I'm kinda getting that feeling too. I really miss having actual debates with people on this forum, we seem to be left with bad faith and shit posters, or people who just can't admit being wrong and moving on. Watch, the next 15 posts from him will be about how "[I] kinda did".
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...rce=reddit.com
More american's are for impeachment than against right now, and that is rising.
But the Impeachment process was began before the 1998 midterms, and it's widely believed (I'll have to find links) that initiating that inquiry riled up the DNC and caused the loss of seats suffered by the GOP that year. Let me find the links though, they explain it better than I am now.
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Interesting (good source btw, thank you for that). And here is where I run into problems. I agree that morally it's the right thing to do. But we also have a greater duty to get the criminal Trump out of the White House - that is a de facto priority for all thinking Americans. If Impeaching him now, which won't lead to his ouster early, doesn't work or causes Trump to win more votes and retain the White House, we can't risk it.
What we can do is continue with the criminal inquiries and investigations, such as we are now, and see where they lead.
Even it democrats don't start impeachment preceding , trump and republicans will still campaign on "the evil dems trying to impeach the president" so they really have little to lose in starting it to get access to more information and evidence.
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it gets the base fired up "they want to take your president from you!" and so on. not saying its not stupid, just that the republicans WILL campaign on it regardless of what the democrats actually do, so they might as well start the process because it gets them a lot more information.
Here is a dark version... Do you think Bernie or Biden have a better chance against Trump or Pence?
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I think that’s my bad. I focused on Trump doing it, but I think you mean just republicans in general. That makes sense... sorry...
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I think Pence would be a competent version of Trump. I think he is horribly wrong on a lot of issues, but I cannot call him a moron. Plus, if you think about the current political climate of it being two extremes between Trump and crazy socialist. Pence would fall closest to center. I heart conspiracy theories, I’d read one that focused on democrats sandbagging impeachment, because Pence is like Trump, but without the idiocy. Like... Pence would read security briefings... I mean... Pence would read!
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eh, remember they did that in 2018
even with Pelosi (wait it this a time loop? cats aren't younger, cut from work still there, nm) saying “This election cannot be about impeachment. I don’t think it’s in the interest of America’s working families to focus on that, unless we have more to go on, which we don’t at this time,”
Again, the senate does not need to vote to convict for this to be a bad thing for trump. Making the evidence public is bad for trump, or he wouldn't be stonewalling. Being able to say, "Look at the evidence, and their unwillingness to follow the law," is a big loss for every GOP senator who votes against it. People didn't care about clinton's obstruction because of the subject matter starr was investigating. No one gave a shit about infidelity. People care about betraying our country to russia.
When you have the clearance to see the whole thing but can't isn't theater. That would be like me having VIP tickets to a concert and only being allowed to see the drinking fountain.
Seriously, try less, 'cause with each post you sure are trying to.
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Add a former Supreme Court justice that thinks Trump is abusing powers with ignoring subpoenas too. Must be just "another opinion" - @rda.
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How to septuple down on ignorance after not reading the report.
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The real question is will the leftists still be pushing hoaxes 6 years from now... can CNN even survive that long at the current rate of layoffs...
But let the lefties continue to cry as the rest of the country laughs.
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