Is there any way to permanently get rid of pornography or censor it from the youth?

[Bigbazz]

This is a genuinely bizarre position to take. Do you really believe porn is not more stimulating than imagination? Do you really think there was no reason people 'improved' the technology of porn? This line can suffice for the whole back and forth since it's at the core of all this.

I believe that stimulation is subjective, personal and yes for me and many others I've discussed this with in my life porn is less stimulating than the imagination. I'm asking you to confirm whether or not you disagree that it's subjective and personal.

[Kraenen]

I believe that stimulation is subjective, personal and yes for me and many others I've discussed this with in my life porn is less stimulating than the imagination. I'm asking you to confirm whether or not you disagree that it's subjective and personal.

Odd, given the massive popularity of porn and the investment for higher quality videos.

To yours: it's subjective in the sense that there are different tastes for the same thing (sex). Imagine if we had some medium that gave people what they wanted...

[LCDArcade]

I'm not one to usually comment on sensitive subjects like this but taking away porn or censoring it in the US would ultimately do a lot more harm than good.

Porn is used as an outlet for people to carry out fantasies in a safe non-destructive way. There are millions of people every day who watch porn and use it as a distraction; just imagine if porn was illegal or censored to a degree which tempted people to go out and harm others to get there fix. Every teenage boy would be trying to stick it into every girl who walked in front of them.

Yes you could argue watching porn makes people want to have sex even more and to that I agree to some extent however these cases are few and far between in terms of seeking it out in a harmful manner.

Believe me, you want people watching porn.

[Bigbazz]

To yours: it's subjective in the sense that there are different tastes for the same thing (sex). Imagine if we had some medium that gave people what they wanted...

Porn improving/evolving is a natural course of an industry, I'm not denying that porn is effective I'm saying that it's not objectively more effective just because it has evolved, and I'm also saying it's not objectively more effective than other forms of stimulation. There are plenty of people who prefer to look at a dirty photo than a dirty video. I know people who get more turned on looking at clothed photos than anything else because their imagination runs wild.

Which comes to the core of it, is it more rewarding (if you can even use that term in this context, I don't think you can) for someone to imagine having sex with their crush than it is to watch porn? I think yes, and I'm not the only one... That makes this whole topic very subjective and personal, which your point of view pretty much denies because you have some skewed view on how people view or react to porn on the whole.

[Dellis0991]

I know in the US we try to teach older kids to steer their eyes away from pornography for their own good because it's sinful or harmful, but it seems futile based on the amount of sex-crazed teenagers on average. Parents and teachers still try if the movement of censorship against porn is any indication, but with how sexual content is so integrated into pop culture and all over the internet, it makes me wonder if it's just a losing battle and if it's pointless to even try.

Are you too slow to realize the hormonal, mental and physical changes a human being goes through when they hit puberty? It's fucking mess and beating ya meat like it owes you money is not even the worse thing about it. Teens are going to find a why of dealing with that sexual tension one way or another and porn is not worst as teens fucking. Are you telling me you never beat your shit as a teen or got horny?

[Kraenen]

Porn improving/evolving is a natural course of an industry, I'm not denying that porn is effective I'm saying that it's not objectively more effective just because it has evolved, and I'm also saying it's not objectively more effective than other forms of stimulation. There are plenty of people who prefer to look at a dirty photo than a dirty video. I know people who get more turned on looking at clothed photos than anything else because their imagination runs wild.

Why is it a natural course of an industry, and why are more people watching it now than ever? For the people into it, greater levels of stimulation is what they wanted (at least, their neurochemistry told them), and the industry responded. They used to just look at pinups, now they're into something more stimulating.

It's great you know people who feel this way, it really is nice they exist.This anecdote does not hold up against the greater population. It does not contradict the point that porn has an effect on people - calling them addicts is irrelev

Which comes to the core of it, is it more rewarding for someone to imagine having sex with their crush than it is to watch porn? I think yes, and then is that a bad thing if it means they masturbate while thinking about their crush instead of pursuing that person and possibly having sex (or being rejected?)... That's no different to the situation with porn, the actual core of any problem if there is one (casting aside literal porn addicts) is that sex didn't take place.

You're limiting your considerations to people you know that enjoy thinking about having sex with their crush more than watching porn in order to prove porn has no effect on people (there's some circularity involved here). I'd say the overt behavior of watching porn (millions of views, and imagine the bandwidth) trumps this.

