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    These rural people will blame urban, city areas for losing the doctors and health services or at least told by Fox News and right-wing mouth pieces.

    I try to consider myself a compassionate and empathic person. I would like to help these rural communities but they just fight against their interests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeezusisacasual View Post
    Want to know the difference between Alabama and my home state Wyoming? You guys atleast have good food.

    This is further reason as to why we need a nationalized healthcare system to help those who do not even understand the lack of availability will cause them going forward. The funny part is even here when i speak of various social programs they tend to agree and think well that sounds like a union in how it works the pricing system. But they honestly think that the Republicans will do it for them its insane.
    Yeah, when I tell out of state friends about Alabama, I say the food and football are really good, and that's usually where I try to change the subject.

    It's also a common theme among red states that they have some of the worst health standards and a higher percentage of obese people. Lack of educational attainment and an overall disdain for anything academic is also a repeating them. I joke with my family all the time about how if this country amiably split(bringing back the Confederate states separate from America) how quickly they would descend into 3rd world status.

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    I will never understand why conservatives hate sick people so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    You get what you vote for.

    I'd say let Darwin take care of things, but I also know the current Republican establishment will just demand the dirty coastal elite to come bail out their constituents like they always do.
    Dirty coastal elites take care of their own rural communities. Red states can complain all they want about California. However, between 2010 and 2019, California only had four (4) rural hospital closures. Three (3) reopened with State funding (Coalinga Regional Medical Center, Colusa Regional Medical Center, Kingsburg Medical Center). The last one, Adventist Health Feather River Hospital in Paradise, burned down during the Camp fire last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    I mean, I hate to be cruel but I live around these people. They'll complain about the gubbermint not giving them their welfare/ssi/ssdi/handouts with one cheek and then turn around and vote for every politician who champions privatizing everything and cutting public services.

    They're idiots. Plain and simple. They're hypocrites and they're idiots. And they're getting what they're voting for.
    A lot of them would like government aid, but they also don't want government pushing a social agenda along with that aid. They would like medical care, but don't push abortions or social justice on them. To that end, they will accept cash payouts like welfare or SSI, but start funding government hospitals that perform abortions and it upsets them.

    Give them a hospital that bans abortions, is 100% inclusive with christianity, and they'll be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    A lot of them would like government aid, but they also don't want government pushing a social agenda along with that aid. They would like medical care, but don't push abortions or social justice on them. To that end, they will accept cash payouts like welfare or SSI, but start funding government hospitals that perform abortions and it upsets them.

    Give them a hospital that bans abortions, is 100% inclusive with christianity, and they'll be happy.
    The states with the most rural hospital closures and at-risk rural hospitals are Mississippi, Alabama, Montana, Kansas, Georgia & Texas. All anti-abortion states. So there shouldn't be any problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Give them a hospital that bans abortions, is 100% inclusive with christianity, and they'll be happy.
    Except when they need abortions.

    And what do you even mean by "inclusive with christianity" ? There are no hospitals that won't treat Christian people. Do you just mean that as code for a hospital that won't treat gay people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    A lot of them would like government aid, but they also don't want government pushing a social agenda along with that aid. They would like medical care, but don't push abortions or social justice on them. To that end, they will accept cash payouts like welfare or SSI, but start funding government hospitals that perform abortions and it upsets them.

    Give them a hospital that bans abortions, is 100% inclusive with christianity, and they'll be happy.
    Everybody wants free money with no strings attached.

    Nobody gets it. These people are just dumb enough to think they're special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I will never understand why conservatives hate sick people so much.
    The scapegoat them because that's what conservative dogma demands of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Give them a hospital that bans abortions, is 100% inclusive with christianity, and they'll be happy.
    Give them a hospital that bans black people, Muslims and jews and they'll be happy. The entire conservative argument against government hand outs is that only white people should have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trifle View Post
    Except when they need abortions.
    Exactly, amazing how its suddenly ok then. My small town, white, catholic religion teacher's daughter (both super religious and anti abortion etc) got knocked up by *gasp* a black guy when we were in high school; I'm sure you can guess the rest.

    Just goes to show the hypocrisy of these people.

    I personally don't follow the whole abortion debate much, and don't know enough about it to give an opinion. But I'll never forget that person and her daughter's hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonstream View Post
    Exactly, amazing how its suddenly ok then. My small town, white, catholic religion teacher's daughter (both super religious and anti abortion etc) got knocked up by *gasp* a black guy when we were in high school; I'm sure you can guess the rest.

    Just goes to show the hypocrisy of these people.

