Will there be a WoW token?

[Elias01]

Sure there is token gl farming 200k+ gold in classic

[Kathranis]

No token, it would inflate the prices of everything.

It wouldn't, the auction price for WoW Tokens is determined by what people are willing to pay for it.

WoW Token on the Classic AH would probably be priced more in the realm of, what? 1000g, maybe? Basically the cost of a mount.

I don't think it'll happen, but people shouldn't pretend that RMT wasn't a thing in Classic. There was plenty of botting, keylogging, and gold selling going on.

[crakerjack]

Tokens and services will not ruin Classic just like they did not ruin retail. In absence of a better/safer alternative 'traditional' unsanctioned gold and leveling services were always and will be present, with all the account theft, endemic botting, CC fraud, tradespam and expensive support headaches this accompanies.

Just like in retail, you are not required to buy wow tokens or character boosts. I have never bougth a wow token with cash, nor character boost and play just fine. I have bought plenty with gold and maintain a maxed out Blizzard Balance that way though.

I really wonder whether people that make these strong opposition statements ever played WoW before the WoW token was introduced and after. The fantasy fairy-tails they seem to conjure up never existed.

As said before, I don't think Blizzard will have the balls to go live with the token and services on Classic launch day, as the Youtube 'influences' { XD } that have to make a living of controversy couldn't let that one pass, but they will just let the situation get out of hand as before and then step in with the known and proven remedy long prepared.

It will ruin the game though. More people buying WoW tokens means less people out in the world farming. You made gold either by using your professions and running the AH or farming mobs and BoE's. I remember being in 5 man farm groups when I was grinding away to buy my epic mount. If someone is given the options: Grind for months upon months or spend $20, they're going to spend $20 through and through. What made vanilla fun is that you were forced to interact with other people and it really felt like you were working along with other people to accomplish your goals. With LFD, it might as well be NPC's I'm playing with because there's 0 interactions. It was impossible for a group to sit in silence for 20+ minutes as everyone made their way to the dungeon entrance.

All these things start to go out the window when enough people buy WoW tokens and buy their carries/mounts etc. These are the activities in WoW that bring people together and kickstart communities that grow. I'm not saying carries weren't a thing in vanilla, but you can't disagree that they won't be more prominent than before if people are able to have infinite amounts of gold buy dropping $20 anytime they want.

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You don't see a problem with a P2W feature? What the heck? Gold is a big deal in Classic WoW and adding such a huge P2W feature would absolutely destroy Classic. Tokens won't be added to Classic.

I agree that Classic shouldn't have WoW tokens, but lets be real, it's nowhere close to P2W. People spending real currency won't be any better than the average person. They might have better gear, but the gear is obtainable by everyone playing the game. It would be one thing if them spending real currency gave them an advantage you couldn't obtain in game, but that's not the case. If someone gets a carry through MC and gets a couple of pieces of gear, that doesn't mean it's P2W.

[Ferg]

Why is this thread so long? Even if tokens aren't purchasable in classic, they'll still be purchasable in the current version of the game and the sub is for the entire account...so yes, tokens affect classic even if they aren't purchasable in the mode itself. What is the issue here?

[Malacrass]

Why is this thread so long? Even if tokens aren't purchasable in classic, they'll still be purchasable in the current version of the game and the sub is for the entire account...so yes, tokens affect classic even if they aren't purchasable in the mode itself. What is the issue here?

People are either dumb or willfully ignorant, that's why.

The only question is if they directly promote a classic token through the classic auction house or if they simply leave it to cummunity-trading between modes.

[khazmodan]

Bro...

If you think Blizzard will pass on $20 a month over $15 a month then you're being delusional (the token will be in Classic).

Unfortunately I think you are right, Activision/Blizzard is all about the short term cash grab now and that token money cannot be resisted by Activision CEO Robert Nodick.

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Why is this thread so long? Even if tokens aren't purchasable in classic, they'll still be purchasable in the current version of the game and the sub is for the entire account...so yes, tokens affect classic even if they aren't purchasable in the mode itself. What is the issue here?

You really can't figure out why?, there are a ton of people that look at retail as cancer and want nothing to do with it. This means buying or selling the token means nothing to them unless it is actually selling for gold in the Vanilla auction house.

[lortsy12]

I agree that Classic shouldn't have WoW tokens, but lets be real, it's nowhere close to P2W. People spending real currency won't be any better than the average person. They might have better gear, but the gear is obtainable by everyone playing the game. It would be one thing if them spending real currency gave them an advantage you couldn't obtain in game, but that's not the case. If someone gets a carry through MC and gets a couple of pieces of gear, that doesn't mean it's P2W.

Of course it is P2W since you can get an advantage by being able to buy your mount with real money and being able to buy good items with real money.

[Frolk]

I hope that by reaching lvl 60 ull get a free wowtoken, to give u a "boost" for reaching lvl 60

[CarlingBlackLabel]

Blizzard have stated that it won't be in Classic. Bloody well better not be either!