The central point you're making is that you know people who get aroused by thinking of a crush more than watching porn, and that therefore porn does not have an affect on people. This isn't a valid conclusion.

But sex not taking place isn't necessarily a bad thing, the world is overpopulated as fuck and people are having kids older because they are focussing on their careers instead of having a kid at 17 years old, there is a balance to this.

Don't really disagree with this.

[Trassk]

um... k? that wasn't part of my posts at all.

He lost the argument already and moved onto ad hominem. Fact is masturbations healthy, and finding ways to reach that like with porn helps get there. He just thinks it ruins relationships or some moronic notion pushed by religious indoctrination.

[Revamp Man]

Maybe just good parenting??

[Osmeric]

“Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.” -- H. L. Mencken

It's interesting to see that the urge to ruin others' happiness remains vibrant and strong in the fundamentalist psyche.

Porn is bad in the same sense chocolate is bad.

[Lochton]

I know in the US we try to teach older kids to steer their eyes away from pornography for their own good because it's sinful or harmful, but it seems futile based on the amount of sex-crazed teenagers on average. Parents and teachers still try if the movement of censorship against porn is any indication, but with how sexual content is so integrated into pop culture and all over the internet, it makes me wonder if it's just a losing battle and if it's pointless to even try.

You can't rid of it from the youth for there's always others to share. You either rid it completely, or minimize it.

[TwistedSkull]

I really can't see anything wrong with watching porn over the age of 15.

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

normal porn is fine.

just gotta tell your kid the porn where the girl gets pee'd on and is getting railed but what looks like an erector set with a dildo fashioned onto it that that's not normal sex.

also have to tell them that not all girls have a perfect 10 body and not all guys a have 8+ inch dick.

most porn is a fantasy, just like those avengers movies, star wars, matrix, etc...

[dippinsawse]

Porn is bad in the same sense chocolate is bad.

So...we should keep porn away from our dogs?

[Trassk]

So...we should keep porn away from our dogs?

Do you expose porn to your dog's?

[Vash The Stampede]

I know in the US we try to teach older kids to steer their eyes away from pornography for their own good because it's sinful or harmful, but it seems futile based on the amount of sex-crazed teenagers on average. Parents and teachers still try if the movement of censorship against porn is any indication, but with how sexual content is so integrated into pop culture and all over the internet, it makes me wonder if it's just a losing battle and if it's pointless to even try.

For a horny teenager, anything with some skin is viable porn. With the power of the internet, anything can become porn. Anything can be porn! I would leave it alone and hope they don't want Sonic Movie porn.

[Sylar Hao]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with pornography or sex. It's part of our primal nature, and we shouldn't get rid of it but embrace it. Instead of forbidding an inner core part of our being we should educate the youth that it is a natural thing nobody should be ashamed of. I bet if sex lost all the taboo it's got (mostly due to religions and their instruments to mass control people through fear to death) young people wouldn't be so interested in it so early and they'd have better sexual lives in their adulthood (no fear, no regrets, no weird philias...)

[Mistame]

Maybe, but there's a difference between creating a foundation for them to procreate in a healthy manner, and just saying "the hell with it, there going to see it anyway".

Fallacious implication that sex is primarily for procreation.

The good news is I have another 7ish years in which i can be a cam girl and maybe sell panties for some side cash.

I'll never understand this "fetish". Fish stink.

It is a bastardization of the act of two bodies coming together and essentially performing the miracle of life.

Fallacious implication that sex is primarily for procreation #2.

Seriously, take your idiotic faux morality somewhere else. The adults are talking.

[Spiel]

Short answer; No
Long answer; No

If you are so worried about the effects of porn on your children or others, education is ALWAYS better than restriction.

[Sylar Hao]

Uh there is plenty wrong with the porn industry.

Like any industry. But nothing wrong with porn itself.

[Tabrotar]

Like I said it's like talking to a brick wall. I wonder why people so persistently and consistently either twist words, make straw men, or just ignore points? Is it because we're talking about a highly addictive behavior that's being criticized?

Maybe. just maybe bcs we´re adults and don´t want to have some stupid little fuckers berate us if we want to wank?

And standing there on the moral highground saying "Wanking is bad, it damages you for life, think of the chikdren" and so on.