and google does but blame also falls upon to people attending Scamcon.

[TickerDS]

A lot of people don't read nor inquire about the apps they download. People are sheep and all it takes is just 1 and the rest follow. Only ones to blame is Blizzard for this shady app that is just an idiotic idea to sell your information like Facebook and google does but blame also falls upon to people attending Scamcon.

So, you were raging the last few years with universe too?

Also, when you start up the app on iOS, you are asked if you want to give the app permission to do things.


Bits from Universes policy:

We and third party organisations may use cookies to restrict the number of times you see the same advert or to show other adverts that may be more relevant to you - often called online behavioural advertising (OBA). OBA is a way of using information about your web-browsing activity, collected by using cookies implemented when browsing on the internet or opening our emails, and other information we or third party organisations have collected elsewhere to group you with other users into interest groups and show you advertisements based on those interests

We collect and store different types of information about you when you create an account, buy tickets, contact us, and use our websites, apps and social media. Learn More

Who We Share Your Data With & Why
Within the Live Nation Entertainment family of companies who provide services for us such as marketing, profiling, reporting and technical support.

Our third-party service providers (sometimes known as data processors) such as cloud computing providers who provide the IT infrastructure on which our products and systems are built.

We may share your information with our Sellers so that they can run the event and for other reasons described in their privacy policies. We will always name the Sellers when you purchase a ticket and you will be given the option to subscribe to receiving marketing from them.

Third parties who provide goods and services purchased by you (e.g. ticket insurance or merchandise) so that they can process and fulfil your orders.

Government agencies or other authorised bodies where permitted or required by law.

Any successor to all or part of our business.

How We Use Your Information & Why
This section explains how we use your information and the legal basis on which we use it.

For the performance of our contract with you

We use your information when you enter into a contract with us (for example to buy merchandise or a ticket) so we can:

process your order

take payment, and

provide you with customer support.

For our legitimate business interests

To conduct market research and analysis which helps improve and customise our products and services.

For our marketing purposes, unless your consent is required for such marketing (see section 3 below).

To send you customer service emails including booking confirmations and event reminders.

To prevent or detect unlawful behaviour, to protect or enforce our legal rights or as otherwise permitted by law. For example, making sure tickets get into the hands of real fans. As such, we may use your information to prevent ticket touting, misuse of our intellectual property (e.g. our or our Seller's brands), fraud, or other crimes.

To create a profile about you to help us personalise our services to you. For example, if you purchase tickets to pop events and you have consented to our marketing, we will inform you about other pop events we think you might be interested in. For further information, expand this section here.

To ensure the security of our and our Sellers' operations.

The above is basically what people are up in arms about axs doing....

[Kokolums]

Universe privacy policy is basically the same thing if you read it. This is basically fake news.

Yes, they use your info to market to you, yes your info might go to third parties.... but none of this is any different than what ticket master or universe does.....not to mention facebook, google, waze, pokemon go...the list goes on.

How is this fake news? Some people may not use ticketing agencies at all and so don't expose their personal data. But Blizzard might be forcing them to.

[SirCowdog]

Per Bellular tidbit:
https://youtu.be/Ix4T65NKxoQ?t=763

They are using a ticketing system called AXS. It has absurd permissions. It gets lots of personal data on an android and gives it to 3rd parties. And you have to use it to go to Blizzcon. So you have to fork over $200-$500 to go to Blizzcon AND hand over lots of personal data that will be sold to whomever the hell wants it. Is this a good thing if true?

The line where they reserve the right to sell your info to not just current associates, but FUTURE associates.

That app is predatory as hell. Do not install it.

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How is this fake news? Some people may not use ticketing agencies at all and so don't expose their personal data. But Blizzard might be forcing them to.

It's not fake news. It's someone attempting to downplay the shitty practices of mobile apps and selling your personal information.

The argument boils down to "Well other people are doing it, so it's not bad". Which is an utterly stupid way to think about it.

[TickerDS]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...n_controversy/

Read this.

[AlmightyGerkin]

So, you were raging the last few years with universe too?

What kind of reply is that?

[TickerDS]

How is this fake news? Some people may not use ticketing agencies at all and so don't expose their personal data. But Blizzard might be forcing them to.

Every ticket agency blizzard has ever used for blizzcon does/did the same thing. It is fake outrage.

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What kind of reply is that?

A question asked to see if you understand that nothing has changed vs years past. Just a different company they are selling tickets with....along with every sports team, concert venue, and other convention.

[AlmightyGerkin]

Every ticket agency blizzard has ever used for blizzcon does/did the same thing. It is fake outrage.

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A question asked to see if you understand that nothing has changed vs years past. Just a different company they are selling tickets with....along with every sports team, concert venue, and other convention.

Nothing has changed. It does change just in very small increments so it goes unnoticed

[TickerDS]

https://www.axs.com/about-privacy-policy_US_v2.html

If you take the time to read the actual policy, you will realize it is fake outrage.

TLDR

They share your info with third parties, yes, the company/event/venue you are going to.

They do monitor your browsing habits, like 99% of websites and apps do, to market to you.

Your payment info is shared with the third party partner....to facilitate the transaction. So yes, blizzard gets your payment info.. duh. Just like when you pay them for anything else. They do not give it to anyone else.

Oh that bit about it using your contacts list/phone feature, that is if you choose to transfer the ticket to someone else. Purely that.

