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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Brewshine View Post
    All Titan related races are bad.
    Gnomes are cool. They never tried to exterminate any other race. They dug a bit too deep but they could not have known. They helped their friends, allies whilst their own homeland was being overrun by vermin and they were betrayed from within.

    Dwarves... well, there have been clashes with other native populations when they went out in the world but it was nothing like the Draenei genocide.
    Really, these two cousin-races pretty much disprove you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leodric View Post
    Did you play WoD? There was no corruption needed for the Orcs going all third reich style on the Draenei.
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    Garrosh, who had already been poisoned and learned to hate invigorated them to go third reich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Gnomes are cool. They never tried to exterminate any other race. They dug a bit too deep but they could not have known. They helped their friends, allies whilst their own homeland was being overrun by vermin and they were betrayed from within.
    The Gnomes tried to nuke the Troggs. And instead they nuked themselves (well, they did hit some Troggs too, it's just that they turned out to be resistant to the radiation). Killing 80% of Gnome population.
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    How exactly is blaming the Draenei for Draenor's destruction victim blaming? Fact of the matter is that the only reason the Legion ended up there was due to KJ pursuing Velen. The Draenei had a headstart on their Eredar pursuers, and in that period of relative peace the Orcs and Draenei got along just fine. Then, KJ locates the Draenei and slowly decieves key Orcs into allowing their people to be corrupted and slaughter their Draenei pals.

    The Orcs had no idea what they got themselves into. The Draenei knew exactly who they were dealing with, and chose to remain on an inhabited planet without telling anyone about the forces they fled from. KJ was beyond crafty, so that knowledge may not have prevented the Orcs from being corrupted, but the Draenei still could have fixed their ship and gone somewhere else before all hell broke loose.

    Not sure if that actually makes the Draenei evil, but the Naaru who encouraged them to sit tight and have faith in the 'light' certainly are. Especially given the events of AU Draenor, it's almost as if the Naaru want all Draenor's to implode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Gnomes are cool. They never tried to exterminate any other race. They dug a bit too deep but they could not have known. They helped their friends, allies whilst their own homeland was being overrun by vermin and they were betrayed from within.

    Dwarves... well, there have been clashes with other native populations when they went out in the world but it was nothing like the Draenei genocide.
    Really, these two cousin-races pretty much disprove you.
    I know, I was just over generalizing. I don’t agree all orcs are bad but they are certainly one of the most violent of the races descended from Titan creation.

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    Yea their fault the locals couldn't form enough brains to figure out the most basic super villain manipulation schemes.
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    The Gnomes tried to nuke the Troggs. And instead they nuked themselves (well, they did hit some Troggs too, it's just that they turned out to be resistant to the radiation). Killing 80% of Gnome population.
    They are vermin, no different from kobolds or even lower life forms. And they invaded Gnomeregan. A defensive, therefore just war (attempt).

  8. #28
    Be orc

    Encroach upon established Gorean territory and get mass inflicted with highly contagious Red Pox

    Be shaman of the clans

    Be retreating

    Be Gul'dan, an orc who spread the worst outbreak of Red Pox in Orcish history, killing hundreds in mere months

    Be the Shadow Council

    Be modifying Red Pox into Red Mist and releasing it over Shattrath, cutting the affected draenei off from the Light and turning them into Lost Ones and Broken

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Minikin View Post
    Yea their fault the locals couldn't form enough brains to figure out the most basic super villain manipulation schemes.
    To be fair the Draenei aren't much better, I mean how do they think they can still have a civilian population despite the fact that they know the legion is hunting for each and every last one of them, the entire race should have been taught in warfare from childhood, they shouldn't build beautiful cities, they should build practical fortresses, yet all they did was merely running through the cosmos absolutely clueless, until they ran out of gas and even then the moment it became clear escape was no longer possible they just sat on their hands going about their merry business, of course being caught entirely off guard.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by saintminya View Post
    How exactly is blaming the Draenei for Draenor's destruction victim blaming? Fact of the matter is that the only reason the Legion ended up there was due to KJ pursuing Velen. The Draenei had a headstart on their Eredar pursuers, and in that period of relative peace the Orcs and Draenei got along just fine. Then, KJ locates the Draenei and slowly decieves key Orcs into allowing their people to be corrupted and slaughter their Draenei pals.

    The Orcs had no idea what they got themselves into. The Draenei knew exactly who they were dealing with, and chose to remain on an inhabited planet without telling anyone about the forces they fled from. KJ was beyond crafty, so that knowledge may not have prevented the Orcs from being corrupted, but the Draenei still could have fixed their ship and gone somewhere else before all hell broke loose.