    I personally don't follow the whole abortion debate much, and don't know enough about it to give an opinion. But I'll never forget that person and her daughter's hypocrisy.
    Considering the entire debate as it currently stands in the US was started as a pretext to get Evangelical christians out and voting, that's unsurprising. There's no moral substance there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Considering the entire debate as it currently stands in the US was started as a pretext to get Evangelical christians out and voting, that's unsurprising. There's no moral substance there.
    Last year Slacktivism did a great article on the history of the "anti-abortion movement".

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    In 1979, McDonald’s introduced the Happy Meal.

    Sometime after that, it was decided that the Bible teaches that human life begins at conception.
    Ask any American evangelical, today, what the Bible says about abortion and they will insist that this is what it says. (Many don’t actually believe this, but they know it is the only answer that won’t get them in trouble.) They’ll be a little fuzzy on where, exactly, the Bible says this, but they’ll insist that it does.
    That’s new. If you had asked American evangelicals that same question the year I was born you would not have gotten the same answer.
    That year, Christianity Today — edited by Harold Lindsell, champion of “inerrancy” and author of The Battle for the Bible — published a special issue devoted to the topics of contraception and abortion. That issue included many articles that today would get their authors, editors — probably even their readers — fired from almost any evangelical institution. For example, one article by a professor from Dallas Theological Seminary criticized the Roman Catholic position on abortion as unbiblical. Jonathan Dudley quotes from the article in his book Broken Words: The Abuse of Science and Faith in American Politics. Keep in mind that this is from a conservative evangelical seminary professor, writing in Billy Graham’s magazine for editor Harold Lindsell:
    God does not regard the fetus as a soul, no matter how far gestation has progressed. The Law plainly exacts: “If a man kills any human life he will be put to death” (Lev. 24:17). But according to Exodus 21:22-24, the destruction of the fetus is not a capital offense. … Clearly, then, in contrast to the mother, the fetus is not reckoned as a soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    All that needs to be said about these people.
    Funny thing is, there are so many old people in dialysis on medicare/medicaid that get super pissed when you reminding them that those programs are paying for their life saving treatment is socialism. Doesn't help when you call them hypocritical for accepting scales when crying about how bad it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I will never understand why conservatives hate sick people so much.
    There's a joke I read ages ago: a Republican is a Democrat who got mugged. It might have been Doonesbury, or Dave Barry, but it was like late 80's or something and hell if I can find it.

    I feel something similar applies here. A Democrat is a Republican who got sick.

    A Republican doesn't hate sick people. A Republican hates sick people taking their money. When their insurance drops them for costing too much -- that's illegal under ACA but Trump made exceptions, so here we are -- they can hold a spaghetti dinner at the local church, they can go bankrupt, or they can hope that the government will keep them alive.

    Now, I'm sure there are plenty of Republicans out there who go to those spaghetti dinners. I guess the question they should be asking is, if they're willing to spend their own money to help sick people, why not form some kind of collective to let that happen all the time, without the need for specific spaghetti dinners? Why not just have a giant spaghetti dinner going all the time, so nobody has to worry about getting sick? And when they ask that question, I'll say "See Option Three and pass the garlic bread."

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    You know it's easy to be a liberal when you live in the city where there's a lot of hand holding and leftists bend over backwards to suck each other's cocks.

    But it's hard to be a liberal in a small town, in rural county, in a red-state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaexion Ramza Beoulve View Post
    You know it's easy to be a liberal when you live in the city where there's a lot of hand holding and leftists bend over backwards to suck each other's cocks.

    But it's hard to be a liberal in a small town, in rural county, in a red-state.
    Why do you think small towns are dying off?
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    This is how I always imagined rural voters.

    Our schools are collapsing, our hospitals are gone, we have no jobs, no labor protections, we are getting cancer, the opioid crisis is run amok, have no internet and the infrastructure is falling apart, but "Tis' is but a flesh wound! Let me vote for a Republican, I'm sure there's something left they can fuck up!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaexion Ramza Beoulve View Post
    You know it's easy to be a liberal when you live in the city where there's a lot of hand holding and leftists bend over backwards to suck each other's cocks.
    So you are saying that the act of helping your neighbors out is homosexual?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaexion Ramza Beoulve View Post
    But it's hard to be a liberal in a small town, in rural county, in a red-state.
    Obviously. It's hard to help people who not just not want your help, but spit in your face when you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    Here's the funny part: those voters will still vote Republican come the next major election.

    There's nothing anyone can do to save these idiots from themselves, just quarantine them off and let them earn Darwin awards for the sake of the rest of civilization.
    You can't vote republican when you're dead. We seem to be increasingly headed in that direction as this gets more insane.

    Maybe they'll go back to the tried and true method of having a metric f-ton of kids and hoping at least a couple of them survive to adulthood.

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