Trump pardons a US Army soldier convicted of murdering an Iraqi Man

[ParanoiD84]

Yeah too bad about that pesky thing called proof and evidence.

Of course i was typing from the point of view that he was guilty and i can understand the soldier getting emotional having not one but multiple close friends getting killed and the only or one of the guys they had in custody getting released. Think i could see myself doing the same, perhaps you would too, easy to say no though untill you have alot of close friends getting killed.

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Of course i was typing from the point of view that he was guilty and i can understand the soldier getting emotional having not one but multiple close friends getting killed and the only or one of the guys they had in custody getting released. Think i could see myself doing the same, perhaps you would too, easy to say no though untill you have alot of close friends getting killed.

None of which justifies or excuses murder.

[ParanoiD84]

None of which justifies or excuses murder.

Just talking from the soldiers point of view or mine whatever but your right.

Still it seems the soldier didnt care what happened to him after only that he got his revenge, so i think hes happy with himself doing what he did, but if new evidence will come that points to his the iraqis innocence then im all for doing what the army does, hanging him or life sentence.

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Just talking from the soldiers point of view or mine whatever but your right.

Still it seems the soldier didnt care what happened to him after only that he got his revenge, so i think hes happy with himself doing what he did, but if new evidence will come that points to his the iraqis innocence then im all for doing what the army does, hanging him or life sentence.

Innocence or guilt wasn't up to the soldier to determine, and has no bearing on his actions. You don't get to murder someone you think may be a serial killer and then "get away" with it because it's proven that they were a serial killer later.

Soldiers are soldiers, not judges, juries and executioners.

[Worvon]

Well of course cheeto pardoned him, he murdered a brown person. The klansman-in-chief loves that and it gained him points with his biggest demographic, racist xenophobes.

[Orbitus]

Well of course cheeto pardoned him, he murdered a brown person. The klansman-in-chief loves that and it gained him points with his biggest demographic, racist xenophobes.

Also not surprising that a bunch of racists on here are defending the murdering of an innocent person.

[Hilhen7]

Also not surprising that a bunch of racists on here are defending the murdering of an innocent person.

Sadly we Americans don't believe in innocent until proven guilty..... (For minorities)

[Thekri]

Just talking from the soldiers point of view or mine whatever but your right.

Still it seems the soldier didnt care what happened to him after only that he got his revenge, so i think hes happy with himself doing what he did, but if new evidence will come that points to his the iraqis innocence then im all for doing what the army does, hanging him or life sentence.

Well that won't happen now, because Trump pardoned him for it. Which is the topic of this thread. As horrible as the crime is, it was done as a result of being emotionally overloaded by combat. Trump pardoned him and endorsed the act purely to feed the mob. I agree Behenna doubtless felt that the consequences were worth it. So let him pay the damn price for what he did, don't pardon him for a murder he doesn't even regret.

Oh, and the innocence of the Iraqi is absolutely not the point. Murder isn't graded on a scale of how bad the person you murdered is.

[Realitytrembles]

Hey, he has a consistent message. I mean it is absolutely horrifying, but he stays pretty true to his core message. His core tenant is that the only form of human life that is valuable is American citizens*.

*Offer not valid for Non-Christian, Non-White, or Non-Republican American Citizens.

Wrong. None of that matters. As long as someone is legally an American citizen, they are my family. if they are not an American, they might as well be dust.

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Quoting this because this is now the state of these forums. This is now, apparently, acceptable behavior.

I'd tag a mod, but I'd be more likely to be infracted.

It's my honest opinion. I care about my fellow Americans. Everybody else?

Why should I?

[Canpinter]

It's my honest opinion. I care about my fellow Americans. Everybody else?

Why should I?

because basic human compassion is a thing even if they are not part of your tribe.

[Orbitus]

Wrong. None of that matters. As long as someone is legally an American citizen, they are my family. if they are not an American, they might as well be dust.

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It's my honest opinion. I care about my fellow Americans. Everybody else?

Why should I?

There is something fucking wrong with you.

[Bdatik]

It's my honest opinion. I care about my fellow Americans. Everybody else?

Why should I?

That line of thinking is disgusting and is a prime example why this place is a shitshow and why our politics are the way they are currently. You don't give a fuck if someone is murdered simply because they're not American. Absolutely disgusting. You're likely one step away for calling for helicopter rides for those you disagree with as well.

And the fact that moderators are openly allowing this kind of talk is disgusting as well.

[Machismo]

Wrong. None of that matters. As long as someone is legally an American citizen, they are my family. if they are not an American, they might as well be dust.

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It's my honest opinion. I care about my fellow Americans. Everybody else?

Why should I?

Yes, the rallying cry of violent authoritarians and fascists...

[luckydevours]

I really don't give a crap because the deceased wasn't an American citizen.

The only "right" non-Americans have when one of our soldiers puts a gun in their face is simple: do as you're told and answer all questions.

I've said before I disagree fundamentally with the very concept of a war crime.

For me, losing is the only crime on the field of battle.

So, you're telling us that if you were a German during WW2, you would join the SS and send Jews into gas chambers, because they are not on your team, but on the loosing side and war crimes are not a thing, am i right?