[HuxNeva]

Grind for months upon months or spend $20

In retail 20$ buys you the equivalent amount of gold you would get through 3 to 8 hours of grinding. Since time is valued the same, I would assume that 20$ in Classic would buy you the same amount of gold that you would grind in 3 to 8 hours there.

[Chaelexi]

No token, it would inflate the prices of everything.

That is a myth. The token would be priced accordingly, likely a couple hundred gold. It does not add gold to a market it just redistributes it. WoW tokens are the socialism of WoW. What it does do is limit the amount of gold selling there is in the game.

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Blizzard have stated that it won't be in Classic. Bloody well better not be either!

They have never said that there will not be a token and I am willing to bet there will be one. The excuse of there was not one in vanilla as an argument does not hold water. There was lag, disconnects and horrible exploits those will be fixed, gold sellers fall into the same category, this is a fix to that.

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Of course it is P2W since you can get an advantage by being able to buy your mount with real money and being able to buy good items with real money.

Guess what you could in Vanilla as well through Chinese gold farmers that sold gold, it just means that it done in a community controlled manner that the price is dictated by the price people are willing to spend on it. In Vanilla most of the top 50 guilds had a large portion of the guild buying gold.

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You don't see a problem with a P2W feature? What the heck? Gold is a big deal in Classic WoW and adding such a huge P2W feature would absolutely destroy Classic. Tokens won't be added to Classic.

It is not pay to win. Pay to win by description is being able to pay for something that gives you an unavailable advantage over someone who invests time in the game. Everything that the gold from a token provides is available to people who are willing spend time within the game. It is not like you are able to use real money for an Upgraded version of Thunderfury or get T3 when Naxx is not yet released. That would be pay to win. A token just reduces the time someone needs to spend farming for XXX or allows them to get a jump on the AH.

[xGLxAnubis]

You say dumb shit about classic and call other people dumb in every classic thread there is on this forum.

And literally the second when the tokens were added to the game they were exactly at 35000 gold, set by Blizzard. Can you one fucking time think or do some research before posting?!

But but but... That 35k gold came from a PLAYER purchasing it for 35k gold, and that 35k gold was then transferred to another player that was selling the token... Blizz didn't generate the gold, a player supplied it to another player.

WoW Tokens DO NOT generate in game gold, at all.

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...It will ruin the game though. More people buying WoW tokens means less people out in the world farming...

But SOMEONE still has to be out in the world farming the gold to purchase the token in the first place...

[Chaelexi]

Sure there is token gl farming 200k+ gold in classic

IT would not cost 200k, the token price is controlled by what people are willing to pay. If there are more tokens then people regularly buying the token price will drop if there is a steady flow of purchase and sales it stays the same and when blizzard releases a new game/xpac and people want to buy it then the cost of tokens spike as there is no supply of tokes.... In classic a token would likely start in the price range of 100g and increase as there is more gold in the marketplace.

[xGLxAnubis]

ITT: People who don't know how a WoW token actually works, let alone an economy.

[Chaelexi]

Nope and very good. Gold is of too much power in Classic.

A token does not create gold, it just redistributes it.

[Azerox]

Already cant wait to earn alot of moneyzzz

[Battlebeard]

Without WoW tokens, gold sellers will take over again.

With WoW tokens, the game is ruined anyway, cause it's not suppose to be easy to get gold and the game should absolutely not be legal pay to win.

So I actually prefer 3rd party gold sellers, would never risk the ban to buy it, hopefully people reason the same and that Blizzard find a good system to insta perma ban anyone who buy gold.

[Vineri]

If there exists a token, I'd rather play other games.

The token became a thing in order to deflate current-WoW. There is no room for buying BOE's in Vanilla. It would be a major turn-off, since many of the top trade-skill recipes / plans / formulas (etc) are BOE. Along with some nice equipment boosters. Tokens would kill the concept of having an original Vanilla experience.

Anyways, Activision-Blizzard has become much better at detecting scams and tracking gold sales; to eliminate all said accounts. 3rd party gold sellers are a thing of the past (mostly) on live.

Gold sellers get their massive gold via exploits, or via hacking. Which are both nerfed. If a seller wishes to play "normally" to acquire gold, well it could work for awhile .. or at least until Activision-Blizzard detects gold being sent to different account -- at which, /eyebrow.

Now tokens spent on live to finance Classic addiction. No problem there.

[Sevarin]

It's an absurd argument, because you ASSUME that I can't afford it. In fact, your argument is, in terms of logic, one of the lowest arguments that you can make, i.e. name-calling or derision.

you should probably learn what the word "if" means. i never once said you couldnt, i said IF you cant. dont try to sound intelligent when you cant understand a simple word like if. it really doesnt work well.

i guess its to be expected of someone that thinks theyre literally forced to play retail to buy tokens.

[Spiffums]

Blizzard has better tools to deal with gold sellers than they did in vanilla, and yes there will still be a lot of them lol. WoW token would never be a thing, it would undermine too much of the core mechanics of vanilla WoW gameplay.

But it won't be Vanilla then!!