And them following you around

When you consent to our use of location services, or otherwise depending on the settings on your mobile device, we or third party service providers may collect the precise location information provided by your device, including data provided by your GPS, WiFi, or data obtained when the Mobile App interacts with a beacon or other technology at a venue.

- you get asked if you want to do this, and can opt out if you dont want to.

I cannot imagine anyone who read the full policy would come out as outraged about it. It makes sense! Its how business is done on the internet. Should you guard your info, of course....but common sense people.

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Nothing has changed. It does change just in very small increments so it goes unnoticed

https://www.axs.com/about-privacy-policy_US_v2.html

Have you read the policy?

[Zentail]

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Exactly what TickerDS is saying. Everyone who is mad and outraged and whatnot is clearly mad because someone told them to be. There is literally nothing wrong going on here. I know many of you are mad at Blizzard over pointless things still but come on. Constructive feedback is good--Blizzard should hear your complaints.

If this is making you cry, you should be warned that you're crying about literally nothing because someone simply told you to cry. They created an issue and shoved it into your head to convince you how wrong it is so that you're not even aware that the issue put in your head isn't actually real.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Big Company Does Iffy Thing: *crickets*

Non-Big Company Does Same Thing: "This is actually the worst we need laws against this everyone should boycot the event this is the worst app ever made."

[c313]

well

welcome to half the shit you sign up for?

[Corroc]

Per Bellular tidbit:
https://youtu.be/Ix4T65NKxoQ?t=763

They are using a ticketing system called AXS. It has absurd permissions. It gets lots of personal data on an android and gives it to 3rd parties. And you have to use it to go to Blizzcon. So you have to fork over $200-$500 to go to Blizzcon AND hand over lots of personal data that will be sold to whomever the hell wants it. Is this a good thing if true?

There is actually really good post on the reddit about this that goes in to details and you decide to post some youtuber crap?

[AlmightyGerkin]

https://www.axs.com/about-privacy-policy_US_v2.html

If you take the time to read the actual policy, you will realize it is fake outrage.

TLDR

They share your info with third parties, yes, the company/event/venue you are going to.

They do monitor your browsing habits, like 99% of websites and apps do, to market to you.

Your payment info is shared with the third party partner....to facilitate the transaction. So yes, blizzard gets your payment info.. duh. Just like when you pay them for anything else. They do not give it to anyone else.

Oh that bit about it using your contacts list/phone feature, that is if you choose to transfer the ticket to someone else. Purely that.

And them following you around - you get asked if you want to do this, and can opt out if you dont want to.

I cannot imagine anyone who read the full policy would come out as outraged about it. It makes sense! Its how business is done on the internet. Should you guard your info, of course....but common sense people.

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https://www.axs.com/about-privacy-policy_US_v2.html

Have you read the policy?

Ya I have read the policy and been to discussions about this. People are not happy about all this information being released to Blizzard and whoever they choose as their "3rd party" companions. This is why companies do it in small increments it goes unnoticeable most of the time. Released all at once and this is the result.

[MoanaLisa]

There is actually really good post on the reddit about this that goes in to details and you decide to post some youtuber crap?

Agreed. TickerDS provided the link in post #7 in this thread. Everyone should go and read it and then return and say honestly whether or not they're extremely concerned about their privacy (and please let us know if you have Instagram, WhatsApp, Facebook, Twitter or other social media app on your phone or mobile device) or admit this is another convenient stick to use on Blizzard. While you're at it, please also let us know if you have tickets to Blizzcon.

Personally, I think there are lots of sticks scattered around that are pretty good for taking Blizzard to task. Strong, valid ones. This isn't one of them.

[Beerplz]

Most of you use twitter , reddit , facebook , instagram which is already doing that but you are concerned about an app you will probably not even use :? Nice :P

[SirCowdog]

No. That's factually incorrect. You don't have to give it permissions to harvest the said information (if it ever asks for it).
The app doesn't magically circumvent the Android permission system.

This is literally not any different from any other application on your phone.

If you scroll down in the linked thread, there's also this clarification:

Those mistakes are only concerning the permissions that the phone can use to obtain data that you do not enter, manually.

They still specifically state:

“We reserve the right to share your Personal Information with our current or future affiliated entities, subsidiaries, and parent companies,” says AXS’ privacy policy. “We may also share your Personal Information and other information with trusted third parties, such as our Partners, sponsors, or their affiliates and subsidiaries and other related entities for marketing, advertising, or other commercial purposes, and we may occasionally allow third parties to access certain Sites for marketing purposes.”

What they are NOT saying is that the only data that they will share will be collected by the app via permissions that you approved when installing.

What I mean is this:

ANY data, collected via app "scraping" AND/OR any data that you enter into the app, manually, is allowed to be shared with 3rd parties (listed in detail in the above quote). So, if the app asks for your NAME, or ADDRESS, or PHONE NUMBER, or anything else, it can be shared with those listed in the above quote. And you should expect it to be shared for profit made by the app dev, without giving you, the owner of your own personal data, any royalties.

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That said, I'm not saying that they will or will not collect and/or share your credit card or other financial information. I just wanted to make sure that this was clear.

TL;DR: Even though the original article was incorrect in listing the permissions that the app requires, those permissions may not be even the biggest door protecting your data. They can also share any data that you manually enter into the app. They do not specify what types of data, so it could be ANYTHING you enter into the app manually, along with whatever data obtained through giving the app permission to access your phone's data.

[Nalorakk]

I can guarantee 99% of the people outraged about this already have the exact same information compromised by various other apps, websites or programs, which is likely to have already been sold to the same companies this app will sell to.