    Not sure if that actually makes the Draenei evil, but the Naaru who encouraged them to sit tight and have faith in the 'light' certainly are. Especially given the events of AU Draenor, it's almost as if the Naaru want all Draenor's to implode.
    The Draenei totally made the Orcs turn the planet to shit with Fel magic then blow it up after attempting a ritual where they would open more portals to more worlds to conquer because they turned theirs into shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    To be fair the Draenei aren't much better, I mean how do they think they can still have a civilian population despite the fact that they know the legion is hunting for each and every last one of them, the entire race should have been taught in warfare from childhood, they shouldn't build beautiful cities, they should build practical fortresses, yet all they did was merely running through the cosmos absolutely clueless, until they ran out of gas and even then the moment it became clear escape was no longer possible they just sat on their hands going about their merry business, of course being caught entirely off guard.
    Oh I don't disagree. Illidan called it out right. Just the OP twisting it to some next level victim complex is pretty funny. But then it is a bait thread after all.
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    Yrel did nothing wrong!
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    Voted Baine because... Well, Baine. Total nonsensical character, looks like World War II Italy, nobody really understands what role he's supposed to fill, not even himself

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxrokur View Post
    Yrel did nothing wrong!
    Subjugating the orcs, no not really, becoming a bootlicker for the naaru though, that is a different matter.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Subjugating the orcs, no not really, becoming a bootlicker for the naaru though, that is a different matter.
    Maybe she will pull a Ner'zhul/Arthas and overthrone the Naarus once she has learned and got enough power to get rid of them.
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    No, she is my waifu. Stop posting and delete this thread immediately.
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    Voted Baine because... Well, Baine. Total nonsensical character, looks like World War II Italy, nobody really understands what role he's supposed to fill, not even himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by seleri View Post
    Man'ari are the evil ones.

    Draenei are the good guys.

    I think you're confused.

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    The only reason the orcs were corrupted in the first place, and why Draenor was destroyed, was a direct result of the Draenei's selfish and inconsiderate actions. What exactly are you not understanding here?...
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  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxrokur View Post
    Maybe she will pull a Ner'zhul/Arthas and overthrow the Naarus once she has learned and got enough power to get rid of them.
    If she builds a proper empire on Draenor I'd say it was worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    BECAUSE said space lucifer corrupted the orcs and made them do it
    except many of the orcs who did killing did so without green in their blood.
    also i think you forget they were not tricked many of them, they willingly took it, and when they "broke free" from the demons, they then begged and sacrificed humans to get more of the green.


    dude you have so many horrible threads now where you just do nothing but alter the lore and leave out key points.
    draenei did not name the planet
    draenei did try to talk to the orcs, and they were not accepting, they even tried to explain oshugan was their ship, but the orcs REALLY did not like that "our holy place your ship!?"

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    The only reason the trade center was destroyed, was because it was created by the americans, AMERICAS FAULT!

    stop victim blaming my dude, both you and op are horrible at it.
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    Orcs try to genocide Draenei, it doesn't work and bad things happen. Must be the Draenei's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saintminya View Post
    How exactly is blaming the Draenei for Draenor's destruction victim blaming? Fact of the matter is that the only reason the Legion ended up there was due to KJ pursuing Velen. The Draenei had a headstart on their Eredar pursuers, and in that period of relative peace the Orcs and Draenei got along just fine. Then, KJ locates the Draenei and slowly decieves key Orcs into allowing their people to be corrupted and slaughter their Draenei pals.

    The Orcs had no idea what they got themselves into. The Draenei knew exactly who they were dealing with, and chose to remain on an inhabited planet without telling anyone about the forces they fled from. KJ was beyond crafty, so that knowledge may not have prevented the Orcs from being corrupted, but the Draenei still could have fixed their ship and gone somewhere else before all hell broke loose.

    Not sure if that actually makes the Draenei evil, but the Naaru who encouraged them to sit tight and have faith in the 'light' certainly are. Especially given the events of AU Draenor, it's almost as if the Naaru want all Draenor's to implode.
    How did the draenei make the orcs accept fel magic?
    how did the draenei make the orcs slaughter millions of defenceless draenei?
    how did the draenei make the orcs open portals to other worlds to the point their planet blew up?
    how did the draenei make the orcs join the demons, and sacrifice humans on azeroth to get more demon blood, after the demon blood wore off the first time?
    how did the draenei make the orcs destroy the worlds lands with taint and corruption?
    how did the draenei make the orcs kill an elemental lord and create a massive fel volcano?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    If she builds a proper empire on Draenor I'd say it was worth it.
    You took the words out of my mouth! I would even said for once in the entire WoW history, the alliance finnaly got a really interesting story and 1 character with potential for more storylines like that
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    No, she is my waifu. Stop posting and delete this thread immediately.
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    Voted Baine because... Well, Baine. Total nonsensical character, looks like World War II Italy, nobody really understands what role he's supposed to fill, not even himself

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